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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #135 on: September 12, 2010, 11:28:01 PM »
Alright. I went back on the DVR and watched every single dropback that Jay Cutler had in order to count how many times he was pressured. Now, by my calculation we're looking at

44 Dropbacks
35 actual pass attempts
13 overall pressures
5 scrambles
4 sacks.

Now 13 of 44 is about 30% of the time. That's not great, however, my definition of a pressure isn't very stringent. I don't have the exact number, but Cutler completed well over 50% of his passes actually while "pressured", and I didn't count screen passes as "pressures" because they're designed for the defense to overpursue. So many of those weren't really legit pressures. I'd say he was actually in trouble a grand total of 6 times. 2 of the sacks were coverages sacks where he had at least 3 seconds to find an open receiver and didn't, and he failed to throw the ball away. 2 of them he had no chance, so that's on the line. Of the 5 scrambles, 3 were to avoid pressure. On 2 of them he didn't even tuck the ball and run for at least 4 seconds after the snap and only because no one was open. He managed to run out of bounds on several of those, all told he was hit less than 10 times. Meanwhile, he had enough time to throw for almost 400 yards. I think just looking at the sack total doesn't tell the whole picture. This is a vast improvement from last year, when he was pressured nearly 40% of the time and far less effective under that pressure (51.9 rating). Now, we'll see if this holds up against teams that are better than the Lions, but I'd have to say that the offensive line's pass blocking was actually decent. Their run blocking is a different story, however.
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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #136 on: September 13, 2010, 01:14:04 AM »
You know who the only announcer I hate worse than Franchester Brennaman is? His piece of shit son T-hom. Seriously, Stevie Wonder could've done better play-by-play.

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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #137 on: September 13, 2010, 06:56:39 AM »
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Alright. I went back on the DVR and watched every single dropback that Jay Cutler had in order to count how many times he was pressured. Now, by my calculation we're looking at

44 Dropbacks
35 actual pass attempts
13 overall pressures
5 scrambles
4 sacks.

Now 13 of 44 is about 30% of the time. That's not great, however, my definition of a pressure isn't very stringent. I don't have the exact number, but Cutler completed well over 50% of his passes actually while "pressured", and I didn't count screen passes as "pressures" because they're designed for the defense to overpursue. So many of those weren't really legit pressures. I'd say he was actually in trouble a grand total of 6 times. 2 of the sacks were coverages sacks where he had at least 3 seconds to find an open receiver and didn't, and he failed to throw the ball away. 2 of them he had no chance, so that's on the line. Of the 5 scrambles, 3 were to avoid pressure. On 2 of them he didn't even tuck the ball and run for at least 4 seconds after the snap and only because no one was open. He managed to run out of bounds on several of those, all told he was hit less than 10 times. Meanwhile, he had enough time to throw for almost 400 yards. I think just looking at the sack total doesn't tell the whole picture. This is a vast improvement from last year, when he was pressured nearly 40% of the time and far less effective under that pressure (51.9 rating). Now, we'll see if this holds up against teams that are better than the Lions, but I'd have to say that the offensive line's pass blocking was actually decent. Their run blocking is a different story, however.

Nice work, and good points. So did you enjoy re-watching the play where Martz went max-protect (sending only two receivers out on routes) and Omiyale still gave up a sack? Or the play where Omiyale knocked his guy on his ass, then decided his work was done, and stood and watched his guy get up and sack Cutler?

You've made me feel much better about this O-line. But since you're providing so much positive I'm going to cherry pick a couple plays to remind us that Omiyale still sucks Huey's next fistula.

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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #138 on: September 13, 2010, 07:08:58 AM »
Quote from: R-V on September 13, 2010, 06:56:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Alright. I went back on the DVR and watched every single dropback that Jay Cutler had in order to count how many times he was pressured. Now, by my calculation we're looking at

