Reasonable Trade Discussion

[SKO]

Marlins have acquired old friend Larry Andersen Andrew Cashner. He of the 3.2 WAR since leaving the Cubs. God I love Theo.

The Padres got 1B Josh Naylor back, who was a first round pick last year.  Nice choice, Theo.

Guess the Padres need a 1B, since they traded one to get Cashner.

Well they have Wil Myers at first at the moment, and he is tied with Rizzo in fWAR, so that particular position has worked out for them.

What's amusing is that they deemed Rizzo expendable at the time because they got the great Yonder Alonso from the Reds in the Latos trade. Since the trade Rizzo's only beating Alonso by about 15 wins.

[Oleg]

Marlins have acquired old friend Larry Andersen Andrew Cashner. He of the 3.2 WAR since leaving the Cubs. God I love Theo.

The Padres got 1B Josh Naylor back, who was a first round pick last year.  Nice choice, Theo.

Guess the Padres need a 1B, since they traded one to get Cashner.

Well they have Wil Myers at first at the moment, and he is tied with Rizzo in fWAR, so that particular position has worked out for them.

What's amusing is that they deemed Rizzo expendable at the time because they got the great Yonder Alonso from the Reds in the Latos trade. Since the trade Rizzo's only beating Alonso by about 15 wins.

Wil Myers cost them Trea Turner and Joe Ross, right?

[D. Doluntap]

The Padres also got Yasmani Grandal with Alonso. They then of course traded Grandal to get in on Matt Kemp and his replacement level excitement. The Padres are fun!

[SKO]

Marlins have acquired old friend Larry Andersen Andrew Cashner. He of the 3.2 WAR since leaving the Cubs. God I love Theo.

The Padres got 1B Josh Naylor back, who was a first round pick last year.  Nice choice, Theo.

Guess the Padres need a 1B, since they traded one to get Cashner.

Well they have Wil Myers at first at the moment, and he is tied with Rizzo in fWAR, so that particular position has worked out for them.

What's amusing is that they deemed Rizzo expendable at the time because they got the great Yonder Alonso from the Reds in the Latos trade. Since the trade Rizzo's only beating Alonso by about 15 wins.

Wil Myers cost them Trea Turner and Joe Ross, right?

Yeah. Not saying the Padres wouldn't have been better off keeping Rizzo, they would have, just saying Fork thinking this move was because they lack a first baseman (as if anyone trades for a player in A ball looking at their current major league depth chart) was dumb.

[CBStew]

Marlins have acquired old friend Larry Andersen Andrew Cashner. He of the 3.2 WAR since leaving the Cubs. God I love Theo.

The Padres got 1B Josh Naylor back, who was a first round pick last year.  Nice choice, Theo.

Guess the Padres need a 1B, since they traded one to get Cashner.

Well they have Wil Myers at first at the moment, and he is tied with Rizzo in fWAR, so that particular position has worked out for them.

What's amusing is that they deemed Rizzo expendable at the time because they got the great Yonder Alonso from the Reds in the Latos trade. Since the trade Rizzo's only beating Alonso by about 15 wins.

Wil Myers cost them Trea Turner and Joe Ross, right?

Yeah. Not saying the Padres wouldn't have been better off keeping Rizzo, they would have, just saying Fork thinking this move was because they lack a first baseman (as if anyone trades for a player in A ball looking at their current major league depth chart) was dumb.

Come on guys.  After all, they are the Padres.  (Didn't we used to say that about the Cubs?)

[Quality Start Machine]

Marlins have acquired old friend Larry Andersen Andrew Cashner. He of the 3.2 WAR since leaving the Cubs. God I love Theo.

The Padres got 1B Josh Naylor back, who was a first round pick last year.  Nice choice, Theo.

Guess the Padres need a 1B, since they traded one to get Cashner.

Well they have Wil Myers at first at the moment, and he is tied with Rizzo in fWAR, so that particular position has worked out for them.

What's amusing is that they deemed Rizzo expendable at the time because they got the great Yonder Alonso from the Reds in the Latos trade. Since the trade Rizzo's only beating Alonso by about 15 wins.

Wil Myers cost them Trea Turner and Joe Ross, right?

Yeah. Not saying the Padres wouldn't have been better off keeping Rizzo, they would have, just saying Fork thinking this move was because they lack a first baseman (as if anyone trades for a player in A ball looking at their current major league depth chart) was dumb.

I was merely gloating about how the Cubs hosed the Padres on the initial deal. Not recognizing a joke, even one of mine, is dumb.

[Shooter]

According to Buster Olney, the rumor circulating in baseball circles is that Theo purposely overpaid for Chapman early in the trading cycle to fuck up the trade market for everyone else.

[Quality Start Machine]

According to Buster Olney, the rumor circulating in baseball circles is that Theo purposely overpaid for Chapman early in the trading cycle to fuck up the trade market for everyone else.

Please let this be true.

[SKO]

According to Buster Olney, the rumor circulating in baseball circles is that Theo purposely overpaid for Chapman early in the trading cycle to fuck up the trade market for everyone else.

Please let this be true.

Whether he did it on purpose or not that has definitely been the effect. San Francisco especially is probably hosed because their farm totally sucks.

[Eli]

According to Buster Olney, the rumor circulating in baseball circles is that Theo purposely overpaid for Chapman early in the trading cycle to fuck up the trade market for everyone else.

That's stupid and there's no way it's true.

[Slaky]

If Bruce goes to the Mets that'd be pretty annoying. I'm hoping they don't get into the playoffs again for obvious reasons.

[SKO]

If Bruce goes to the Mets that'd be pretty annoying. I'm hoping they don't get into the playoffs again for obvious reasons.

WAR isn't a be all end all, especially if you have the kind of lineup that can afford to punt defense in a corner OF spot just to get the offense (which is why I'd have been cool with Bruce as a Cub), but it's pretty glaring that Bruce's defense and limited on base skills  mean that even with an .875 OPS he's been worth a whopping 0.7 fWAR this year. He'll be going to a much bigger outfield and going from one of the most hitter friendly parks in baseball to a pitcher's park. Cespedes/Bruce in the corners with a Granderson/Conforto platoon in center would be an absolutely abysmal defense.

I think the Mets are more or less cooked anyway. Whoever loses the Giants/Dodgers battle is getting one wildcard spot and I don't think the Mets can overtake the Marlins and the Cardinals.

[Chuck to Chuck]

If Bruce goes to the Mets that'd be pretty annoying. I'm hoping they don't get into the playoffs again for obvious reasons.

Be annoyed.

[Quality Start Machine]

If Bruce goes to the Mets that'd be pretty annoying. I'm hoping they don't get into the playoffs again for obvious reasons.

Be annoyed.

Pretty sure Mets' pitchers are more annoyed than anybody around here.

[SKO]

Sheehan says the deal may be on hold because of something in Bruce's medicals anyway, so hold your annoyance