Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread

[Saul Goodman]

Intrepid Reader: Theo Epstein

Need a closer? Interesting...

Is this supposed to be about Marmol?  Because I read that Theo was taking calls on him, but you may have linked the wrong article.

Yes, I'm saying if Terry Ryan is dumb enough to sign a 37-year-old to play shortstop and give him a multi-year deal to boot, he might be an easy target to overpay for Marmol.

[Internet Apex]

Intrepid Reader: Theo Epstein

Need a closer? Interesting...

Is this supposed to be about Marmol?  Because I read that Theo was taking calls on him, but you may have linked the wrong article.

Yes, I'm saying if Terry Ryan is dumb enough to sign a 37-year-old to play shortstop and give him a multi-year deal to boot, he might be an easy target to overpay for Marmol.

You know what. He just might be.

[Quality Start Machine]

Intrepid Reader: Theo Epstein

Need a closer? Interesting...

Is this supposed to be about Marmol?  Because I read that Theo was taking calls on him, but you may have linked the wrong article.

Yes, I'm saying if Terry Ryan is dumb enough to sign a 37-year-old to play shortstop and give him a multi-year deal to boot, he might be an easy target to overpay for Marmol.

There are easier targets.

[Chuck to Chuck]

Bump.

[Yeti]

Bump.

No, Chuck

[J. Walter Weatherman]

God damn, Chuck ruins EVERYTHING. I bet he complained about his first heej.

Bump.

[Saul Goodman]

Damn. They just got San Diego's #1 prospect for a broken reliever. Either SD knows he's overrated or we're seeing why Theo wanted Hoyer and not Byrnes.

[CBStew]

Damn. They just got San Diego's #1 prospect for a broken reliever. Either SD knows he's overrated or we're seeing why Theo wanted Hoyer and not Byrnes.

On the other hand, Cashner is the kind of player that Theo would trade for if he were on another team.

[BH]

Damn. They just got San Diego's #1 prospect for a broken reliever. Either SD knows he's overrated or we're seeing why Theo wanted Hoyer and not Byrnes.

On the other hand, Cashner is the kind of player that Theo would trade for if he were on another team.

Doubtful Theo would target a reliever as the primary piece of any trade.

[Eli]

Damn. They just got San Diego's #1 prospect for a broken reliever. Either SD knows he's overrated or we're seeing why Theo wanted Hoyer and not Byrnes.

On the other hand, Cashner is the kind of player that Theo would trade for if he were on another team.

Doubtful Theo would target a reliever as the primary piece of any trade.

I don't think Cashner will always be a reliever for them, unless they plan for him to stick at closer.

[CBStew]

Damn. They just got San Diego's #1 prospect for a broken reliever. Either SD knows he's overrated or we're seeing why Theo wanted Hoyer and not Byrnes.

On the other hand, Cashner is the kind of player that Theo would trade for if he were on another team.

Doubtful Theo would target a reliever as the primary piece of any trade.

Except that Cashner was touted as a starter, and that is what he was doing when he wrecked his shoulder.

[Chuck to Chuck]

Damn. They just got San Diego's #1 prospect for a broken reliever. Either SD knows he's overrated or we're seeing why Theo wanted Hoyer and not Byrnes.

On the other hand, Cashner is the kind of player that Theo would trade for if he were on another team.

Doubtful Theo would target a reliever as the primary piece of any trade.

I don't think Cashner will always be a reliever for them, unless they plan for him to stick at closer.

That would seem to be their bet. He closed at TCU.

[MidgetSellingWater]

Damn. They just got San Diego's #1 prospect for a broken reliever. Either SD knows he's overrated or we're seeing why Theo wanted Hoyer and not Byrnes.

On the other hand, Cashner is the kind of player that Theo would trade for if he were on another team.

Doubtful Theo would target a reliever as the primary piece of any trade.

I don't think Cashner will always be a reliever for them, unless they plan for him to stick at closer.

That would seem to be their bet. He closed at TCU.

Here's the take from a senior level executive at another ML franchise (sic'd):

"Rizzo is about as good a 1B prospect as you can be – young for every level, succeeding at every level, etc. The only problem is that still isn't a great prospect. The offensive expectations at 1B (roughly .280/.360/.470 to just be average) are so high that no matter how good a minor league hitter you are, we can't really expect you to hit that well. 50% of players might "outperform" our expectations/projections/translation, but Rizzo will have to do that to be an above average 1B.

We like Cates a decent amount – a chance to be a mid-rotation starter.

Cashner is tough. Our scouts love him, but they disagree whether he can get back into the rotation. Statistically, he's pretty good in either role, but obviously has much more value as an SP. But his shoulder issues mean he hasn't thrown more than about 100 IP in any season in his career, so I kinda doubt he can stay healthy as a starter.

We have one great report on Na from last year and one terrible one from this year. Statistically he kinda sucks. He's definitely worse that Cates.

I generally like the trade...just keep remember how high your expectations are for Rizzo to be a good 1B."

In other words, decent trade because Cashner is no guarantee but 1Bs are a dime a dozen.

[J. Walter Weatherman]

In other words, decent trade because Cashner is no guarantee but 1Bs are a dime a dozen First Basemen with low .900 OPS basically grow on trees.

LDA'd

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Damn. They just got San Diego's #1 prospect for a broken reliever. Either SD knows he's overrated or we're seeing why Theo wanted Hoyer and not Byrnes.

On the other hand, Cashner is the kind of player that Theo would trade for if he were on another team.

Doubtful Theo would target a reliever as the primary piece of any trade.

I don't think Cashner will always be a reliever for them, unless they plan for him to stick at closer.

That would seem to be their bet. He closed at TCU.

Here's the take from a senior level executive at another ML franchise (sic'd):

"Rizzo is about as good a 1B prospect as you can be – young for every level, succeeding at every level, etc. The only problem is that still isn't a great prospect. The offensive expectations at 1B (roughly .280/.360/.470 to just be average) are so high that no matter how good a minor league hitter you are, we can't really expect you to hit that well. 50% of players might "outperform" our expectations/projections/translation, but Rizzo will have to do that to be an above average 1B.

We like Cates a decent amount – a chance to be a mid-rotation starter.

Cashner is tough. Our scouts love him, but they disagree whether he can get back into the rotation. Statistically, he's pretty good in either role, but obviously has much more value as an SP. But his shoulder issues mean he hasn't thrown more than about 100 IP in any season in his career, so I kinda doubt he can stay healthy as a starter.

We have one great report on Na from last year and one terrible one from this year. Statistically he kinda sucks. He's definitely worse that Cates.

I generally like the trade...just keep remember how high your expectations are for Rizzo to be a good 1B."

In other words, decent trade because Cashner is no guarantee but 1Bs are a dime a dozen.

No you just keep remember!