44 Dropbacks
35 actual pass attempts
13 overall pressures
5 scrambles
4 sacks.

Now 13 of 44 is about 30% of the time. That's not great, however, my definition of a pressure isn't very stringent. I don't have the exact number, but Cutler completed well over 50% of his passes actually while "pressured", and I didn't count screen passes as "pressures" because they're designed for the defense to overpursue. So many of those weren't really legit pressures. I'd say he was actually in trouble a grand total of 6 times. 2 of the sacks were coverages sacks where he had at least 3 seconds to find an open receiver and didn't, and he failed to throw the ball away. 2 of them he had no chance, so that's on the line. Of the 5 scrambles, 3 were to avoid pressure. On 2 of them he didn't even tuck the ball and run for at least 4 seconds after the snap and only because no one was open. He managed to run out of bounds on several of those, all told he was hit less than 10 times. Meanwhile, he had enough time to throw for almost 400 yards. I think just looking at the sack total doesn't tell the whole picture. This is a vast improvement from last year, when he was pressured nearly 40% of the time and far less effective under that pressure (51.9 rating). Now, we'll see if this holds up against teams that are better than the Lions, but I'd have to say that the offensive line's pass blocking was actually decent. Their run blocking is a different story, however.

Nice work, and good points. So did you enjoy re-watching the play where Martz went max-protect (sending only two receivers out on routes) and Omiyale still gave up a sack? Or the play where Omiyale knocked his guy on his ass, then decided his work was done, and stood and watched his guy get up and sack Cutler?

You've made me feel much better about this O-line. But since you're providing so much positive I'm going to cherry pick a couple plays to remind us that Omiyale still sucks Huey's next fistula.

One thing I'm glad to see is at least Martz is paying attention to what's going on in the game and making adjustments. He see a O-line playing poorly he adjusts to help protect Cutler. As opposed to that moran Turner who would keep having Jay take 5-7 steps drops over and over again behind a leaky O-line.

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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #139 on: September 13, 2010, 07:15:13 AM »
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Alright. I went back on the DVR and watched every single dropback that Jay Cutler had in order to count how many times he was pressured. Now, by my calculation we're looking at

44 Dropbacks
35 actual pass attempts
13 overall pressures
5 scrambles
4 sacks.

Now 13 of 44 is about 30% of the time. That's not great, however, my definition of a pressure isn't very stringent. I don't have the exact number, but Cutler completed well over 50% of his passes actually while "pressured", and I didn't count screen passes as "pressures" because they're designed for the defense to overpursue. So many of those weren't really legit pressures. I'd say he was actually in trouble a grand total of 6 times. 2 of the sacks were coverages sacks where he had at least 3 seconds to find an open receiver and didn't, and he failed to throw the ball away. 2 of them he had no chance, so that's on the line. Of the 5 scrambles, 3 were to avoid pressure. On 2 of them he didn't even tuck the ball and run for at least 4 seconds after the snap and only because no one was open. He managed to run out of bounds on several of those, all told he was hit less than 10 times. Meanwhile, he had enough time to throw for almost 400 yards. I think just looking at the sack total doesn't tell the whole picture. This is a vast improvement from last year, when he was pressured nearly 40% of the time and far less effective under that pressure (51.9 rating). Now, we'll see if this holds up against teams that are better than the Lions, but I'd have to say that the offensive line's pass blocking was actually decent. Their run blocking is a different story, however.

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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #140 on: September 13, 2010, 07:48:54 AM »
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Alright. I went back on the DVR and watched every single dropback that Jay Cutler had in order to count how many times he was pressured. Now, by my calculation we're looking at

44 Dropbacks
35 actual pass attempts
13 overall pressures
5 scrambles
4 sacks.

Now 13 of 44 is about 30% of the time. That's not great, however, my definition of a pressure isn't very stringent. I don't have the exact number, but Cutler completed well over 50% of his passes actually while "pressured", and I didn't count screen passes as "pressures" because they're designed for the defense to overpursue. So many of those weren't really legit pressures. I'd say he was actually in trouble a grand total of 6 times. 2 of the sacks were coverages sacks where he had at least 3 seconds to find an open receiver and didn't, and he failed to throw the ball away. 2 of them he had no chance, so that's on the line. Of the 5 scrambles, 3 were to avoid pressure. On 2 of them he didn't even tuck the ball and run for at least 4 seconds after the snap and only because no one was open. He managed to run out of bounds on several of those, all told he was hit less than 10 times. Meanwhile, he had enough time to throw for almost 400 yards. I think just looking at the sack total doesn't tell the whole picture. This is a vast improvement from last year, when he was pressured nearly 40% of the time and far less effective under that pressure (51.9 rating). Now, we'll see if this holds up against teams that are better than the Lions, but I'd have to say that the offensive line's pass blocking was actually decent. Their run blocking is a different story, however.

