Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread

[Tonker]

Sucks if this is true.

Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

Theo: Tom, can I have $155 million to sign a pitcher?
Tom: Dad says, "No."
Theo: OK, then I'll bid up the price knowing we can't win so the Yankees will pay luxury tax that's given to the small market teams and since we're not a small market team that money will go directly to our competitors and help them get better, maybe better enough to beat us.
Tom: Sounds good to me.

Yeah, that never happened.

No, Chuck.

EDIT: This might have been Chuckian sarcasm, but I'm finding it hard to tell.

Oh, see, now you all look a bit stupid.  Chuck looks most stupid of all, natch, but nobody comes out of this well.  Ladies and germs, the Luxury Tax:

The first $5 million is withheld to cover potential refunds, and is contributed to the Industry Growth Fund (IGF) if no refunds are forthcoming. The remaining money is divided as follows: 50% funds player benefits, 25% funds developing baseball in countries without high school baseball, and 25% goes to the IGF.

Not one penny goes to any other team.

[Bort]

Sucks if this is true.

Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

Theo: Tom, can I have $155 million to sign a pitcher?
Tom: Dad says, "No."
Theo: OK, then I'll bid up the price knowing we can't win so the Yankees will pay luxury tax that's given to the small market teams and since we're not a small market team that money will go directly to our competitors and help them get better, maybe better enough to beat us.
Tom: Sounds good to me.

Yeah, that never happened.

No, Chuck.

EDIT: This might have been Chuckian sarcasm, but I'm finding it hard to tell.

Oh, see, now you all look a bit stupid.  Chuck looks most stupid of all, natch, but nobody comes out of this well.  Ladies and germs, the Luxury Tax:

The first $5 million is withheld to cover potential refunds, and is contributed to the Industry Growth Fund (IGF) if no refunds are forthcoming. The remaining money is divided as follows: 50% funds player benefits, 25% funds developing baseball in countries without high school baseball, and 25% goes to the IGF.

Not one penny goes to any other team.

My only contribution to this thread was making fun of Fork, so I think I come up smelling like a rose, thank you very much.

[Slaky]

Mooney says the actual bid was 6/120.

So much for not being outbid, then?

RV and Eli are pretty disheartened by this. Your take?

EDIT: Also in not-shitty news the Cubs Top 10 Prospect list was announced by BP and not only is it the 2nd best in baseball but I could see any of the 10 guys becoming good major leaguers.

I also have a stupid baseball-crush on Alcantara but that might be born from a desire to rid this planet of Darwin Barney.

[InternetApex]

Mooney says the actual bid was 6/120.

So much for not being outbid, then?

RV and Eli are pretty disheartened by this. Your take?

Looks they offered him 20 Million dollars a year. If the Yankees were desperate enough to go well beyond that, I see absolutely no reason to be upset about this.

[Slaky]

Mooney says the actual bid was 6/120.

So much for not being outbid, then?

RV and Eli are pretty disheartened by this. Your take?

Looks they offered him 20 Million dollars a year. If the Yankees were desperate enough to go well beyond that, I see absolutely no reason to be upset about this.

That's what I thought, too. If they have the cheese to give out 20 mil a year that just means they truly aren't interested in a lot of the FAs of this year because they aren't worth it.

[BH]

Mooney says the actual bid was 6/120.

So much for not being outbid, then?

RV and Eli are pretty disheartened by this. Your take?

If he signed for $120 million, cubs fans would be complaining about how they overpaid for him. And they would probably be right.

[InternetApex]

Mooney says the actual bid was 6/120.

So much for not being outbid, then?

RV and Eli are pretty disheartened by this. Your take?

If he signed for $120 million, cubs fans would be complaining about how they overpaid for him. And they would probably be right.

He has never thrown a Major League pitch. This guy could be the Japanese Frank Castillo for all we know.

[Slaky]

Mooney says the actual bid was 6/120.

So much for not being outbid, then?

RV and Eli are pretty disheartened by this. Your take?

If he signed for $120 million, cubs fans would be complaining about how they overpaid for him. And they would probably be right.

He has never thrown a Major League pitch. This guy could be the Japanese Frank Castillo for all we know.

He's dead?

[InternetApex]

Mooney says the actual bid was 6/120.

So much for not being outbid, then?

RV and Eli are pretty disheartened by this. Your take?

If he signed for $120 million, cubs fans would be complaining about how they overpaid for him. And they would probably be right.

He has never thrown a Major League pitch. This guy could be the Japanese Frank Castillo for all we know.

He's dead?

He may not even exist.

[R-V]

Mooney says the actual bid was 6/120.

So much for not being outbid, then?

RV and Eli are pretty disheartened by this. Your take?

Looks they offered him 20 Million dollars a year. If the Yankees were desperate enough to go well beyond that, I see absolutely no reason to be upset about this.

