Reasonable Trade Discussion

[Saul Goodman]

Not finalized yet, but widely reported that the Cubs and Tigers have reached a deal for catcher Alex Avila and a pitcher named Justin ... Wilson. Jeimer and Isaac Paredes heading to Detroit along with cash or a PTBNL.

That's probably it for the deadline, unless they decide to move major league pieces.

[SKO]

Not finalized yet, but widely reported that the Cubs and Tigers have reached a deal for catcher Alex Avila and a pitcher named Justin ... Wilson. Jeimer and Isaac Paredes heading to Detroit along with cash or a PTBNL.

That's probably it for the deadline, unless they decide to move major league pieces.

I honestly am still not going to rule out Verlander, even in August since that contract will definitely pass waivers, because Detroit is eventually going to have to accept that no one is eating that full contract and they won't get any major prospects from it.

That said if this is all they get, sweet. I'll begrudgingly admit that if Lackey has re-discovered an extra couple miles on his fastball like yesterday he'll be serviceable the rest of the way, Kyle has looked effective even w the diminishing velocity, and adding Wilson to an already stellar pen means Joe could pull any struggling starters after just 3 or so innings and roll with Montgomery for a couple innings followed by Strop/Rondon, Uehara, Carl, Wilson, Davis.

[Quality Start Machine]

Wilson's also under control for next year.

This is a fucking heist.

[Canadouche]

Does Wilson constitute as a the "Miller-type" I was speculating that Theo would pursue?

[Quality Start Machine]

Does Wilson constitute as a the "Miller-type" I was speculating that Theo would pursue?

Not really. He's only gone more than one inning twice all season.

[CBStew]

Does Wilson constitute as a the "Miller-type" I was speculating that Theo would pursue?

Stu?

[SKO]

Does Wilson constitute as a the "Miller-type" I was speculating that Theo would pursue?

Not really. He's only gone more than one inning twice all season.

I mean, sure, he's a very good left handed reliever, but if you want to call all of those Andrew Miller that's about akin to Fork calling Tommy La Stella a "Zobrist-lite".

[Saul Goodman]

Does Wilson constitute as a the "Miller-type" I was speculating that Theo would pursue?

The whole constitute as a the?

[Canadouche]

Does Wilson constitute as a the "Miller-type" I was speculating that Theo would pursue?

Not really. He's only gone more than one inning twice all season.

Before he'd been traded to Cleveland last year, Miller had pitched 45.1 innings in 44 games. Even last year, in the regular season, he only pitched 3 more innings than games he'd appeared in. It wasn't until the playoffs that he began to be used in an unconventional way, which has spilled over into the new season where, this year, he's thrown 53.1 innings in 45 appearances. Miller was always a well-known amazing set up man/closer, but the unconventional way that he gets used is still pretty new for him. I bet that the Cubs will try to use Wilson in a similar way to how Cleveland now uses Miller, assuming he steps up and can handle the workload, and high leverage situations.

[Saul Goodman]

Does Wilson constitute as a the "Miller-type" I was speculating that Theo would pursue?

Not really. He's only gone more than one inning twice all season.

Before he'd been traded to Cleveland last year, Miller had pitched 45.1 innings in 44 games. Even last year, in the regular season, he only pitched 3 more innings than games he'd appeared in. It wasn't until the playoffs that he began to be used in an unconventional way, which has spilled over into the new season where, this year, he's thrown 53.1 innings in 45 appearances. Miller was always a well-known amazing set up man/closer, but the unconventional way that he gets used is still pretty new for him. I bet that the Cubs will try to use Wilson in a similar way to how Cleveland now uses Miller, assuming he steps up and can handle the workload, and high leverage situations.

Is this just because you really want to be right on the internet, or is there some indication besides Miller = lefty, Wilson = lefty, therefore Wilson = Miller that this is what the Cubs have in mind?

[SKO]

Does Wilson constitute as a the "Miller-type" I was speculating that Theo would pursue?

Not really. He's only gone more than one inning twice all season.

Before he'd been traded to Cleveland last year, Miller had pitched 45.1 innings in 44 games. Even last year, in the regular season, he only pitched 3 more innings than games he'd appeared in. It wasn't until the playoffs that he began to be used in an unconventional way, which has spilled over into the new season where, this year, he's thrown 53.1 innings in 45 appearances. Miller was always a well-known amazing set up man/closer, but the unconventional way that he gets used is still pretty new for him. I bet that the Cubs will try to use Wilson in a similar way to how Cleveland now uses Miller, assuming he steps up and can handle the workload, and high leverage situations.

Is this just because you really want to be right on the internet, or is there some indication besides Miller = lefty, Wilson = lefty, therefore Wilson = Miller that this is what the Cubs have in mind?

I mean Wilson has basically no platoon splits this year, could probably handle that role, there's also no reason for the Cubs to stretch him out like that with a bullpen that already ranked 2nd in the NL before this trade. Could we see him do that sh-t in October? Yeah, but I doubt Joe would feel the need to ask him to go more than one inning right now, when Mike Montgomery is a thing that exists.

[Oleg]

Does Wilson constitute as a the "Miller-type" I was speculating that Theo would pursue?

Not really. He's only gone more than one inning twice all season.

Before he'd been traded to Cleveland last year, Miller had pitched 45.1 innings in 44 games. Even last year, in the regular season, he only pitched 3 more innings than games he'd appeared in. It wasn't until the playoffs that he began to be used in an unconventional way, which has spilled over into the new season where, this year, he's thrown 53.1 innings in 45 appearances. Miller was always a well-known amazing set up man/closer, but the unconventional way that he gets used is still pretty new for him. I bet that the Cubs will try to use Wilson in a similar way to how Cleveland now uses Miller, assuming he steps up and can handle the workload, and high leverage situations.

See what happens when you use (the equivalent of) "might" and "could"?  Happy, Eli?

[Eli]

Happy, Eli?

Never.

[Saul Goodman]

The Brewers are getting Jeremy Jeffress back from Texas. Wrong: righted.

[SKO]

Sonny Gray: A Yankee.