Thanks for this. But please add in the penalties/yards the line was responsible for. That matters to me. And to America.
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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #141 on: September 13, 2010, 08:07:18 AM »
Quote from: R-V on September 13, 2010, 06:56:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Alright. I went back on the DVR and watched every single dropback that Jay Cutler had in order to count how many times he was pressured. Now, by my calculation we're looking at

44 Dropbacks
35 actual pass attempts
13 overall pressures
5 scrambles
4 sacks.

Now 13 of 44 is about 30% of the time. That's not great, however, my definition of a pressure isn't very stringent. I don't have the exact number, but Cutler completed well over 50% of his passes actually while "pressured", and I didn't count screen passes as "pressures" because they're designed for the defense to overpursue. So many of those weren't really legit pressures. I'd say he was actually in trouble a grand total of 6 times. 2 of the sacks were coverages sacks where he had at least 3 seconds to find an open receiver and didn't, and he failed to throw the ball away. 2 of them he had no chance, so that's on the line. Of the 5 scrambles, 3 were to avoid pressure. On 2 of them he didn't even tuck the ball and run for at least 4 seconds after the snap and only because no one was open. He managed to run out of bounds on several of those, all told he was hit less than 10 times. Meanwhile, he had enough time to throw for almost 400 yards. I think just looking at the sack total doesn't tell the whole picture. This is a vast improvement from last year, when he was pressured nearly 40% of the time and far less effective under that pressure (51.9 rating). Now, we'll see if this holds up against teams that are better than the Lions, but I'd have to say that the offensive line's pass blocking was actually decent. Their run blocking is a different story, however.

Nice work, and good points. So did you enjoy re-watching the play where Martz went max-protect (sending only two receivers out on routes) and Omiyale still gave up a sack? Or the play where Omiyale knocked his guy on his ass, then decided his work was done, and stood and watched his guy get up and sack Cutler?

You've made me feel much better about this O-line. But since you're providing so much positive I'm going to cherry pick a couple plays to remind us that Omiyale still sucks Huey's next fistula.

Yeah, he easily stood out as the worst offender. Chris Williams played surprisingly well. Garza was actually pretty disappointing, especially in the run game. Lance Louis of all people had perhaps the best game.
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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #142 on: September 13, 2010, 08:17:03 AM »
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2010, 08:07:18 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 13, 2010, 06:56:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Alright. I went back on the DVR and watched every single dropback that Jay Cutler had in order to count how many times he was pressured. Now, by my calculation we're looking at

44 Dropbacks
35 actual pass attempts
13 overall pressures
5 scrambles
4 sacks.

Now 13 of 44 is about 30% of the time. That's not great, however, my definition of a pressure isn't very stringent. I don't have the exact number, but Cutler completed well over 50% of his passes actually while "pressured", and I didn't count screen passes as "pressures" because they're designed for the defense to overpursue. So many of those weren't really legit pressures. I'd say he was actually in trouble a grand total of 6 times. 2 of the sacks were coverages sacks where he had at least 3 seconds to find an open receiver and didn't, and he failed to throw the ball away. 2 of them he had no chance, so that's on the line. Of the 5 scrambles, 3 were to avoid pressure. On 2 of them he didn't even tuck the ball and run for at least 4 seconds after the snap and only because no one was open. He managed to run out of bounds on several of those, all told he was hit less than 10 times. Meanwhile, he had enough time to throw for almost 400 yards. I think just looking at the sack total doesn't tell the whole picture. This is a vast improvement from last year, when he was pressured nearly 40% of the time and far less effective under that pressure (51.9 rating). Now, we'll see if this holds up against teams that are better than the Lions, but I'd have to say that the offensive line's pass blocking was actually decent. Their run blocking is a different story, however.

Nice work, and good points. So did you enjoy re-watching the play where Martz went max-protect (sending only two receivers out on routes) and Omiyale still gave up a sack? Or the play where Omiyale knocked his guy on his ass, then decided his work was done, and stood and watched his guy get up and sack Cutler?

You've made me feel much better about this O-line. But since you're providing so much positive I'm going to cherry pick a couple plays to remind us that Omiyale still sucks Huey's next fistula.

Yeah, he easily stood out as the worst offender. Chris Williams played surprisingly well. Garza was actually pretty disappointing, especially in the run game. Lance Louis of all people had perhaps the best game.

