Bears vs. Lions Paulcast - Sunday September 12th, 2010

[Yeti]

Maybe it wasn't meatballness, but statfaggery that led to the decision to go for it on fourth down.

I'm not going to argue this. I had actually forgotten about this study, which came to light to me after hearing about this coach's tendency to never kick. If any argument is to be made is that this was maybe one of the times you should kick, to ensure you got the lead, but I rest my point. I feel beaten... by statfaggotry... Fuck

Eh. I still think that stat ignores that football doesn't exist in a void. The Lions had been stuffing the Bears in short yardage pretty effectively all day. You have to take that in consideration. Maybe it wasn't a bad idea to go for it on 4th down, but the play they used was awful, awful. Also, TRY THE FUCKING SNEAK.

Yea. That was what I thought they should have done in the first place*. Also, in regards to that story in SI. One thing I just remembered is that it's high school football. There is big differences in the kickers at that level and the NFL level. The yardage discrepancies may overcome the odds. I would think you'd need to have a pretty good team to do it too.


*thinking of the sneak, reminds me of a story from high school. Our freshman year, we were playing a game against a school that had a good freshman team and they were about 2x the size of our school, so they had 20 kids in the school. We used to run "QB sneak on the nudge" which was just a silent count, blocking was minimal from the line because he was past us within a yard or two. Late in the first half against them, it was 4th and 20. Our coach called that play, and our QB ran it in for a score from 45 yards out. I know the younger you are the more a stud athlete can dominate another team, but still, that play was nothing short of remarkable.

That's a terrible David Foster Wallace impersonation.

He forgot the part about his dad coming down to the basement while Yeti was watching TV and inexplicably exposing his genitals to him.

Also, it needed to be about 957 pages longer.

I think we can all agree that no Yeti post has ever needed to be longer.

I think it's clear I didn't think this through.

I had that one post that one time that was good.

[Internet Apex]

Maybe it wasn't meatballness, but statfaggery that led to the decision to go for it on fourth down.

I'm not going to argue this. I had actually forgotten about this study, which came to light to me after hearing about this coach's tendency to never kick. If any argument is to be made is that this was maybe one of the times you should kick, to ensure you got the lead, but I rest my point. I feel beaten... by statfaggotry... Fuck

Eh. I still think that stat ignores that football doesn't exist in a void. The Lions had been stuffing the Bears in short yardage pretty effectively all day. You have to take that in consideration. Maybe it wasn't a bad idea to go for it on 4th down, but the play they used was awful, awful. Also, TRY THE FUCKING SNEAK.

Yea. That was what I thought they should have done in the first place*. Also, in regards to that story in SI. One thing I just remembered is that it's high school football. There is big differences in the kickers at that level and the NFL level. The yardage discrepancies may overcome the odds. I would think you'd need to have a pretty good team to do it too.


*thinking of the sneak, reminds me of a story from high school. Our freshman year, we were playing a game against a school that had a good freshman team and they were about 2x the size of our school, so they had 20 kids in the school. We used to run "QB sneak on the nudge" which was just a silent count, blocking was minimal from the line because he was past us within a yard or two. Late in the first half against them, it was 4th and 20. Our coach called that play, and our QB ran it in for a score from 45 yards out. I know the younger you are the more a stud athlete can dominate another team, but still, that play was nothing short of remarkable.

That's a terrible David Foster Wallace impersonation.

He forgot the part about his dad coming down to the basement while Yeti was watching TV and inexplicably exposing his genitals to him.

Also, it needed to be about 957 pages longer.

I think we can all agree that no Yeti post has ever needed to be longer.

I think it's clear I didn't think this through.

I had that one post that one time that was good.

Parts anyway.

[Brownie]

Larry Panozzo Mayer of the Bears and his eyebrows explain how the Calvin Johnson rule has screwed the Bears before and how we were told by the rest of the NFL world to shut up and drink our beer and watch football. After seeing the fake punt play, which I remember clearly, the rule actually makes sense to me, even if it means Detroit's economy will be devastated for years.

[CBStew]

Out of sadistic curiosity I lurked at a Lion's site.  They overwhelmingly prevailing opinion is that the officials were paid off.  If they were, it must have been by the ghost of Arnold Rothstein, since nobody in the Bears' organization has it together enough to know how to do anything like that.

[SKO]

Hunter Hillenmeyer out for the year. Sorry, DadPex.

[Brownie]

Hunter Hillenmeyer out for the year. Sorry, DadPex.

Mrs. T.J. has lost interest in the Bears.

Seriously, I'm concerned what his illness is. Should James Caan gear up to play Rod Marinelli and Billy Dee Williams to play Lovie Smith in the sequel to Brian's Song starring Helen Hunt as the white player from a southern academic school somehow sticking on the Bears' roster yet getting overshadowed by his faster, blue chip counterpart who plays the same position. Of course the white player from the southern academic school will somehow convert to a position where his lack of speed isn't exposed and make the starting lineup for a couple years of glory with his teammate and pal who is a future Hall of Famer. There will be scenes with them eating dinner out and running in the park and working out in the basement and laughing about race (which will be weird because said teammate is also white). Of course we'll have the devastating season-ending injury for the blue-chip player so our white player from a southern academic school will get a full season in the sun as the starter at his old position. Our star player will be sullen and moody and introverted. But then the white player from a southern academic school will work with his buddy and rehab him and get him back healthy so the two are playing side by side again in what promises to be a breakout season for the Bears when a mysterious illness lurks...

