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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #645 on: January 23, 2014, 10:32:40 AM »
Quote from: BH on January 23, 2014, 10:17:43 AM
Quote from: Fork on January 23, 2014, 10:15:55 AM
As Slak referred to, Jason Parks' BP Top 10:

The Top Ten

1.SS Javier Baez
2.3B Kris Bryant
3.CF Albert Almora
4.RF Jorge Soler
5.RHP C.J. Edwards
6.SS Arismendy Alcantara
7.RHP Pierce Johnson
8.1B Dan Vogelbach
9.3B Christian Villanueva
10.3B Jeimer Candelario


Alcantra made the biggest jump from 2012, where he wasn't even on the radar. Plus, Bryant and Edwards joining the organization caused some shifts - Almora went from 1 to 3, not because he got worse but because Bryant and Baez are that fucking good.



Parks also has Baez extreme comparison to Cabrera  - an overweight first basemen who is a dime a dozen grows on trees. Which isn't good.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #646 on: January 23, 2014, 10:43:51 AM »
I just realized that Baez had 35 extra-base hits in 240 AA plate appearances last year. Good God, man!
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #647 on: January 23, 2014, 10:47:00 AM »
Quote from: Fork on January 23, 2014, 10:15:55 AM
As Slak referred to, Jason Parks' BP Top 10:

The Top Ten

1.SS Javier Baez
2.3B Kris Bryant
3.CF Albert Almora
4.RF Jorge Soler
5.RHP C.J. Edwards
6.SS Arismendy Alcantara
7.RHP Pierce Johnson
8.1B Dan Vogelbach
9.3B Christian Villanueva
10.3B Jeimer Candelario


Alcantra made the biggest jump from 2012, where he wasn't even on the radar. Plus, Bryant and Edwards joining the organization caused some shifts - Almora went from 1 to 3, not because he got worse but because Bryant and Baez are that fucking good.
Which of these guys gets traded?  Vogelbach has DH written all over him  Alcantara has a possible logjam in front of him.

I suppose you could do:

Soler - LF
Bryant - RF
Almora - CF
Baez - 3B
Alcantara - 2B

But if Bryant stays at third, Baez stays at short and Alcantara can move to second, that makes it more and more likely that...

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #648 on: January 23, 2014, 10:47:55 AM »
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 10:43:51 AM
I just realized that Baez had 35 extra-base hits in 240 AA plate appearances last year. Good God, man!

Isn't AAA more of a hitters league, too? I think the PCL is like a network of Coors Fields. He's going destroy AAA pitching.

Also RE: Chuck's question - most of the projections have Bryant ending up in right field.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #649 on: January 23, 2014, 10:52:01 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on January 23, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 10:43:51 AM
I just realized that Baez had 35 extra-base hits in 240 AA plate appearances last year. Good God, man!

Isn't AAA more of a hitters league, too? I think the PCL is like a network of Coors Fields. He's going destroy AAA pitching.

Also RE: Chuck's question - most of the projections have Bryant ending up in right field.

I don't think Baez will stay at short. Remember Rizzo's contract is tradeable if they want to stick him there. If Alcantara's worth a shit, he could play short with Castro moving to second. Or maybe somebody puts a quarter in Starlin and Alcantara plays second. Bryant plays third. Soler in right. Almora in center. Some big fat tree of a free agent plays left.

World Series.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #650 on: January 23, 2014, 11:02:25 AM »
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 10:52:01 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 23, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 10:43:51 AM
I just realized that Baez had 35 extra-base hits in 240 AA plate appearances last year. Good God, man!

Isn't AAA more of a hitters league, too? I think the PCL is like a network of Coors Fields. He's going destroy AAA pitching.

Also RE: Chuck's question - most of the projections have Bryant ending up in right field.

I don't think Baez will stay at short. Remember Rizzo's contract is tradeable if they want to stick him there. If Alcantara's worth a shit, he could play short with Castro moving to second. Or maybe somebody puts a quarter in Starlin and Alcantara plays second. Bryant plays third. Soler in right. Almora in center. Some big fat tree of a free agent plays left.

World Series.

The ideal look would be something like Baez at third, Castro SS, Alcantara 2B, Rizzo 1B, LF Soler, CF Almora, RF Bryant.

Naturally only 1 or 2 of these things will work out in any meaningful way which is why Parks titled his prospect report Prospects Will Break Your Heart.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #651 on: January 23, 2014, 11:19:36 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on January 23, 2014, 11:02:25 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 10:52:01 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 23, 2014, 10:47:55 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 10:43:51 AM
I just realized that Baez had 35 extra-base hits in 240 AA plate appearances last year. Good God, man!

Isn't AAA more of a hitters league, too? I think the PCL is like a network of Coors Fields. He's going destroy AAA pitching.

Also RE: Chuck's question - most of the projections have Bryant ending up in right field.

I don't think Baez will stay at short. Remember Rizzo's contract is tradeable if they want to stick him there. If Alcantara's worth a shit, he could play short with Castro moving to second. Or maybe somebody puts a quarter in Starlin and Alcantara plays second. Bryant plays third. Soler in right. Almora in center. Some big fat tree of a free agent plays left.

World Series.

The ideal look would be something like Baez at third, Castro SS, Alcantara 2B, Rizzo 1B, LF Soler, CF Almora, RF Bryant.

