Bearbonnais 2012: Emstink is Wonderful.

[Brownie]

Hub was on the Score yesterday telling B&B that Hester should not be playing receiver and that if anyone else returns a punt or kickoff this year it's a travesty of coaching. I disagree with this completely and believe that Hester will prove extremely valuable in the passing game once teams have to spend all their energy stopping Marshall and Forte. I have no empirical evidence to support my staunch belief in Devin Hester and Lovie Smith has human beings. But I have my asshurt. And that's quite a thing.

Hub is pretty much right in that if I had to pick one living human to return a punt or a kickoff, it would be Hester. Babe Ruth was a pretty good pitcher, but it so turned out that he was the best impact hitter the game had seen. Dick Butkus was a great high school fullback and I'm sure Urlacher could play tight end or fullback and in his prime he'd be better than Damian Shelton or Ryan Wetnight or whomever else they had out there. Hester's value is as a kick returner.

[Quality Start Machine]

Hub was on the Score yesterday telling B&B that Hester should not be playing receiver and that if anyone else returns a punt or kickoff this year it's a travesty of coaching. I disagree with this completely and believe that Hester will prove extremely valuable in the passing game once teams have to spend all their energy stopping Marshall and Forte. I have no empirical evidence to support my staunch belief in Devin Hester and Lovie Smith has human beings. But I have my asshurt. And that's quite a thing.

Hub is pretty much right in that if I had to pick one living human to return a punt or a kickoff, it would be Hester. Babe Ruth was a pretty good pitcher, but it so turned out that he was the best impact hitter the game had seen. Dick Butkus was a great high school fullback and I'm sure Urlacher could play tight end or fullback and in his prime he'd be better than Damian Shelton or Ryan Wetnight or whomever else they had out there. Hester's value is as a kick returner.

This. I doubt there's a coach anywhere in the NFL losing any sleep over Hester running patterns and catching passes.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Hub was on the Score yesterday telling B&B that Hester should not be playing receiver and that if anyone else returns a punt or kickoff this year it's a travesty of coaching. I disagree with this completely and believe that Hester will prove extremely valuable in the passing game once teams have to spend all their energy stopping Marshall and Forte. I have no empirical evidence to support my staunch belief in Devin Hester and Lovie Smith has human beings. But I have my asshurt. And that's quite a thing.

In his basement?

[Internet Apex]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

[Richard Chuggar]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

Well the fact that he's too stupid to memorize more than 2 plays probably doesn't help.  And he's a shitty route runner.  And doesn't have great hands.  Other than that, he's a solid receiver.  They'll just stick him in the slot (=)and throw 4 yard slants to him and hope he can run fast and far and not die.  Like Forrest Gump.  Who you remind me of other than the accomplishments he had and his love for white women.

[Brownie]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

Putting Hester out there with Bennett and Marshall and Jeffrey and Forte will create a coverage nightmare for anyone, but to think that Hester should be more than a situational receiver if it is at the expense of him returning kicks is wrong.

I suppose it could be all Dave Toub's kickoff and punt return packages and as long as you have someone who won't trip over his own feet you'll have a return threat. It's possible. But sure, let's see how it all plays out.

[Internet Apex]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

Putting Hester out there with Bennett and Marshall and Jeffrey and Forte will create a coverage nightmare for anyone, but to think that Hester should be more than a situational receiver if it is at the expense of him returning kicks is wrong.

I suppose it could be all Dave Toub's kickoff and punt return packages and as long as you have someone who won't trip over his own feet you'll have a return threat. It's possible. But sure, let's see how it all plays out.

Didn't Johnny Knox make the pro bowl as a KR and didn't Danielle Manning lead the league in average returns? Yesir. That's not to say that it's all Toub's system, but they brought in a talented guy in Weems to do that. I'm not in favor of making him more than a situational receiver but injuries may cause that to happen. I'm convinced he's going to be very good at it in a limited role this year and I can't wait to start a thread tearing you all apart, getting real personal and out of line.

[SKO]

The idea that Devin Hester's struggles at wide receiver or at kick returner were due to him being both is lame and doesn't hold water. The idea that Devin Hester wasn't good at playing receiver because he's not a good receiver has some merit. I think Devin Hester's an excellent situational receiver but am beyond glad that they have a GM in Emery who hasn't staked part of his career on the notion that he paid Hester like a #1 receiver and thus must force him into the lineup. Emery and everyone else can inflate Hester's ego all they want with the usual hubub about him being an All-Pro receiver, the important thing is that their actions say they're doing everything they can to avoid being reliant on anything other than mediocrity from Hester at that position. They traded for Marshall, spent a 2 on a guy who isn't your prototypical slot receiver, and extended Earl Bennett while they beefed up the kick returner position and Devin's nearing the end of his contract. Connect the dots, people.

