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Eli

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #240 on: May 08, 2012, 08:05:31 AM »
Quote from: BH on May 08, 2012, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.

With Lahair hitting like Barry Bonds and Garza, Samardzija and that unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery all apparently battling for the Cy Young, maybe this season won't suck as much as everyone thought.

Just kidding. It'll still suck.

It's going to be really strange when we trade Garza and Dempster who are playing well for good, young prospects, instead of making them the highest paid pitchers in baseball. Plus lifetime no trade clauses.

I think Dempster is probably gone, but I'm not as certain about Garza. I think they might be better off extending him, expensive as it might be.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #241 on: May 08, 2012, 08:07:39 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 08:05:31 AM
Quote from: BH on May 08, 2012, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.

With Lahair hitting like Barry Bonds and Garza, Samardzija and that unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery all apparently battling for the Cy Young, maybe this season won't suck as much as everyone thought.

Just kidding. It'll still suck.

It's going to be really strange when we trade Garza and Dempster who are playing well for good, young prospects, instead of making them the highest paid pitchers in baseball. Plus lifetime no trade clauses.

I think Dempster is probably gone, but I'm not as certain about Garza. I think they might be better off extending him, expensive as it might be.

Agreed.  Sure he's a nice trade chip but he's in his prime and he's pretty good.  No reason why he can't be a part of this team when they're (hopefully) competitive in 2014.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #242 on: May 08, 2012, 08:54:42 AM »
Quote from: Tonker on May 08, 2012, 01:15:28 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.

No, me neither - It's not their fault they suck.

It helps that they're playing much better defense this year, definitely helps the watchability factor. Yes defensive statistics are unreliable and yes it's early, but last year they were 17th and this year they're 6th in Fangraphs overall defensive rankings.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #243 on: May 08, 2012, 09:03:48 AM »
If Epstink hadn't traded Marshall, the Cubs would be .500 now

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #244 on: May 08, 2012, 09:04:18 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 08:05:31 AM
Quote from: BH on May 08, 2012, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.

With Lahair hitting like Barry Bonds and Garza, Samardzija and that unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery all apparently battling for the Cy Young, maybe this season won't suck as much as everyone thought.

Just kidding. It'll still suck.

It's going to be really strange when we trade Garza and Dempster who are playing well for good, young prospects, instead of making them the highest paid pitchers in baseball. Plus lifetime no trade clauses.

I think Dempster is probably gone, but I'm not as certain about Garza. I think they might be better off extending him, expensive as it might be.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #245 on: May 08, 2012, 09:10:04 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 08:05:31 AM
Quote from: BH on May 08, 2012, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.

With Lahair hitting like Barry Bonds and Garza, Samardzija and that unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery all apparently battling for the Cy Young, maybe this season won't suck as much as everyone thought.

Just kidding. It'll still suck.

It's going to be really strange when we trade Garza and Dempster who are playing well for good, young prospects, instead of making them the highest paid pitchers in baseball. Plus lifetime no trade clauses.

I think Dempster is probably gone, but I'm not as certain about Garza. I think they might be better off extending him, expensive as it might be.

I'd like to keep Garza around. Dempster still has to agree to a trade, right? I have a hard time seeing that happening unless a World Series favorite like Texas comes knocking.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #246 on: May 08, 2012, 09:25:44 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2012, 09:10:04 AM
I'd like to keep Garza around. Dempster still has to agree to a trade, right? I have a hard time seeing that happening unless a World Series favorite like Texas comes knocking.

Yeah, he does. I know he adores Chicago but there's nothing stopping him from going to another team at midseason and then just re-signing with the Cubs. And while I mostly profess my love for Dempster to raise Huey's blood pressure, having him back on a 1 or 2 year deal wouldn't be the worst thing. Especially considering the lack of good starting options already in the system.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #247 on: May 08, 2012, 09:34:22 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2012, 09:10:04 AM
I'd like to keep Garza around. Dempster still has to agree to a trade, right? I have a hard time seeing that happening unless a World Series favorite like Texas comes knocking.

Yeah, he does. I know he adores Chicago but there's nothing stopping him from going to another a potential playoff team at midseason and then just re-signing with the Cubs.

Playoff rental'd

Because even Shecky has to know the Cubs aren't going there this season.

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
And while I mostly profess my love for Dempster to raise Huey's blood pressure, having him back on a 1 or 2 year deal wouldn't be the worst thing. Especially considering the lack of good starting options already in the system.

TEAM DEMPSTER!
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #248 on: May 08, 2012, 10:10:42 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 09:34:22 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2012, 09:10:04 AM
I'd like to keep Garza around. Dempster still has to agree to a trade, right? I have a hard time seeing that happening unless a World Series favorite like Texas comes knocking.

Yeah, he does. I know he adores Chicago but there's nothing stopping him from going to another a potential playoff team at midseason and then just re-signing with the Cubs.

Playoff rental'd

Because even Shecky has to know the Cubs aren't going there this season.

Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
And while I mostly profess my love for Dempster to raise Huey's blood pressure, having him back on a 1 or 2 year deal wouldn't be the worst thing. Especially considering the lack of good starting options already in the system.

TEAM DEMPSTER!

They could trade him to the White Sox. He wouldn't even have to move. Too bad the Sox don't have anything anybody wants. Cash money perhaps.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #249 on: May 08, 2012, 10:44:21 AM »

I think Garza might be where we see the biggest difference between Epstink and Hendry.

Hendry would have traded Garza this winter for the best available package, and Epstink won't move him until he gets what he wants.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #250 on: May 08, 2012, 10:52:23 AM »
Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2012, 10:44:21 AM

I think Garza might be where we see the biggest difference between Epstink and Hendry.

Hendry would have traded Garza this winter for the best available package, and Epstink won't move him until he gets what he wants.



Not a chance Hendry would of traded Garza.  If anything he'd have given him a contract extension that wiped out his arbitration years at above market value.

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #251 on: May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM »
Quote from: CT III on May 08, 2012, 10:52:23 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2012, 10:44:21 AM

I think Garza might be where we see the biggest difference between Epstink and Hendry.

Hendry would have traded Garza this winter for the best available package, and Epstink won't move him until he gets what he wants.

Not a chance Hendry would of traded Garza.  If anything he'd have given him a contract extension that wiped out his arbitration years at above market value.

Exactly. Hendry traded FOR Garza.  No way he gives him up.

When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #252 on: May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM

When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?

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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #253 on: May 08, 2012, 11:21:47 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM

When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?

Mark DeRosa.

Aramis Ramirez.
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Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
« Reply #254 on: May 08, 2012, 11:22:28 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM

When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?

Mark DeRosa.

Aramis Ramirez.

I don't remember the Cubs trading Aramis Ramirez at his peak.
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