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Re: The All-Purpose No Bullshit Tolerating Who Should Be the Next Manager Thread
« Reply #435 on: November 08, 2013, 09:14:49 AM »
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Re: The All-Purpose No Bullshit Tolerating Who Should Be the Next Manager Thread
« Reply #436 on: November 08, 2013, 04:09:12 PM »

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Switching to this thread for Maddon talk.  Really hoping this isn't a mere formality before he joins the Dodgers.  Maddon was the runner-up when Theo hired Francona in Boston, so I guess it's possible.
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DPD.  I'd tell him to name his price if I were Theo.  There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there.  Here's this, for what it's worth:

Quote from: Buster Olney @Buster_ESPNMy guess on Joe Maddon: He eventually winds up with the Cubs.
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
DPD.  I'd tell him to name his price if I were Theo.  There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there.  Here's this, for what it's worth:

Quote from: Buster Olney @Buster_ESPNMy guess on Joe Maddon: He eventually winds up with the Cubs.

TPD because I'm a Maddon geek. 

Quote from: Ken Rosenthal @Ken_RosenthalSource: Maddon NOT heading to #Dodgers.
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This right here is the acid test of Jepstink's commitment.

While Renteria became a much more conservative manager once Alacantra/Baez/Soler showed up, hiring Maddon and kicking Ricky upstairs would be a pretty large-scale improvement. It would also send a message that no matter who you are, if they can upgrade they're going to.

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Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there. 

I'm not even sure he's that much of a difference-maker. Maybe a game or two over the course of a season, but every study has shown a manager's impact is negligible.

Not saying I wouldn't be a little excited if they got him (mostly because it'd be a pretty clear signal they want to win now), but I don't think there'd be a significant tangible difference over Renteria.

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Quote from: Eli on October 24, 2014, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there. 

I'm not even sure he's that much of a difference-maker. Maybe a game or two over the course of a season, but every study has shown a manager's impact is negligible.

Not saying I wouldn't be a little excited if they got him (mostly because it'd be a pretty clear signal they want to win now), but I don't think there'd be a significant tangible difference over Renteria.


I think in the postseason the manager makes a much bigger impact.

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Quote from: Fork on October 24, 2014, 01:55:17 PM
This right here is the acid test of Jepstink's commitment.

While Renteria became a much more conservative manager once Alacantra/Baez/Soler showed up, hiring Maddon and kicking Ricky upstairs would be a pretty large-scale improvement. It would also send a message that no matter who you are, if they can upgrade they're going to.

Ricketts' commitment moreso than JepStink. They may want him but may need Tom's okay to can Ricky.

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Quote from: Eli on October 24, 2014, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there. 

I'm not even sure he's that much of a difference-maker. Maybe a game or two over the course of a season, but every study has shown a manager's impact is negligible.

Not saying I wouldn't be a little excited if they got him (mostly because it'd be a pretty clear signal they want to win now), but I don't think there'd be a significant tangible difference over Renteria.


Ok.
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 02:17:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 24, 2014, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there. 

I'm not even sure he's that much of a difference-maker. Maybe a game or two over the course of a season, but every study has shown a manager's impact is negligible.

Not saying I wouldn't be a little excited if they got him (mostly because it'd be a pretty clear signal they want to win now), but I don't think there'd be a significant tangible difference over Renteria.


Ok.

Did you have anything else to add?

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Quote from: BH on October 24, 2014, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 24, 2014, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there. 

I'm not even sure he's that much of a difference-maker. Maybe a game or two over the course of a season, but every study has shown a manager's impact is negligible.

Not saying I wouldn't be a little excited if they got him (mostly because it'd be a pretty clear signal they want to win now), but I don't think there'd be a significant tangible difference over Renteria.


I think in the postseason the manager makes a much bigger impact.

Just look at World Series Manager Butchie Yost.
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Quote from: BH on October 24, 2014, 02:07:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 24, 2014, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there. 

I'm not even sure he's that much of a difference-maker. Maybe a game or two over the course of a season, but every study has shown a manager's impact is negligible.

Not saying I wouldn't be a little excited if they got him (mostly because it'd be a pretty clear signal they want to win now), but I don't think there'd be a significant tangible difference over Renteria.


I think in the postseason the manager makes a much bigger impact.

What BH said. Also if you think Maddon is even SLIGHTLY better than Renteria, you should be in favor of this move. Every advantage counts and it's not my money.

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Quote from: R-V on October 24, 2014, 02:31:22 PM
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there. 

I'm not even sure he's that much of a difference-maker. Maybe a game or two over the course of a season, but every study has shown a manager's impact is negligible.

Not saying I wouldn't be a little excited if they got him (mostly because it'd be a pretty clear signal they want to win now), but I don't think there'd be a significant tangible difference over Renteria.


I think in the postseason the manager makes a much bigger impact.

What BH said. Also if you think Maddon is even SLIGHTLY better than Renteria, you should be in favor of this move. Every advantage counts and it's not my money.

No, but it's Ricketts' money and he has a limited amount to spend on the team.

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Quote from: Eli on October 24, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 02:17:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 24, 2014, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 24, 2014, 12:47:33 PM
There aren't many difference makers you can put in that chair, but Maddon is one of the maybe two or three out there. 

I'm not even sure he's that much of a difference-maker. Maybe a game or two over the course of a season, but every study has shown a manager's impact is negligible.

Not saying I wouldn't be a little excited if they got him (mostly because it'd be a pretty clear signal they want to win now), but I don't think there'd be a significant tangible difference over Renteria.


Ok.

Did you have anything else to add?

I figured I'd follow your lead.
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