I thought Louis had a pretty good preseason and was encouraged about him going into the first game.

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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #143 on: September 13, 2010, 08:24:03 AM »
Bears looked pretty good yesterday. What's everyone else think?

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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #144 on: September 13, 2010, 08:48:19 AM »
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 13, 2010, 08:17:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2010, 08:07:18 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 13, 2010, 06:56:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Alright. I went back on the DVR and watched every single dropback that Jay Cutler had in order to count how many times he was pressured. Now, by my calculation we're looking at

44 Dropbacks
35 actual pass attempts
13 overall pressures
5 scrambles
4 sacks.

Now 13 of 44 is about 30% of the time. That's not great, however, my definition of a pressure isn't very stringent. I don't have the exact number, but Cutler completed well over 50% of his passes actually while "pressured", and I didn't count screen passes as "pressures" because they're designed for the defense to overpursue. So many of those weren't really legit pressures. I'd say he was actually in trouble a grand total of 6 times. 2 of the sacks were coverages sacks where he had at least 3 seconds to find an open receiver and didn't, and he failed to throw the ball away. 2 of them he had no chance, so that's on the line. Of the 5 scrambles, 3 were to avoid pressure. On 2 of them he didn't even tuck the ball and run for at least 4 seconds after the snap and only because no one was open. He managed to run out of bounds on several of those, all told he was hit less than 10 times. Meanwhile, he had enough time to throw for almost 400 yards. I think just looking at the sack total doesn't tell the whole picture. This is a vast improvement from last year, when he was pressured nearly 40% of the time and far less effective under that pressure (51.9 rating). Now, we'll see if this holds up against teams that are better than the Lions, but I'd have to say that the offensive line's pass blocking was actually decent. Their run blocking is a different story, however.

Nice work, and good points. So did you enjoy re-watching the play where Martz went max-protect (sending only two receivers out on routes) and Omiyale still gave up a sack? Or the play where Omiyale knocked his guy on his ass, then decided his work was done, and stood and watched his guy get up and sack Cutler?

You've made me feel much better about this O-line. But since you're providing so much positive I'm going to cherry pick a couple plays to remind us that Omiyale still sucks Huey's next fistula.

Yeah, he easily stood out as the worst offender. Chris Williams played surprisingly well. Garza was actually pretty disappointing, especially in the run game. Lance Louis of all people had perhaps the best game.

I thought Louis had a pretty good preseason and was encouraged about him going into the first game.

I heard somewhere that Lance Louis was a Tight End in 2008.  What the...?  If that's true, is that some sort of record for eating yourself into a Guard in 2 years?
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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #145 on: September 13, 2010, 08:50:44 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on September 13, 2010, 08:48:19 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 13, 2010, 08:17:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2010, 08:07:18 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 13, 2010, 06:56:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Alright. I went back on the DVR and watched every single dropback that Jay Cutler had in order to count how many times he was pressured. Now, by my calculation we're looking at

44 Dropbacks
35 actual pass attempts
13 overall pressures
5 scrambles
4 sacks.

Now 13 of 44 is about 30% of the time. That's not great, however, my definition of a pressure isn't very stringent. I don't have the exact number, but Cutler completed well over 50% of his passes actually while "pressured", and I didn't count screen passes as "pressures" because they're designed for the defense to overpursue. So many of those weren't really legit pressures. I'd say he was actually in trouble a grand total of 6 times. 2 of the sacks were coverages sacks where he had at least 3 seconds to find an open receiver and didn't, and he failed to throw the ball away. 2 of them he had no chance, so that's on the line. Of the 5 scrambles, 3 were to avoid pressure. On 2 of them he didn't even tuck the ball and run for at least 4 seconds after the snap and only because no one was open. He managed to run out of bounds on several of those, all told he was hit less than 10 times. Meanwhile, he had enough time to throw for almost 400 yards. I think just looking at the sack total doesn't tell the whole picture. This is a vast improvement from last year, when he was pressured nearly 40% of the time and far less effective under that pressure (51.9 rating). Now, we'll see if this holds up against teams that are better than the Lions, but I'd have to say that the offensive line's pass blocking was actually decent. Their run blocking is a different story, however.

