Reasonable Trade Discussion

[SKO]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

[Slaky]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

No. In fact they're going to have to replace Encarnacion or Bautista at some point soon. I guess Anthopoulous is anticipating that and making moves now to see if he can squeeze anything out of this group as presently constructed.

[CT III]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

[Oleg]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

It's not David Clarkson's fault that The Leafs are made of money.  And, the cap.

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

Fuckin' 'ay. Granted, over the past 22 months I've developed an affinity for Tulo.  He's just awesome.  But, I also can't really dislike Bautista.  And Donaldson is awesome.

I think I have my AL rooting interest.

Thanks.

[Yeti]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

It's not David Clarkson's fault that The Leafs are made of money.  And, the cap.

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

Fuckin' 'ay. Granted, over the past 22 months I've developed an affinity for Tulo.  He's just awesome.  But, I also can't really dislike Bautista.  And Donaldson is awesome.

I think I have my AL rooting interest.

Thanks.

My (and Pen's, I think) Stros vs. your Jays. IT'S ON

[Brownie]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

It's not David Clarkson's fault that The Leafs are made of money.  And, the cap.

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

Fuckin' 'ay. Granted, over the past 22 months I've developed an affinity for Tulo.  He's just awesome.  But, I also can't really dislike Bautista.  And Donaldson is awesome.

I think I have my AL rooting interest.

Thanks.

My (and Pen's, I think) Stros vs. your Jays. IT'S ON

Fuck the Astros. They should be in the NL, Mike Scott threw spitters, they fucked J.R. Richard and introduced Ken Caminiti to steroids and crack cocaine. They were fucksticks in 2004 getting Beltran out from under Hendry's $7.50 buffet lunch and then when we needed them to perform against the Cards, they folded. When America and the world needed them to beat the Mets in 1986, they folded. When the world really needed a message that good (or at least not as evil) triumphs over evil (and skanky), they got swept by the motherfucking White Sox. The last time they were relevant, they were crying about Carlos Zambrano's no hitter at Miller Park.

So, screw 'em. I had a fondness for the late-80s through early 90s Blue Jays. Loved when they beat the Genius in the 1992 ALCS. Loved when they beat the Sox in the 1993 ALCS. Dave Stieb, Jesse Barfield, Tony Fernandez, Roberto ALomar, Ernie Whitt, George Bell, John Olerud, Jimmy Key, Ed Sprague, Joe Carter, Paul Molitor, Tom Henke. God love all of them.

[Saul Goodman]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

It's not David Clarkson's fault that The Leafs are made of money.  And, the cap.

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

Fuckin' 'ay. Granted, over the past 22 months I've developed an affinity for Tulo.  He's just awesome.  But, I also can't really dislike Bautista.  And Donaldson is awesome.

I think I have my AL rooting interest.

Thanks.

My (and Pen's, I think) Stros vs. your Jays. IT'S ON

Fuck the Astros. They should be in the NL, Mike Scott threw spitters, they fucked J.R. Richard and introduced Ken Caminiti to steroids and crack cocaine. They were fucksticks in 2004 getting Beltran out from under Hendry's $7.50 buffet lunch and then when we needed them to perform against the Cards, they folded. When America and the world needed them to beat the Mets in 1986, they folded. When the world really needed a message that good (or at least not as evil) triumphs over evil (and skanky), they got swept by the motherfucking White Sox. The last time they were relevant, they were crying about Carlos Zambrano's no hitter at Miller Park.

So, screw 'em. I had a fondness for the late-80s through early 90s Blue Jays. Loved when they beat the Genius in the 1992 ALCS. Loved when they beat the Sox in the 1993 ALCS. Dave Stieb, Jesse Barfield, Tony Fernandez, Roberto ALomar, Ernie Whitt, George Bell, John Olerud, Jimmy Key, Ed Sprague, Joe Carter, Paul Molitor, Tom Henke. God love all of them.