[SKO]

Hunter Hillenmeyer out for the year. Sorry, DadPex.

Mrs. T.J. has lost interest in the Bears.

Seriously, I'm concerned what his illness is. Should James Caan gear up to play Rod Marinelli and Billy Dee Williams to play Lovie Smith in the sequel to Brian's Song starring Helen Hunt as the white player from a southern academic school somehow sticking on the Bears' roster yet getting overshadowed by his faster, blue chip counterpart who plays the same position. Of course the white player from the southern academic school will somehow convert to a position where his lack of speed isn't exposed and make the starting lineup for a couple years of glory with his teammate and pal who is a future Hall of Famer. There will be scenes with them eating dinner out and running in the park and working out in the basement and laughing about race (which will be weird because said teammate is also white). Of course we'll have the devastating season-ending injury for the blue-chip player so our white player from a southern academic school will get a full season in the sun as the starter at his old position. Our star player will be sullen and moody and introverted. But then the white player from a southern academic school will work with his buddy and rehab him and get him back healthy so the two are playing side by side again in what promises to be a breakout season for the Bears when a mysterious illness lurks...

Looks like a severe case of post concussion syndrome. That's tough. Good luck, Hunter.

[Indolent Reader]

Alas, no more Helen Huntermeyer references.  Alas.

[Internet Apex]

Alas, no more Helen Huntermeyer references.  Alas.

Why not? Over the line? But seriously, that development makes the team slightly less-shitty following a game in which they didn't suck as bad as we feared. Now if something terrible can just happen to Craig Steltz, I'd say, "SUPA BEARS, SUPA BOWE! SUPA BEARS, SUPA BOWE!"

[Indolent Reader]

Alas, no more Helen Huntermeyer references.  Alas.

Why not? Over the line? But seriously, that development makes the team slightly less-shitty following a game in which they didn't suck as bad as we feared. Now if something terrible can just happen to Craig Steltz, I'd say, "SUPA BEARS, SUPA BOWE! SUPA BEARS, SUPA BOWE!"

I don't think that's over the line at all - I just figured he was going to retire and head up to the broadcast booth.

[Indolent Reader]

DPD. 

Bernstein is calling labor conspiracy (apparently HH did not want to be put on IR).

[CBStew]

Hunter Hillenmeyer out for the year. Sorry, DadPex.

Mrs. T.J. has lost interest in the Bears.

Seriously, I'm concerned what his illness is. Should James Caan gear up to play Rod Marinelli and Billy Dee Williams to play Lovie Smith in the sequel to Brian's Song starring Helen Hunt as the white player from a southern academic school somehow sticking on the Bears' roster yet getting overshadowed by his faster, blue chip counterpart who plays the same position. Of course the white player from the southern academic school will somehow convert to a position where his lack of speed isn't exposed and make the starting lineup for a couple years of glory with his teammate and pal who is a future Hall of Famer. There will be scenes with them eating dinner out and running in the park and working out in the basement and laughing about race (which will be weird because said teammate is also white). Of course we'll have the devastating season-ending injury for the blue-chip player so our white player from a southern academic school will get a full season in the sun as the starter at his old position. Our star player will be sullen and moody and introverted. But then the white player from a southern academic school will work with his buddy and rehab him and get him back healthy so the two are playing side by side again in what promises to be a breakout season for the Bears when a mysterious illness lurks...

Implausible.  No one would ever watch that.

[Gilgamesh]

DPD. 

Bernstein is calling labor conspiracy (apparently HH did not want to be put on IR).

I wouldn't put it past the NFL or the Bears, to be perfectly honest.  Employers in this country have a tendency of finding ways of removing prominent union supporters on the eve of labor conflict.  Sure it violates Section 8(a)(3) of the Act, but they do it anyway.

The NFL is really no different.

Stew and I can lead the symposia on these issues.

[SKO]

DPD. 

Bernstein is calling labor conspiracy (apparently HH did not want to be put on IR).

I wouldn't put it past the NFL or the Bears, to be perfectly honest.  Employers in this country have a tendency of finding ways of removing prominent union supporters on the eve of labor conflict.  Sure it violates Section 8(a)(3) of the Act, but they do it anyway.

The NFL is really no different.

Stew and I can lead the symposia on these issues.

Good. That'll learn ol' smart Vandy boy from openin his yap. I like my football players treated like indentured servants. Well, the white ones. I've got a different name for the brown'ns, but I been told that ain't fer polite comp'ny these days.

[SKO]

DPD. 

Bernstein is calling labor conspiracy (apparently HH did not want to be put on IR).

I wouldn't put it past the NFL or the Bears, to be perfectly honest.  Employers in this country have a tendency of finding ways of removing prominent union supporters on the eve of labor conflict.  Sure it violates Section 8(a)(3) of the Act, but they do it anyway.

The NFL is really no different.

Stew and I can lead the symposia on these issues.

DPD. "Adding to the intrigue: Hillenmeyer is one of more than a dozen players who has agreed to donate his brain to a research group determined to studying the effects of head trauma to professional athletes." - http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2010/09/hunter_hillenmeyer_placed_on_i.html. Hmm.