Reasonable Trade Discussion

[Chuck to Chuck]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

Prospects are just people that are not dead yet.

[Oleg]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

I feel like that's always been the case.  I'd hope the WS win would have changed that.  Guess not.

[SKO]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

I feel like that's always been the case.  I'd hope the WS win would have changed that.  Guess not.

I also think the decline in quality at Baseball Prospectus can be largely traced to their response to every trade being "harrumph, but didn't you know prospects are VALUABLE, ser?!"

One guy said the Cubs acted like a small-market team by "over-paying in prospects to get Quintana because he's cheap." What the fuck? They paid pretty much exactly market value on the trade market for the best pitcher available, one likely better than any ace that'll be available in FA, and the very fact that he's so cheap allows them to spend their big market resources elsewhere!

[Oleg]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

I feel like that's always been the case.  I'd hope the WS win would have changed that.  Guess not.

I also think the decline in quality at Baseball Prospectus can be largely traced to their response to every trade being "harrumph, but didn't you know prospects are VALUABLE, ser?!"

One guy said the Cubs acted like a small-market team by "over-paying in prospects to get Quintana because he's cheap." What the fuck? They paid pretty much exactly market value on the trade market for the best pitcher available, one likely better than any ace that'll be available in FA, and the very fact that he's so cheap allows them to spend their big market resources elsewhere!

Classic case of having to be the smartest one in the room.

[Chuck to Chuck]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

I feel like that's always been the case.  I'd hope the WS win would have changed that.  Guess not.

I also think the decline in quality at Baseball Prospectus can be largely traced to their response to every trade being "harrumph, but didn't you know prospects are VALUABLE, ser?!"

One guy said the Cubs acted like a small-market team by "over-paying in prospects to get Quintana because he's cheap." What the fuck? They paid pretty much exactly market value on the trade market for the best pitcher available, one likely better than any ace that'll be available in FA, and the very fact that he's so cheap allows them to spend their big market resources elsewhere!

Classic case of having to be the smartest one in the room.

Not only is he cheap, but the options years are at the TEAM's option.  That means, if his arm falls off tomorrow, the Cubs are on the hook for nothing in terms of salary.  Further, since the money is not guaranteed to be paid (until the option is exercised), the Cubs save a boatload of cash in terms of insurance on a long term deal.

Winner all the way around.

[CBStew]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

Prospects are just people that are not dead yet.

I admit it...I agree with Chuck.

[Quality Start Machine]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

Prospects are just people that are not dead yet.

That's the motto of the Cardinals' farm system.

[Chuck to Chuck]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

Prospects are just people that are not dead yet.

That's the motto of the Cardinals' farm system.

Brewers.

[SKO]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

Prospects are just people that are not dead yet.

That's the motto of the Cardinals' farm system.

Brewers.

That's fucking outstanding.

[Quality Start Machine]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

Prospects are just people that are not dead yet.

That's the motto of the Cardinals' farm system.

Brewers.

That's fucking outstanding.

Not to mention, Alvin's Open Letter to Theo is like one of those albums you only put on maybe once a year, but it always delivers.

[Chuck to Chuck]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

Prospects are just people that are not dead yet.

That's the motto of the Cardinals' farm system.

Brewers.

That's fucking outstanding.

Stunned you hadn't seen it before.

[SKO]

The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.

Prospects are just people that are not dead yet.

That's the motto of the Cardinals' farm system.

Brewers.

That's fucking outstanding.

Stunned you hadn't seen it before.

To be honest I did not pay that much attention to the Cubs in 2013 outside of reading prospect lists and minor league breakdowns, I didn't actually find out about Al's Open Letter until maybe 2-3 months after it happened.

[Quality Start Machine]

the Twitter rumor mill has the Cubs still in on Gray. Does Beane RIGHT THAT WRONG and take Russell? The Cubs don't have the guys in the minors to land him.

Or is Beane using Jepstink as a stalking horse?

[Chuck to Chuck]

the Twitter rumor mill has the Cubs still in on Gray. Does Beane RIGHT THAT WRONG and take Russell? The Cubs don't have the guys in the minors to land him.

Or is Beane using Jepstink as a stalking horse?

Or, is Jepstink trying to get the Yanks and the Red Sox to beat Milwaukee to the punch?

[Saul Goodman]

Gray's start tomorrow scratched. Something must be close.