I too would like to say that I am Team Blue Jays this year. Also, as reparations for past misconduct ably detailed above, Houston should give us Carlos Correa for Starlin Castro.

[Eli]

A Blue Jays-Royals ALCS would be all kinds of awesome.

[Slaky]

A Blue Jays-Royals ALCS would be all kinds of awesome.

Especially because of the teams that wouldn't be in it.

[Quality Start Machine]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

It's not David Clarkson's fault that The Leafs are made of money.  And, the cap.

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

Fuckin' 'ay. Granted, over the past 22 months I've developed an affinity for Tulo.  He's just awesome.  But, I also can't really dislike Bautista.  And Donaldson is awesome.

I think I have my AL rooting interest.

Thanks.

My (and Pen's, I think) Stros vs. your Jays. IT'S ON

Fuck the Astros. They should be in the NL, Mike Scott threw spitters, they fucked J.R. Richard and introduced Ken Caminiti to steroids and crack cocaine. They were fucksticks in 2004 getting Beltran out from under Hendry's $7.50 buffet lunch and then when we needed them to perform against the Cards, they folded. When America and the world needed them to beat the Mets in 1986, they folded. When the world really needed a message that good (or at least not as evil) triumphs over evil (and skanky), they got swept by the motherfucking White Sox. The last time they were relevant, they were crying about Carlos Zambrano's no hitter at Miller Park.

So, screw 'em. I had a fondness for the late-80s through early 90s Blue Jays. Loved when they beat the Genius in the 1992 ALCS. Loved when they beat the Sox in the 1993 ALCS. Dave Stieb, Jesse Barfield, Tony Fernandez, Roberto ALomar, Ernie Whitt, George Bell, John Olerud, Jimmy Key, Ed Sprague, Joe Carter, Paul Molitor, Tom Henke. God love all of them.

THI. Fuck the Stros. TJ never even got to assholes like the fucking Beege. And Lance Berkman was really the fat chick from Facts of Life. Fuck them.

[Brownie]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

It's not David Clarkson's fault that The Leafs are made of money.  And, the cap.

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

Fuckin' 'ay. Granted, over the past 22 months I've developed an affinity for Tulo.  He's just awesome.  But, I also can't really dislike Bautista.  And Donaldson is awesome.

I think I have my AL rooting interest.

Thanks.

My (and Pen's, I think) Stros vs. your Jays. IT'S ON

Fuck the Astros. They should be in the NL, Mike Scott threw spitters, they fucked J.R. Richard and introduced Ken Caminiti to steroids and crack cocaine. They were fucksticks in 2004 getting Beltran out from under Hendry's $7.50 buffet lunch and then when we needed them to perform against the Cards, they folded. When America and the world needed them to beat the Mets in 1986, they folded. When the world really needed a message that good (or at least not as evil) triumphs over evil (and skanky), they got swept by the motherfucking White Sox. The last time they were relevant, they were crying about Carlos Zambrano's no hitter at Miller Park.

So, screw 'em. I had a fondness for the late-80s through early 90s Blue Jays. Loved when they beat the Genius in the 1992 ALCS. Loved when they beat the Sox in the 1993 ALCS. Dave Stieb, Jesse Barfield, Tony Fernandez, Roberto ALomar, Ernie Whitt, George Bell, John Olerud, Jimmy Key, Ed Sprague, Joe Carter, Paul Molitor, Tom Henke. God love all of them.

THI. Fuck the Stros. TJ never even got to assholes like the fucking Beege. And Lance Berkman was really the fat chick from Facts of Life. Fuck them.

Also, the Astros introduced baseball to Astroturf and Joe Morgan.

[Quality Start Machine]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

It's not David Clarkson's fault that The Leafs are made of money.  And, the cap.

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

Fuckin' 'ay. Granted, over the past 22 months I've developed an affinity for Tulo.  He's just awesome.  But, I also can't really dislike Bautista.  And Donaldson is awesome.

I think I have my AL rooting interest.

Thanks.

