Reasonable Trade Discussion

[Eli]

Go have fun here. FuzzBeadEli point this out a few weeks ago. Castro has been bad for a while.  This link covers the last 4 years.  Even if you exclude this year and only do 2012-2014 (two of three years good) he's still 15th in WAR among qualified SS.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

I realize I'm saying Chuck is right by saying I'm right, but those numbers aren't pretty for Castro. Even if you put in the absolute most favorable filtering for him of 2011-2014 (and I don't know why you'd cherry-pick things that way) he's 16th out of 30th shortshops in offensive WAR:

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=1000&type=8&season=2014&month=0&season1=2011&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=19,d

[Saul Goodman]

Go have fun here. FuzzBeadEli point this out a few weeks ago. Castro has been bad for a while.  This link covers the last 4 years.  Even if you exclude this year and only do 2012-2014 (two of three years good) he's still 15th in WAR among qualified SS.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

I realize I'm saying Chuck is right by saying I'm right, but those numbers aren't pretty for Castro. Even if you put in the absolute most favorable filtering for him of 2011-2014 (and I don't know why you'd cherry-pick things that way) he's 16th out of 30th shortshops in offensive WAR:

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=1000&type=8&season=2014&month=0&season1=2011&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=19,d

Yes, but trading him is out of the question, how dare anyone suggest that.

Then again they probably wouldn't be able to get much for him the way he's hitting anyway.

[SKO]

Go have fun here. FuzzBeadEli point this out a few weeks ago. Castro has been bad for a while.  This link covers the last 4 years.  Even if you exclude this year and only do 2012-2014 (two of three years good) he's still 15th in WAR among qualified SS.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

I realize I'm saying Chuck is right by saying I'm right, but those numbers aren't pretty for Castro. Even if you put in the absolute most favorable filtering for him of 2011-2014 (and I don't know why you'd cherry-pick things that way) he's 16th out of 30th shortshops in offensive WAR:

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=1000&type=8&season=2014&month=0&season1=2011&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=19,d

Also batting him second to fix him is a terrible idea. Lineup protection has been proven time and again to be a myth so all you'd be doing is asking the guy who makes the most outs on the team to make them in front of Rizzo and Bryant.  No thanks.

6 is best for him. 5 is more of a run producing spot and at 7 ahead of the pitcher I doubt he'd be patient enough to walk a lot when pitchers pitch around him. Fowler might,  though.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

God damnit, Starlin.  We had such high hopes for you.

[ChuckD]

Go have fun here. FuzzBeadEli point this out a few weeks ago. Castro has been bad for a while.  This link covers the last 4 years.  Even if you exclude this year and only do 2012-2014 (two of three years good) he's still 15th in WAR among qualified SS.

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2015&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0

I realize I'm saying Chuck is right by saying I'm right, but those numbers aren't pretty for Castro. Even if you put in the absolute most favorable filtering for him of 2011-2014 (and I don't know why you'd cherry-pick things that way) he's 16th out of 30th shortshops in offensive WAR:

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=ss&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=1000&type=8&season=2014&month=0&season1=2011&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=19,d

Also batting him second to fix him is a terrible idea. Lineup protection has been proven time and again to be a myth so all you'd be doing is asking the guy who makes the most outs on the team to make them in front of Rizzo and Bryant.  No thanks.

6 is best for him. 5 is more of a run producing spot and at 7 ahead of the pitcher I doubt he'd be patient enough to walk a lot when pitchers pitch around him. Fowler might,  though.

Or maybe start hitting the pitcher 9th like Jesus intended and bat Starlin 7th.

[Saul Goodman]

For some reason it's news that the Cubs have the money to add players.

"There are financial resources if [president of baseball operations] Theo [Epstein] needs money to make a deal," said Crane Kenney. "No one I trust more to figure out what to do [than] Theo and [GM] Jed [Hoyer]."

So cute how Crane thinks he's Theo's boss.

[Quality Start Machine]

For some reason it's news that the Cubs have the money to add players.

"There are financial resources if [president of baseball operations] Theo [Epstein] needs money to make a deal," said Crane Kenney. "No one I trust more to figure out what to do [than] Theo and [GM] Jed [Hoyer]."

So cute how Crane thinks he's Theo's boss.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall any time Theo has to listen to Crane.

[Chuck to Chuck]

For some reason it's news that the Cubs have the money to add players.

"There are financial resources if [president of baseball operations] Theo [Epstein] needs money to make a deal," said Crane Kenney. "No one I trust more to figure out what to do [than] Theo and [GM] Jed [Hoyer]."

So cute how Crane thinks he's Theo's boss.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall any time Theo has to listen to Crane.

You'd be alone a long time.

[Eli]

For some reason it's news that the Cubs have the money to add players.