Naturally only 1 or 2 of these things will work out in any meaningful way which is why Parks titled his prospect report Prospects Will Break Your Heart.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #652 on: January 23, 2014, 11:21:31 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on January 23, 2014, 11:02:25 AM
The ideal look would be something like Baez at third, Castro SS, Alcantara 2B, Rizzo 1B, LF Soler, CF Almora, RF Bryant.

Naturally only 1 or 2 of these things will work out in any meaningful way which is why Parks titled his prospect report Prospects Will Break Your Heart.

Right on. If two of those guys are All-Star-level and another 2-3 end up as solid regulars, that'd be a great result.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #653 on: January 23, 2014, 11:24:05 AM »
Quote from: Eli on January 23, 2014, 11:21:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on January 23, 2014, 11:02:25 AM
The ideal look would be something like Baez at third, Castro SS, Alcantara 2B, Rizzo 1B, LF Soler, CF Almora, RF Bryant.

Naturally only 1 or 2 of these things will work out in any meaningful way which is why Parks titled his prospect report Prospects Will Break Your Heart.

Right on. If two of those guys are All-Star-level and another 2-3 end up as solid regulars, that'd be a great result.

Plus, they're just keeping that OF seat warm until Eloy is ready. 
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #654 on: January 23, 2014, 11:27:05 AM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 23, 2014, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: Fork on January 23, 2014, 10:15:55 AM
As Slak referred to, Jason Parks' BP Top 10:

The Top Ten

1.SS Javier Baez
2.3B Kris Bryant
3.CF Albert Almora
4.RF Jorge Soler
5.RHP C.J. Edwards
6.SS Arismendy Alcantara
7.RHP Pierce Johnson
8.1B Dan Vogelbach
9.3B Christian Villanueva
10.3B Jeimer Candelario


Alcantra made the biggest jump from 2012, where he wasn't even on the radar. Plus, Bryant and Edwards joining the organization caused some shifts - Almora went from 1 to 3, not because he got worse but because Bryant and Baez are that fucking good.
Which of these guys gets traded?  Vogelbach has DH written all over him  Alcantara has a possible logjam in front of him.

I suppose you could do:

Soler - LF
Bryant - RF
Almora - CF
Baez - 3B
Alcantara - 2B

But if Bryant stays at third, Baez stays at short and Alcantara can move to second, that makes it more and more likely that...

Not sure why he listed Alcantra as a SS, he plays 2B.

Actually, I see Bryant forecast more as a LF, Soler has a real nice RF arm.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #655 on: January 23, 2014, 11:35:03 AM »
Quote from: Fork on January 23, 2014, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 23, 2014, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: Fork on January 23, 2014, 10:15:55 AM
As Slak referred to, Jason Parks' BP Top 10:

The Top Ten

1.SS Javier Baez
2.3B Kris Bryant
3.CF Albert Almora
4.RF Jorge Soler
5.RHP C.J. Edwards
6.SS Arismendy Alcantara
7.RHP Pierce Johnson
8.1B Dan Vogelbach
9.3B Christian Villanueva
10.3B Jeimer Candelario


Alcantra made the biggest jump from 2012, where he wasn't even on the radar. Plus, Bryant and Edwards joining the organization caused some shifts - Almora went from 1 to 3, not because he got worse but because Bryant and Baez are that fucking good.
Which of these guys gets traded?  Vogelbach has DH written all over him  Alcantara has a possible logjam in front of him.

I suppose you could do:

Soler - LF
Bryant - RF
Almora - CF
Baez - 3B
Alcantara - 2B

But if Bryant stays at third, Baez stays at short and Alcantara can move to second, that makes it more and more likely that...

Not sure why he listed Alcantra as a SS, he plays 2B.

Actually, I see Bryant forecast more as a LF, Soler has a real nice RF arm.

Alcantara played 66 games at short last year at Tennessee and played nearly all his games there at Daytona the year before. I have no scouting report on his defense. It looks like he moved to second when Baez got promoted last year on his way to 4,192 errors.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #656 on: January 23, 2014, 11:40:05 AM »
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 11:35:03 AM
It looks like he moved to second when Baez got promoted last year on his way to 4,192 errors.

4,192 of the most badass errors you'll ever see.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #657 on: January 23, 2014, 11:41:25 AM »
Quote from: Eli on January 23, 2014, 11:40:05 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 11:35:03 AM
It looks like he moved to second when Baez got promoted last year on his way to 4,192 errors.

4,192 of the most badass errors you'll ever see.

And I didn't see any of them so they may be just an internet rumor like Masahiro Tanaka.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #658 on: January 23, 2014, 11:42:40 AM »
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 23, 2014, 11:40:05 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 11:35:03 AM
It looks like he moved to second when Baez got promoted last year on his way to 4,192 errors.

4,192 of the most badass errors you'll ever see.

And I didn't see any of them so they may be just an internet rumor like Masahiro Tanaka.

Mostly throwing errors. See what happens once he's throwing to Rizzo.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #659 on: January 23, 2014, 11:44:28 AM »
Quote from: Fork on January 23, 2014, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 11:41:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 23, 2014, 11:40:05 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 23, 2014, 11:35:03 AM
It looks like he moved to second when Baez got promoted last year on his way to 4,192 errors.

4,192 of the most badass errors you'll ever see.

And I didn't see any of them so they may be just an internet rumor like Masahiro Tanaka.

Mostly throwing errors. See what happens once he's throwing to Rizzo.

He'll be flipping underhand to pitchers covering mostly. Rizzo will be traded for Price.
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