Reasonable Trade Discussion

[Quality Start Machine]

4. Jose Fernandez, RHP, Marlins — There's more buzz that the Marlins will listen to offers for Fernandez this offseason. Fernandez has long been the apple of the eye of a lot of big-market teams that wouldn't mind writing that extension check. The Dodgers, Red Sox, Yankees, and Cubs for sure would all be in line. Right now, it doesn't appear there will be any extension talks early this offseason between Miami and Fernandez's agent, Scott Boras, if at all.

Bye, Eloy.

Considering Jake's hitting the open market and Lackey and (if he's still here) Hammel both walk after next season, does it really make sense for the Cubs to get a rental at this point? Wouldn't it make more sense to look at guys they can keep under control for a few years?

Not sure if serious. Did you miss the part about "wouldn't mind writing that extension check"? I know it's Boras, no extensions, yadda yadda, except Strasburg just signed one instead of hitting the open market as Option A, B, C, and D for starting pitching.

Strasburg probably figured it was better to cash in before Dusty could fuck his arm up.

[Chuck to Chuck]

4. Jose Fernandez, RHP, Marlins — There's more buzz that the Marlins will listen to offers for Fernandez this offseason. Fernandez has long been the apple of the eye of a lot of big-market teams that wouldn't mind writing that extension check. The Dodgers, Red Sox, Yankees, and Cubs for sure would all be in line. Right now, it doesn't appear there will be any extension talks early this offseason between Miami and Fernandez's agent, Scott Boras, if at all.

Bye, Eloy.

Considering Jake's hitting the open market and Lackey and (if he's still here) Hammel both walk after next season, does it really make sense for the Cubs to get a rental at this point? Wouldn't it make more sense to look at guys they can keep under control for a few years?

Not sure if serious. Did you miss the part about "wouldn't mind writing that extension check"? I know it's Boras, no extensions, yadda yadda, except Strasburg just signed one instead of hitting the open market as Option A, B, C, and D for starting pitching.

Strasburg probably figured it was better to cash in before Dusty could fuck his arm up.

Rumor is that Strasburg cashed in BECAUSE his arm is ALREADY fucked up and wanted the bux before the Nats figured it out.

[SKO]

4. Jose Fernandez, RHP, Marlins — There's more buzz that the Marlins will listen to offers for Fernandez this offseason. Fernandez has long been the apple of the eye of a lot of big-market teams that wouldn't mind writing that extension check. The Dodgers, Red Sox, Yankees, and Cubs for sure would all be in line. Right now, it doesn't appear there will be any extension talks early this offseason between Miami and Fernandez's agent, Scott Boras, if at all.

Bye, Eloy.

Considering Jake's hitting the open market and Lackey and (if he's still here) Hammel both walk after next season, does it really make sense for the Cubs to get a rental at this point? Wouldn't it make more sense to look at guys they can keep under control for a few years?

Not sure if serious. Did you miss the part about "wouldn't mind writing that extension check"? I know it's Boras, no extensions, yadda yadda, except Strasburg just signed one instead of hitting the open market as Option A, B, C, and D for starting pitching.

Strasburg probably figured it was better to cash in before Dusty could fuck his arm up.

Rumor is that Strasburg cashed in BECAUSE his arm is ALREADY fucked up and wanted the bux before the Nats figured it out.

I feel like you really only needed to capitalize the already there. Or better yet, use italics.

[Oleg]

Can we laugh some more at the Arrieta/Strop trade?

[Canadouche]

Jose Fernandez died in a boating accident yesterday. Holy shit.

[Yeti]

Eloy breathes a sigh of relief

[Saul Goodman]

It's about that time.

Addison Russell and the cloud hanging over him plus some stuff (probably Eloy, but not if we're lucky) back to Oakland for Sonny Gray plus some stuff.  Javy takes over at SS full-time.  Ian Happ takes over at 2B mostly full time.  Billy Beane gets to RIGHT THAT WRONG.

Does this live up to the thread title or is it crazeballs?

[Chuck to Chuck]

It's about that time.

Addison Russell and the cloud hanging over him plus some stuff (probably Eloy, but not if we're lucky) back to Oakland for Sonny Gray plus some stuff.  Javy takes over at SS full-time.  Ian Happ takes over at 2B mostly full time.  Billy Beane gets to RIGHT THAT WRONG.

Does this live up to the thread title or is it crazeballs?

Russell AND Eloy?

[Quality Start Machine]

It's about that time.

Addison Russell and the cloud hanging over him plus some stuff (probably Eloy, but not if we're lucky) back to Oakland for Sonny Gray plus some stuff.  Javy takes over at SS full-time.  Ian Happ takes over at 2B mostly full time.  Billy Beane gets to RIGHT THAT WRONG.