Nice work, and good points. So did you enjoy re-watching the play where Martz went max-protect (sending only two receivers out on routes) and Omiyale still gave up a sack? Or the play where Omiyale knocked his guy on his ass, then decided his work was done, and stood and watched his guy get up and sack Cutler?

You've made me feel much better about this O-line. But since you're providing so much positive I'm going to cherry pick a couple plays to remind us that Omiyale still sucks Huey's next fistula.

Yeah, he easily stood out as the worst offender. Chris Williams played surprisingly well. Garza was actually pretty disappointing, especially in the run game. Lance Louis of all people had perhaps the best game.

I thought Louis had a pretty good preseason and was encouraged about him going into the first game.

I heard somewhere that Lance Louis was a Tight End in 2008.  What the...?  If that's true, is that some sort of record for eating yourself into a Guard in 2?

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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #146 on: September 13, 2010, 08:58:26 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on September 13, 2010, 08:48:19 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on September 13, 2010, 08:17:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 13, 2010, 08:07:18 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 13, 2010, 06:56:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2010, 11:28:01 PM
Alright. I went back on the DVR and watched every single dropback that Jay Cutler had in order to count how many times he was pressured. Now, by my calculation we're looking at

44 Dropbacks
35 actual pass attempts
13 overall pressures
5 scrambles
4 sacks.

Now 13 of 44 is about 30% of the time. That's not great, however, my definition of a pressure isn't very stringent. I don't have the exact number, but Cutler completed well over 50% of his passes actually while "pressured", and I didn't count screen passes as "pressures" because they're designed for the defense to overpursue. So many of those weren't really legit pressures. I'd say he was actually in trouble a grand total of 6 times. 2 of the sacks were coverages sacks where he had at least 3 seconds to find an open receiver and didn't, and he failed to throw the ball away. 2 of them he had no chance, so that's on the line. Of the 5 scrambles, 3 were to avoid pressure. On 2 of them he didn't even tuck the ball and run for at least 4 seconds after the snap and only because no one was open. He managed to run out of bounds on several of those, all told he was hit less than 10 times. Meanwhile, he had enough time to throw for almost 400 yards. I think just looking at the sack total doesn't tell the whole picture. This is a vast improvement from last year, when he was pressured nearly 40% of the time and far less effective under that pressure (51.9 rating). Now, we'll see if this holds up against teams that are better than the Lions, but I'd have to say that the offensive line's pass blocking was actually decent. Their run blocking is a different story, however.

Nice work, and good points. So did you enjoy re-watching the play where Martz went max-protect (sending only two receivers out on routes) and Omiyale still gave up a sack? Or the play where Omiyale knocked his guy on his ass, then decided his work was done, and stood and watched his guy get up and sack Cutler?

You've made me feel much better about this O-line. But since you're providing so much positive I'm going to cherry pick a couple plays to remind us that Omiyale still sucks Huey's next fistula.

Yeah, he easily stood out as the worst offender. Chris Williams played surprisingly well. Garza was actually pretty disappointing, especially in the run game. Lance Louis of all people had perhaps the best game.

I thought Louis had a pretty good preseason and was encouraged about him going into the first game.

I heard somewhere that Lance Louis was a Tight End in 2008.  What the...?  If that's true, is that some sort of record for eating yourself into a Guard in 2?

No. It was confusing. He was a guard in college but then was moved to tight end at the combine because he's athletic and they thought he projected better as a Manumaleuna-type big ass tight end. The Bears still liked him as a guard so they took him and told him to put on some weight.

Revised: Actually, upon further review, Louis was a tight end for two years in college but finished as a guard after he injured his knee and lost some of his speed. Then at the combine they listed him as a tight end again.
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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #147 on: September 13, 2010, 09:38:41 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 08:24:03 AM
Bears looked pretty good yesterday. What's everyone else think?

I think that they were playing the Lions.
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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #148 on: September 13, 2010, 09:43:38 AM »
Quote from: CBStew on September 13, 2010, 09:38:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 08:24:03 AM
Bears looked pretty good yesterday. What's everyone else think?

I think that they were playing the Lions.

I didn't see them playing the Lions. I think your age is catching up with you, sir.

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Re: Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010
« Reply #149 on: September 13, 2010, 09:44:11 AM »
Quote from: CBStew on September 13, 2010, 09:38:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 08:24:03 AM
Bears looked pretty good yesterday. What's everyone else think?

I think that they were playing the Lions.

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