2012 Chicago Cubs

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk."  As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it.  I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.

I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.

And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal." 

And there I go taking PANK literally again.

Sabometrics? They measure the guy that beat Mark Grace for the ROY?

Spuds!

[Tonker]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk."  As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it.  I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.

I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.

And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."  

And there I go taking PANK literally again.

I think I remember Baseball Prospectus figuring out that you really needed to be stealing around four bases for every caught stealing if you weren't going to be doing more harm than good.  Somewhere between 75% and 80% is the magic number, I'm pretty sure.

Yet another reason to fucking hate Juan Pierre.

[Yeti]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk."  As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it.  I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.

I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.

And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal." 

And there I go taking PANK literally again.

Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB

[Quality Start Machine]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk."  As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it.  I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.

I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.

And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal." 

And there I go taking PANK literally again.

Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB

Lesson learned: Campana needs to figure out how to steal first base.

[Chuck to Chuck]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk."  As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it.  I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.

I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.

And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal." 

And there I go taking PANK literally again.

Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB

Lesson learned: Campana needs to figure out how to steal first base.

He should go across the field and ask AJ Pierzynski.

[Brownie]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk."  As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it.  I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.

I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.

And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal." 

And there I go taking PANK literally again.

Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB

If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.

[BH]

Crazy Rumor Guy
"Rival teams frequently ask about Darwin Barney and it's possible the Cubs will trade the second baseman."

[Internet Apex]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk."  As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it.  I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.

I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.

And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal." 

And there I go taking PANK literally again.

Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB

If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.

His stolen bases can't drive in runners from first like say, a double might. So I'm not going to look at it that way. I'm just not. *folds arms*

[Brownie]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk."  As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it.  I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.

I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.

And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal." 

And there I go taking PANK literally again.

Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB

If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.

His stolen bases can't drive in runners from first like say, a double might. So I'm not going to look at it that way. I'm just not. *folds arms*

Do they count doubles with the bases empty or the doubles that have zero chance of driving in a run in slugging percentage?

But, hey, it's a free country.

[Chuck to Chuck]

If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.

Did you take the 3 CS out of SLG as well?

[Brownie]

If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.

Did you take the 3 CS out of SLG as well?

I did, and it brought it down to .755... but, if Alfonso Soriano hits a double and mid FYC, he gets thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple, he still gets credit for the double.

[flannj]

1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.

The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.

My morning commute is going to finish with this guy "mother fucking" me from Monroe to Adams to Quincy.

Could be the highlight of my day.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.

The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.

My morning commute is going to finish with this guy "mother fucking" me from Monroe to Adams to Quincy.

Could be the highlight of my day.

I' very happy that the Cubs have knocked the Sox out of first.  The highlight for the season will be if they sweep them tonight.

Also, per the other discussion, I see Yeti's bf Campana got PICKED OFF last night.  Way to go, Yeti.

[J. Walter Weatherman]

1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.

The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.

My morning commute is going to finish with this guy "mother fucking" me from Monroe to Adams to Quincy.

Could be the highlight of my day.

I' very happy that the Cubs have knocked the Sox out of first.  The highlight for the season will be if they sweep them tonight.

We'll also finally learn whether there are tie-break procedures in place for the BP Cup.

[morpheus]

1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.

The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.

My morning commute is going to finish with this guy "mother fucking" me from Monroe to Adams to Quincy.

Could be the highlight of my day.

Are you Randolph or Mortimer?