Does this live up to the thread title or is it crazeballs?

Unless "Some stuff" is Manaea, this is way too much for Gray.

[Brownie]

It's about that time.

Addison Russell and the cloud hanging over him plus some stuff (probably Eloy, but not if we're lucky) back to Oakland for Sonny Gray plus some stuff.  Javy takes over at SS full-time.  Ian Happ takes over at 2B mostly full time.  Billy Beane gets to RIGHT THAT WRONG.

Does this live up to the thread title or is it crazeballs?

Unless "Some stuff" is Manaea, this is way too much for Gray.

Verlander and Avila for one of Russell-Happ-Eloy plus Candelario, and Cease? Do you do this deal? Keep in mind, Detroit says it's not eating salary.

[Quality Start Machine]

It's about that time.

Addison Russell and the cloud hanging over him plus some stuff (probably Eloy, but not if we're lucky) back to Oakland for Sonny Gray plus some stuff.  Javy takes over at SS full-time.  Ian Happ takes over at 2B mostly full time.  Billy Beane gets to RIGHT THAT WRONG.

Does this live up to the thread title or is it crazeballs?

Unless "Some stuff" is Manaea, this is way too much for Gray.

Verlander and Avila for one of Russell-Happ-Eloy plus Candelario, and Cease? Do you do this deal? Keep in mind, Detroit says it's not eating salary.

Detroit not eating salary drives the asking price way down, I would think. Verlander is expensive and long in the tooth.

[Saul Goodman]

It's about that time.

Addison Russell and the cloud hanging over him plus some stuff (probably Eloy, but not if we're lucky) back to Oakland for Sonny Gray plus some stuff.  Javy takes over at SS full-time.  Ian Happ takes over at 2B mostly full time.  Billy Beane gets to RIGHT THAT WRONG.

Does this live up to the thread title or is it crazeballs?

Unless "Some stuff" is Manaea, this is way too much for Gray.

Verlander and Avila for one of Russell-Happ-Eloy plus Candelario, and Cease? Do you do this deal? Keep in mind, Detroit says it's not eating salary.

Detroit not eating salary drives the asking price way down, I would think. Verlander is expensive and long in the tooth.

Montero and Sczcur for Verlander (shh, don't tell them).

[Oleg]

It's about that time.

Addison Russell and the cloud hanging over him plus some stuff (probably Eloy, but not if we're lucky) back to Oakland for Sonny Gray plus some stuff.  Javy takes over at SS full-time.  Ian Happ takes over at 2B mostly full time.  Billy Beane gets to RIGHT THAT WRONG.

Does this live up to the thread title or is it crazeballs?

Unless "Some stuff" is Manaea, this is way too much for Gray.

Verlander and Avila for one of Russell-Happ-Eloy plus Candelario, and Cease? Do you do this deal? Keep in mind, Detroit says it's not eating salary.

Is a 3-win, 35 year old pitcher worth 56MM over two years plus whatever the buy-out in 2020 costs?  Plus any notable prospects?

[Chuck to Chuck]

It's about that time.

Addison Russell and the cloud hanging over him plus some stuff (probably Eloy, but not if we're lucky) back to Oakland for Sonny Gray plus some stuff.  Javy takes over at SS full-time.  Ian Happ takes over at 2B mostly full time.  Billy Beane gets to RIGHT THAT WRONG.

Does this live up to the thread title or is it crazeballs?

Unless "Some stuff" is Manaea, this is way too much for Gray.

Verlander and Avila for one of Russell-Happ-Eloy plus Candelario, and Cease? Do you do this deal? Keep in mind, Detroit says it's not eating salary.

Is a 3-win, 35 year old pitcher worth 56MM over two years plus whatever the buy-out in 2020 costs?  Plus any notable prospects?

2020 vests with a top 5 Cy Young vote in 2019. Cost is either $22 million or $-0-.

No salary eating means non-MLB ready talent.

So, Schwarber.

[Brownie]

Will the Cubs also sell pieces? Seriously, what would Arrieta fetch in the trade market right now if he puts together two or three more decent starts? How about Wade Davis? Can the Cubs decide that if they sneak in the playoffs this team, as currently constructed, probably won't last long, so maybe they should just reconfigure a little bit, and maybe still make the playoffs this year?

Who else could be made available? Zobrist (two more years under contract, maybe untradeable)? Russell? Lackey (would someone be desperate enough to take him since he's a "winner" with three rings)? Strop? Heyward (also maybe untradeable)?