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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #120 on: August 11, 2011, 09:37:44 AM »
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:27:54 AM
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Quote from: BH on August 11, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
And now Know might force a trade because he isn't starting.

I don't now what you're talking about right know.

Apparently Knox is pissed that Roy Williams is currently working at X receiver and that Knox is now #4 on the depth chart because the team is still going to give Hester the opportunity to pan out as a wideout and Earl Bennett is pretty much locked in as the slot/3rd down guy. I think if the sonofabitch can't handle the challenge of beating out Roy Williams he's even softer than I thought. Knox is a talented guy and his speed is an awesome asset, but he had a catch rate of just 52% last year. The X receiver in the Martz offense just gets the most targets (98 for Johnny vs. 72 for Hester and 70 for Bennett), and he didn't cash in anywhere near as many of them as he should. I guarantee you Roy would eclipse Johnny's numbers from last year in the spot. If you want to blame Cutler for Knox's poor catch rate on his targets, okay, but he had by far the lowest rate out of the trio with  Bennett (65.7%) and Hester (55.6%). I certainly wouldn't trade him unless someone is willing to overpay, but the guy's kind of an overrated midget who hasn't done nearly as much as he thinks he has.

I postive the concept of Johnny Knox: 4th Receiver. The idea of Roy Williams as the No. 1, however excites me about as much as Johnny Knox: No. 1 Receiver.
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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #121 on: August 11, 2011, 09:39:47 AM »
Quote from: BH on August 11, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
And now Know might force a trade because he isn't starting.

I think you have to have leverage to force a trade.

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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #122 on: August 11, 2011, 10:11:14 AM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 11, 2011, 09:37:44 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:27:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 11, 2011, 09:16:09 AM
Quote from: BH on August 11, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
And now Know might force a trade because he isn't starting.

I don't now what you're talking about right know.

Apparently Knox is pissed that Roy Williams is currently working at X receiver and that Knox is now #4 on the depth chart because the team is still going to give Hester the opportunity to pan out as a wideout and Earl Bennett is pretty much locked in as the slot/3rd down guy. I think if the sonofabitch can't handle the challenge of beating out Roy Williams he's even softer than I thought. Knox is a talented guy and his speed is an awesome asset, but he had a catch rate of just 52% last year. The X receiver in the Martz offense just gets the most targets (98 for Johnny vs. 72 for Hester and 70 for Bennett), and he didn't cash in anywhere near as many of them as he should. I guarantee you Roy would eclipse Johnny's numbers from last year in the spot. If you want to blame Cutler for Knox's poor catch rate on his targets, okay, but he had by far the lowest rate out of the trio with  Bennett (65.7%) and Hester (55.6%). I certainly wouldn't trade him unless someone is willing to overpay, but the guy's kind of an overrated midget who hasn't done nearly as much as he thinks he has.

I postive the concept of Johnny Knox: 4th Receiver. The idea of Roy Williams as the No. 1, however excites me about as much as Johnny Knox: No. 1 Receiver.

Ehh. Much as I loathe the bastard's personality, there's reason to believe this will work. He was plagued constantly by injuries in 08-09 which contributed to his declining numbers then, and last year he really wasn't bad. He had a pretty high catch rate and was a good downfield threat, but his targets dropped off considerably after Romo went down and Kitna preferred throwing underneath to Dez Bryant. Bryant got a whole lot of attention, but he really wasn't better than Roy since he had 561 yds and 6 TDs on 45 catches (12.5 avg) on 70 targets, while Roy had 37 catches for 530 yds (14.3 YPC) and 5 TDs on 64 targets. It's likely that, had Romo stayed healthy, Roy would have had a much better year, since he was on pace for about 980 yds before Romo's injury. I think if Roy stays healthy he'll get the 70 receptions and the 1000 some yards that Martz projects. I doubt he'll be a 1300 yd receiver like he was in 2006, but I think he'll be an upgrade over what Knox did last year. If Knox actually improves his route-running and doesn't get bumped off easily on every goddamn slant pass he ever runs he may overtake Hester for the Z.
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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #123 on: August 11, 2011, 10:31:37 AM »
TPD...apparently our old friend Biggsy reported the Knox-trade thing and Johnny more or less told Biggsy to stick it up his ass http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101676119446659074 . Biggsy just wants them to trade him so he can continue to give us updates on the asshurt status of former Bears.
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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #124 on: August 11, 2011, 10:49:55 AM »
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 10:31:37 AM
Biggsy just wants them to trade him so they can get back Tim Shaw he can continue to give us updates on the asshurt status of former Bears.

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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #125 on: August 11, 2011, 11:16:08 AM »
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:31:06 AM
Then again: http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101660079568322561

Isn't it ironic that he's vowing to not "give up" when his reputation is that of a wideout who gives up all too easily for jump balls?

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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #126 on: August 11, 2011, 11:30:23 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on August 11, 2011, 11:16:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:31:06 AM
Then again: http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101660079568322561

Isn't it ironic that he's vowing to not "give up" when his reputation is that of a wideout who gives up all too easily for jump balls?

CT?

Knox has had jump balls thrown to him?

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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #127 on: August 11, 2011, 11:34:26 AM »
Quote from: R-V on August 11, 2011, 11:30:23 AM
Quote from: PANK! on August 11, 2011, 11:16:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:31:06 AM
Then again: http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101660079568322561

Isn't it ironic that he's vowing to not "give up" when his reputation is that of a wideout who gives up all too easily for jump balls?

CT?

Knox has had jump balls thrown to him?

We have to wait on CT to give us his thoughts... you jumped the gun a bit.

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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #128 on: August 11, 2011, 11:36:23 AM »
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 10:31:37 AM
TPD...apparently our old friend Biggsy reported the Knox-trade thing and Johnny more or less told Biggsy to stick it up his ass http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101676119446659074 . Biggsy just wants them to trade him so he can continue to give us updates on the asshurt status of former Bears.

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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #129 on: August 11, 2011, 11:51:05 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on August 11, 2011, 11:16:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:31:06 AM
Then again: http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101660079568322561

Isn't it ironic that he's vowing to not "give up" when his reputation is that of a wideout who gives up all too easily for jump balls?

CT?

I'm going to allow this.

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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #130 on: August 11, 2011, 01:34:15 PM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 11, 2011, 09:37:44 AM
I postive the concept of Johnny Knox: 4th Receiver. The idea of Roy Williams as the No. 1, however excites me about as much as Johnny Knox: No. 1 Receiver.

Can I interest you in Johnny Knoxville: No. 1 Receiver?

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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #131 on: August 11, 2011, 02:10:09 PM »
I like when SKO talks about X, Z, and H receivers like he's a coach.
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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #132 on: August 11, 2011, 02:37:18 PM »
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 11, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
I like when SKO talks about X, Z, and H receivers like he's a coach.

Man, it really bothers you that nobody wants your opinion on anything, ever, doesn't it?
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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #133 on: August 11, 2011, 02:56:00 PM »
Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 02:37:18 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 11, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
I like when SKO talks about X, Z, and H receivers like he's a coach.

Man, it really bothers you that nobody wants your opinion on anything, ever, doesn't it?

Are you asking my opinion?
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Re: 2011 - 20?? Bears Offseason(s) Thread
« Reply #134 on: August 11, 2011, 03:20:26 PM »
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 11, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
I like when SKO talks about X, Z, and H receivers like he's a coach.

No one except coaches can use real men's proper footbaw terminology. Tell me more about those runny catchy guys!
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