That's what I thought, too. If they have the cheese to give out 20 mil a year that just means they truly aren't interested in a lot of the FAs of this year because they aren't worth it.

Obviously paying $20 M+ a year for ANY pitcher is a huge risk. But given the fact that there aren't any aces on the horizon in the Cubs system, they're probably going to have to acquire one from outside the organization at some point. And this seemed as good a bet/investment as anyone given that he's (a) young (b) a potential ace and (c) wouldn't cost any prospects. Any ace-type pitcher they acquire now will either cost a shit ton of cash and be 3-5 years older than Tanaka, AND/OR will cost you some really good prospects.

[R-V]

To some extent I'm just tired of bad news. Losing out on Darvish, Cespedes, Anibal. Castro sucking. Ownership taking a goddamn eternity to get this renovation done that I'm sick and tired of caring about. Cliff Alexander taking a dump on John Groce. Bears missing the playoffs. Bulls mired in NBA hell.

I love talking Cubs prospects because I hope to FUCKING JEEBERS 3 or 4 of the top 10 actually turn out to be studs. But that's all we have to hang our hat on at the moment. As I think SKO mentioned, I know the Cubs are absolutely doing the right thing with this but I want sports to give me some good feels post haste to replace all the bad feels.

(yes I've tried to glom on to the Hawks but I just can't do it)

[InternetApex]

To some extent I'm just tired of bad news. Losing out on Darvish, Cespedes, Anibal. Castro sucking. Ownership taking a goddamn eternity to get this renovation done that I'm sick and tired of caring about. Cliff Alexander taking a dump on John Groce. Bears missing the playoffs. Bulls mired in NBA hell.

I love talking Cubs prospects because I hope to FUCKING JEEBERS 3 or 4 of the top 10 actually turn out to be studs. But that's all we have to hang our hat on at the moment. As I think SKO mentioned, I know the Cubs are absolutely doing the right thing with this but I want sports to give me some good feels post haste to replace all the bad feels.

(yes I've tried to glom on to the Hawks but I just can't do it)

I glommed onto the Heat and it's been great. Life is good.

[Saul Goodman]

To some extent I'm just tired of bad news. Losing out on Darvish, Cespedes, Anibal. Castro sucking. Ownership taking a goddamn eternity to get this renovation done that I'm sick and tired of caring about. Cliff Alexander taking a dump on John Groce. Bears missing the playoffs. Bulls mired in NBA hell.

I love talking Cubs prospects because I hope to FUCKING JEEBERS 3 or 4 of the top 10 actually turn out to be studs. But that's all we have to hang our hat on at the moment. As I think SKO mentioned, I know the Cubs are absolutely doing the right thing with this but I want sports to give me some good feels post haste to replace all the bad feels.

(yes I've tried to glom on to the Hawks but I just can't do it)

I glommed onto the Heat LeBron's dong and it's been great. Life is good.

smh

[Bort]

To some extent I'm just tired of bad news. Losing out on Darvish, Cespedes, Anibal. Castro sucking. Ownership taking a goddamn eternity to get this renovation done that I'm sick and tired of caring about. Cliff Alexander taking a dump on John Groce. Bears missing the playoffs. Bulls mired in NBA hell.

I love talking Cubs prospects because I hope to FUCKING JEEBERS 3 or 4 of the top 10 actually turn out to be studs. But that's all we have to hang our hat on at the moment. As I think SKO mentioned, I know the Cubs are absolutely doing the right thing with this but I want sports to give me some good feels post haste to replace all the bad feels.

(yes I've tried to glom on to the Hawks but I just can't do it)

I glommed onto the Heat and it's been great. Life is good.

At least CT has his beloved White Sox.

[BH]

To some extent I'm just tired of bad news. Losing out on Darvish, Cespedes, Anibal. Castro sucking. Ownership taking a goddamn eternity to get this renovation done that I'm sick and tired of caring about. Cliff Alexander taking a dump on John Groce. Bears missing the playoffs. Bulls mired in NBA hell.

I love talking Cubs prospects because I hope to FUCKING JEEBERS 3 or 4 of the top 10 actually turn out to be studs. But that's all we have to hang our hat on at the moment. As I think SKO mentioned, I know the Cubs are absolutely doing the right thing with this but I want sports to give me some good feels post haste to replace all the bad feels.

(yes I've tried to glom on to the Hawks but I just can't do it)

It's not all bad news. Soler was the guy from Cuba with youth and potential, the Cubs got him. The front office traded a 2 month Garza rental into 4 legit prospects.  The farm system is ranked #2 in baseball - all turned around in the past few years. The Cubs should have another top pick after this years crappy season. Theo and Hoyer are good at turning mediocre talent into good prospects at the trade deadline.