My (and Pen's, I think) Stros vs. your Jays. IT'S ON

Fuck the Astros. They should be in the NL, Mike Scott threw spitters, they fucked J.R. Richard and introduced Ken Caminiti to steroids and crack cocaine. They were fucksticks in 2004 getting Beltran out from under Hendry's $7.50 buffet lunch and then when we needed them to perform against the Cards, they folded. When America and the world needed them to beat the Mets in 1986, they folded. When the world really needed a message that good (or at least not as evil) triumphs over evil (and skanky), they got swept by the motherfucking White Sox. The last time they were relevant, they were crying about Carlos Zambrano's no hitter at Miller Park.

So, screw 'em. I had a fondness for the late-80s through early 90s Blue Jays. Loved when they beat the Genius in the 1992 ALCS. Loved when they beat the Sox in the 1993 ALCS. Dave Stieb, Jesse Barfield, Tony Fernandez, Roberto ALomar, Ernie Whitt, George Bell, John Olerud, Jimmy Key, Ed Sprague, Joe Carter, Paul Molitor, Tom Henke. God love all of them.

THI. Fuck the Stros. TJ never even got to assholes like the fucking Beege. And Lance Berkman was really the fat chick from Facts of Life. Fuck them.

Also, the Astros introduced baseball to Astroturf and Joe Morgan.

And Cesar Cedeno was a fucking murderer.

[Canadouche]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

It's not David Clarkson's fault that The Leafs are made of money.  And, the cap.

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

Fuckin' 'ay. Granted, over the past 22 months I've developed an affinity for Tulo.  He's just awesome.  But, I also can't really dislike Bautista.  And Donaldson is awesome.

I think I have my AL rooting interest.

Thanks.

My (and Pen's, I think) Stros vs. your Jays. IT'S ON

Fuck the Astros. They should be in the NL, Mike Scott threw spitters, they fucked J.R. Richard and introduced Ken Caminiti to steroids and crack cocaine. They were fucksticks in 2004 getting Beltran out from under Hendry's $7.50 buffet lunch and then when we needed them to perform against the Cards, they folded. When America and the world needed them to beat the Mets in 1986, they folded. When the world really needed a message that good (or at least not as evil) triumphs over evil (and skanky), they got swept by the motherfucking White Sox. The last time they were relevant, they were crying about Carlos Zambrano's no hitter at Miller Park.

So, screw 'em. I had a fondness for the late-80s through early 90s Blue Jays. Loved when they beat the Genius in the 1992 ALCS. Loved when they beat the Sox in the 1993 ALCS. Dave Stieb, Jesse Barfield, Tony Fernandez, Roberto ALomar, Ernie Whitt, George Bell, John Olerud, Jimmy Key, Ed Sprague, Joe Carter, Paul Molitor, Tom Henke. God love all of them.

You forgot to mention Fred McGriff.

[Yeti]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

It's not David Clarkson's fault that The Leafs are made of money.  And, the cap.

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

Fuckin' 'ay. Granted, over the past 22 months I've developed an affinity for Tulo.  He's just awesome.  But, I also can't really dislike Bautista.  And Donaldson is awesome.

I think I have my AL rooting interest.

Thanks.

My (and Pen's, I think) Stros vs. your Jays. IT'S ON

Fuck the Astros. They should be in the NL, Mike Scott threw spitters, they fucked J.R. Richard and introduced Ken Caminiti to steroids and crack cocaine. They were fucksticks in 2004 getting Beltran out from under Hendry's $7.50 buffet lunch and then when we needed them to perform against the Cards, they folded. When America and the world needed them to beat the Mets in 1986, they folded. When the world really needed a message that good (or at least not as evil) triumphs over evil (and skanky), they got swept by the motherfucking White Sox. The last time they were relevant, they were crying about Carlos Zambrano's no hitter at Miller Park.