[Brownie]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

Putting Hester out there with Bennett and Marshall and Jeffrey and Forte will create a coverage nightmare for anyone, but to think that Hester should be more than a situational receiver if it is at the expense of him returning kicks is wrong.

I suppose it could be all Dave Toub's kickoff and punt return packages and as long as you have someone who won't trip over his own feet you'll have a return threat. It's possible. But sure, let's see how it all plays out.

Didn't Johnny Knox make the pro bowl as a KR and didn't Danielle Manning lead the league in average returns? Yesir. That's not to say that it's all Toub's system, but they brought in a talented guy in Weems to do that. I'm not in favor of making him more than a situational receiver but injuries may cause that to happen. I'm convinced he's going to be very good at it in a limited role this year and I can't wait to start a thread tearing you all apart, getting real personal and out of line.

I wasn't being sarcastic with my remark about Toub because of Knox and Manning. Anyway, I hope Hester turns into a productive WR, but if I can't see him return kicks I'll be very sad.

[PenPho]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

Putting Hester out there with Bennett and Marshall and Jeffrey and Forte will create a coverage nightmare for anyone, but to think that Hester should be more than a situational receiver if it is at the expense of him returning kicks is wrong.

I suppose it could be all Dave Toub's kickoff and punt return packages and as long as you have someone who won't trip over his own feet you'll have a return threat. It's possible. But sure, let's see how it all plays out.

Didn't Johnny Knox make the pro bowl as a KR and didn't Danielle Manning lead the league in average returns? Yesir. That's not to say that it's all Toub's system, but they brought in a talented guy in Weems to do that. I'm not in favor of making him more than a situational receiver but injuries may cause that to happen. I'm convinced he's going to be very good at it in a limited role this year and I can't wait to start a thread tearing you all apart, getting real personal and out of line.

I wasn't being sarcastic with my remark about Toub because of Knox and Manning. Anyway, I hope Hester turns into a productive WR, but if I can't see him return kicks I'll be very sad.

I'm glad we now have two different threads (both started by Apex) to talk about the Bears #4 WR.

[Internet Apex]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

Putting Hester out there with Bennett and Marshall and Jeffrey and Forte will create a coverage nightmare for anyone, but to think that Hester should be more than a situational receiver if it is at the expense of him returning kicks is wrong.

I suppose it could be all Dave Toub's kickoff and punt return packages and as long as you have someone who won't trip over his own feet you'll have a return threat. It's possible. But sure, let's see how it all plays out.

Didn't Johnny Knox make the pro bowl as a KR and didn't Danielle Manning lead the league in average returns? Yesir. That's not to say that it's all Toub's system, but they brought in a talented guy in Weems to do that. I'm not in favor of making him more than a situational receiver but injuries may cause that to happen. I'm convinced he's going to be very good at it in a limited role this year and I can't wait to start a thread tearing you all apart, getting real personal and out of line.

I wasn't being sarcastic with my remark about Toub because of Knox and Manning. Anyway, I hope Hester turns into a productive WR, but if I can't see him return kicks I'll be very sad.

I'm glad we now have two different threads (both started by Apex) to talk about the Bears #4 WR.

He's the all-time leader in kick return touchdowns. He's worth a thread or two or three.

[Slaky]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

Putting Hester out there with Bennett and Marshall and Jeffrey and Forte will create a coverage nightmare for anyone, but to think that Hester should be more than a situational receiver if it is at the expense of him returning kicks is wrong.

I suppose it could be all Dave Toub's kickoff and punt return packages and as long as you have someone who won't trip over his own feet you'll have a return threat. It's possible. But sure, let's see how it all plays out.

Didn't Johnny Knox make the pro bowl as a KR and didn't Danielle Manning lead the league in average returns? Yesir. That's not to say that it's all Toub's system, but they brought in a talented guy in Weems to do that. I'm not in favor of making him more than a situational receiver but injuries may cause that to happen. I'm convinced he's going to be very good at it in a limited role this year and I can't wait to start a thread tearing you all apart, getting real personal and out of line.

I wasn't being sarcastic with my remark about Toub because of Knox and Manning. Anyway, I hope Hester turns into a productive WR, but if I can't see him return kicks I'll be very sad.

I'm glad we now have two different threads (both started by Apex) to talk about the Bears #4 WR.

He's the all-time leader in kick return touchdowns. He's worth a thread or two or three.

Pen should start a Steelers thread that no one can comment on instead.

[SKO]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

Putting Hester out there with Bennett and Marshall and Jeffrey and Forte will create a coverage nightmare for anyone, but to think that Hester should be more than a situational receiver if it is at the expense of him returning kicks is wrong.