"There are financial resources if [president of baseball operations] Theo [Epstein] needs money to make a deal," said Crane Kenney. "No one I trust more to figure out what to do [than] Theo and [GM] Jed [Hoyer]."

So cute how Crane thinks he's Theo's boss.

And Gordo naturally took those comments to mean there's no flexibility.

[SKO]

For some reason it's news that the Cubs have the money to add players.

"There are financial resources if [president of baseball operations] Theo [Epstein] needs money to make a deal," said Crane Kenney. "No one I trust more to figure out what to do [than] Theo and [GM] Jed [Hoyer]."

So cute how Crane thinks he's Theo's boss.

And Gordo naturally took those comments to mean there's no flexibility.

I'll say it again: what does the Sun Times gain by having a beat writer who appears to be despised by

1)The team he covers and needs access to
2) The fans who have to read him and hate his bullshit agenda
3) From what I gather, other beat writers ?

This is not a winning strategem IMO. Is this a Mariotti/Skip Bayless thing? Do they think he's so incendiary he draws in readers who read him just to get their hate boners on?

[Quality Start Machine]

For some reason it's news that the Cubs have the money to add players.

"There are financial resources if [president of baseball operations] Theo [Epstein] needs money to make a deal," said Crane Kenney. "No one I trust more to figure out what to do [than] Theo and [GM] Jed [Hoyer]."

So cute how Crane thinks he's Theo's boss.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall any time Theo has to listen to Crane.

You'd be alone a long time.

The only question is if Theo does his wanking motion lefty or righty.

[Tonker]

For some reason it's news that the Cubs have the money to add players.

"There are financial resources if [president of baseball operations] Theo [Epstein] needs money to make a deal," said Crane Kenney. "No one I trust more to figure out what to do [than] Theo and [GM] Jed [Hoyer]."

So cute how Crane thinks he's Theo's boss.

And Gordo naturally took those comments to mean there's no flexibility.

I'll say it again: what does the Sun Times gain by having a beat writer who appears to be despised by

1)The team he covers and needs access to
2) The fans who have to read him and hate his bullshit agenda
3) From what I gather, other beat writers ?

This is not a winning strategem IMO. Is this a Mariotti/Skip Bayless thing? Do they think he's so incendiary he draws in readers who read him just to get their hate boners on?

In terms of being incendiary, Wittenmyer isn't even in the same ballpark as Mariotti.  He's not even good at being bad.

[Yeti]

For some reason it's news that the Cubs have the money to add players.

"There are financial resources if [president of baseball operations] Theo [Epstein] needs money to make a deal," said Crane Kenney. "No one I trust more to figure out what to do [than] Theo and [GM] Jed [Hoyer]."

So cute how Crane thinks he's Theo's boss.

I don't really see how that shows Crane thinks he's Theo's boss. He's the president of business operations, right? That would mean he would have control over payroll considerations. Not necessarily what players are on the team, but "Hey, Theo, we can go up to x million in payroll" or if Theo was looking at trade possibilities and he asked Crane "Hey, kind of flexibility do I have with the payroll this year?"... And I'm pretty sure that's what he said there.

[InternetApex]

For some reason it's news that the Cubs have the money to add players.

"There are financial resources if [president of baseball operations] Theo [Epstein] needs money to make a deal," said Crane Kenney. "No one I trust more to figure out what to do [than] Theo and [GM] Jed [Hoyer]."

So cute how Crane thinks he's Theo's boss.

I don't really see how that shows Crane thinks he's Theo's boss. He's the president of business operations, right? That would mean he would have control over payroll considerations. Not necessarily what players are on the team, but "Hey, Theo, we can go up to x million in payroll" or if Theo was looking at trade possibilities and he asked Crane "Hey, kind of flexibility do I have with the payroll this year?"... And I'm pretty sure that's what he said there.

And they probably both know what they were told by Tom Ricketts and when they go ask him for stuff they probably need to be on the same page. Crane may be a pudwhack but I don't really see anything wrong with what he said here.

[SKO]

For some reason it's news that the Cubs have the money to add players.

"There are financial resources if [president of baseball operations] Theo [Epstein] needs money to make a deal," said Crane Kenney. "No one I trust more to figure out what to do [than] Theo and [GM] Jed [Hoyer]."

So cute how Crane thinks he's Theo's boss.

I don't really see how that shows Crane thinks he's Theo's boss. He's the president of business operations, right? That would mean he would have control over payroll considerations. Not necessarily what players are on the team, but "Hey, Theo, we can go up to x million in payroll" or if Theo was looking at trade possibilities and he asked Crane "Hey, kind of flexibility do I have with the payroll this year?"... And I'm pretty sure that's what he said there.

And they probably both know what they were told by Tom Ricketts and when they go ask him for stuff they probably need to be on the same page. Crane may be a pudwhack but I don't really see anything wrong with what he said here.

He exists and therefore Chuck has to bitch about him.