So, screw 'em. I had a fondness for the late-80s through early 90s Blue Jays. Loved when they beat the Genius in the 1992 ALCS. Loved when they beat the Sox in the 1993 ALCS. Dave Stieb, Jesse Barfield, Tony Fernandez, Roberto ALomar, Ernie Whitt, George Bell, John Olerud, Jimmy Key, Ed Sprague, Joe Carter, Paul Molitor, Tom Henke. God love all of them.

THI. Fuck the Stros. TJ never even got to assholes like the fucking Beege. And Lance Berkman was really the fat chick from Facts of Life. Fuck them.

Also, the Astros introduced baseball to Astroturf and Joe Morgan.

Those reasons are all fine and dandy, but I like teams that just fucking hack it away like it's their job. After this season (projected out), they'll have had 1,471 Ks/season for the last 3 years. That includes breaking the MLB strikeout record in 2013. That 2013 was helped by Rick Ankiel's Most Awesomest Season Ever: 62 ABs, 5 HRs, 35Ks (!). This year they're on pace for 1436. And they're in first place!

EDIT: Also, 1st in HR (AL Ranks), 13th in Avg, 10th in OBP, but 4th in SLG. They're a bunch of 2 outcome players (K or HR) and I love it.

[Brownie]

David Price to The Blue Jays.

Daniel Norris, apparently, heading to Detroit.

The Dollar is $1.30 loonies. Now, that hurts Toronto, right? Having to pay Americans in George Washingtons while their fans and TV partners pay in funny, european-looking, much-less valuable paper will make Price's departure this offseason a fait accompli, correct?

Other than Russell Martin, who I'm sure is paid in maple syrup, Toronto isn't really a player for the top free agents.  Right?

It's not even a top destination for hockey free agents.

It's not David Clarkson's fault that The Leafs are made of money.  And, the cap.

Yeah I doubt they can re-sign him, but man I hope they make the playoffs. I wanna see that offense running roughshod over the largely shitty pitching staffs of all the Non-Astros AL contenders.

Fuckin' 'ay. Granted, over the past 22 months I've developed an affinity for Tulo.  He's just awesome.  But, I also can't really dislike Bautista.  And Donaldson is awesome.

I think I have my AL rooting interest.

Thanks.

My (and Pen's, I think) Stros vs. your Jays. IT'S ON

Fuck the Astros. They should be in the NL, Mike Scott threw spitters, they fucked J.R. Richard and introduced Ken Caminiti to steroids and crack cocaine. They were fucksticks in 2004 getting Beltran out from under Hendry's $7.50 buffet lunch and then when we needed them to perform against the Cards, they folded. When America and the world needed them to beat the Mets in 1986, they folded. When the world really needed a message that good (or at least not as evil) triumphs over evil (and skanky), they got swept by the motherfucking White Sox. The last time they were relevant, they were crying about Carlos Zambrano's no hitter at Miller Park.

So, screw 'em. I had a fondness for the late-80s through early 90s Blue Jays. Loved when they beat the Genius in the 1992 ALCS. Loved when they beat the Sox in the 1993 ALCS. Dave Stieb, Jesse Barfield, Tony Fernandez, Roberto ALomar, Ernie Whitt, George Bell, John Olerud, Jimmy Key, Ed Sprague, Joe Carter, Paul Molitor, Tom Henke. God love all of them.

You forgot to mention Fred McGriff.

McGriff and Fernandez for Robbie Alomar and Carter was one of the most fun Winter Meetings trades. Joe Carter, of course was the centerpiece of the Cubs' package to bring in Sutcliffe (and Ron Hassey and George Frazier), but he was involved in a second blockbuster trade, when Cleveland dealt him to San Diego for Sandy Alomar Jr. and Carlos Baerga.

McGriff was involved in two trade deadline deals, but the one that sent him from San Diego to Atlanta in 1993 turned out to be a flop for SD. As for Fernandez, he wound up having a nice career, playing a nice role in Cleveland's 1997 World Series team as a second baseman (coincidentally replaced with Robbie Alomar the next year).