I suppose it could be all Dave Toub's kickoff and punt return packages and as long as you have someone who won't trip over his own feet you'll have a return threat. It's possible. But sure, let's see how it all plays out.

Didn't Johnny Knox make the pro bowl as a KR and didn't Danielle Manning lead the league in average returns? Yesir. That's not to say that it's all Toub's system, but they brought in a talented guy in Weems to do that. I'm not in favor of making him more than a situational receiver but injuries may cause that to happen. I'm convinced he's going to be very good at it in a limited role this year and I can't wait to start a thread tearing you all apart, getting real personal and out of line.

I wasn't being sarcastic with my remark about Toub because of Knox and Manning. Anyway, I hope Hester turns into a productive WR, but if I can't see him return kicks I'll be very sad.

I'm glad we now have two different threads (both started by Apex) to talk about the Bears #4 WR.

He's the all-time leader in kick return touchdowns. He's worth a thread or two or three.

Pen should start a Steelers thread that no one can comment on instead.

I'm just glad these are the debates we're having. Instead of the "Hester shouldn't play receiver" crowd vs. the "Hester could so totally be a number one receiver (secretly crying inside)" debates, we're now arguing how often the Bears should throw to Hester the #4 receiver while Marshall and Alshon are busy combing for 123 yds in one half.

[PenPho]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

Putting Hester out there with Bennett and Marshall and Jeffrey and Forte will create a coverage nightmare for anyone, but to think that Hester should be more than a situational receiver if it is at the expense of him returning kicks is wrong.

I suppose it could be all Dave Toub's kickoff and punt return packages and as long as you have someone who won't trip over his own feet you'll have a return threat. It's possible. But sure, let's see how it all plays out.

Didn't Johnny Knox make the pro bowl as a KR and didn't Danielle Manning lead the league in average returns? Yesir. That's not to say that it's all Toub's system, but they brought in a talented guy in Weems to do that. I'm not in favor of making him more than a situational receiver but injuries may cause that to happen. I'm convinced he's going to be very good at it in a limited role this year and I can't wait to start a thread tearing you all apart, getting real personal and out of line.

I wasn't being sarcastic with my remark about Toub because of Knox and Manning. Anyway, I hope Hester turns into a productive WR, but if I can't see him return kicks I'll be very sad.

I'm glad we now have two different threads (both started by Apex) to talk about the Bears #4 WR.

He's the all-time leader in kick return touchdowns. He's worth a thread or two or three.

Pen should start a Steelers thread that no one can comment on instead.

I'll start my own thread for Steelers talk. It'll be on a different site. In a notebook I keep in my drawer. It's soaked with tears.

[PenPho]

If you have a player with Hester's ability to move and you don't try to get the ball in his hands on offense, you're doing something wrong. Now that the kickoffs are moved up, I really don't care who they put back there to watch it sail into the seats. And most teams punt away from Devin, or at least try. So, you've got a guy with that kind of ability and you leave it up to the other team to decide how many touches he gets in a game?

Fuck you. I don't like you.

Could be the problem was a lack of talent on offense that kept them from doing anything all that well in the passing game, or a lack of coaching from Turner, Martz et al. Could be that's all fixed now. We'll see how it plays out, won't we, smart guys?

Putting Hester out there with Bennett and Marshall and Jeffrey and Forte will create a coverage nightmare for anyone, but to think that Hester should be more than a situational receiver if it is at the expense of him returning kicks is wrong.

I suppose it could be all Dave Toub's kickoff and punt return packages and as long as you have someone who won't trip over his own feet you'll have a return threat. It's possible. But sure, let's see how it all plays out.

Didn't Johnny Knox make the pro bowl as a KR and didn't Danielle Manning lead the league in average returns? Yesir. That's not to say that it's all Toub's system, but they brought in a talented guy in Weems to do that. I'm not in favor of making him more than a situational receiver but injuries may cause that to happen. I'm convinced he's going to be very good at it in a limited role this year and I can't wait to start a thread tearing you all apart, getting real personal and out of line.

I wasn't being sarcastic with my remark about Toub because of Knox and Manning. Anyway, I hope Hester turns into a productive WR, but if I can't see him return kicks I'll be very sad.

I'm glad we now have two different threads (both started by Apex) to talk about the Bears #4 WR.

He's the all-time leader in kick return touchdowns. He's worth a thread or two or three.

Pen should start a Steelers thread that no one can comment on instead.

I'm just glad these are the debates we're having. Instead of the "Hester shouldn't play receiver" crowd vs. the "Hester could so totally be a number one receiver (secretly crying inside)" debates, we're now arguing how often the Bears should throw to Hester the #4 receiver while Marshall and Alshon are busy combing for 123 yds in one half.