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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1950 on: January 30, 2015, 11:55:57 AM »
Law's full top 10 for the Cubs is out.

1. Kris Bryant
2. Addison Russell
3. Jorge Soler
4. Kyle Schwarber
5. Gleybar Torres (!!)
6. Billy McKinney
7. Albert Almora
8. Duane Underwood
9. C.J. Edwards
10. Jen-Ho Tseng

Pretty nice to see 3 pitches on the list, especially when Pierce Johnson isn't one of them. 

Crazy to see Gleybar that high.
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Man, with the top 4 moving up this year, they're going to have no one left after this year in the minors.  WHERE ARE DA WAVES OF TALENT EPSTINK?!

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1951 on: January 30, 2015, 12:03:20 PM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 30, 2015, 11:55:57 AM
Law's full top 10 for the Cubs is out.

1. Kris Bryant
2. Addison Russell
3. Jorge Soler
4. Kyle Schwarber
5. Gleybar Torres (!!)
6. Billy McKinney
7. Albert Almora
8. Duane Underwood
9. C.J. Edwards
10. Jen-Ho Tseng

Pretty nice to see 3 pitches on the list, especially when Pierce Johnson isn't one of them. 

Crazy to see Gleybar that high.
Man, with the top 4 moving up this year, they're going to have no one left after this year in the minors.  WHERE ARE DA WAVES OF TALENT EPSTINK?!

DOOM!
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1952 on: January 30, 2015, 12:41:53 PM »
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
I always forget about Billy McKinney. Seems like he actually has a future. Why, he may even be the Matt Murton of this trade.

I like McKinney because his name sounds like a player in an old-timey baseball movie, so he'll probably be pretty good.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1953 on: January 30, 2015, 01:05:30 PM »
Quote from: Eli on January 30, 2015, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
I always forget about Billy McKinney. Seems like he actually has a future. Why, he may even be the Matt Murton of this trade.

I like McKinney because his name sounds like a player in an old-timey baseball movie, so he'll probably be pretty good.

Also because he's Matt Murton.

Murton at A+: .292/.364/.437 with 13 homers in 126 games
McKinney A+: .264/.354/.412 with 11 homers in 126 games
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1954 on: January 30, 2015, 02:00:20 PM »
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 30, 2015, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
I always forget about Billy McKinney. Seems like he actually has a future. Why, he may even be the Matt Murton of this trade.

I like McKinney because his name sounds like a player in an old-timey baseball movie, so he'll probably be pretty good.

Also because he's Matt Murton.

Murton at A+: .292/.364/.437 with 13 homers in 126 games
McKinney A+: .264/.354/.412 with 11 homers in 126 games

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1955 on: January 30, 2015, 02:19:15 PM »
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 30, 2015, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
I always forget about Billy McKinney. Seems like he actually has a future. Why, he may even be the Matt Murton of this trade.

I like McKinney because his name sounds like a player in an old-timey baseball movie, so he'll probably be pretty good.

Also because he's Matt Murton.

Murton at A+: .292/.364/.437 with 13 homers in 126 games
McKinney A+: .264/.354/.412 with 11 homers in 126 games

.264 is a lot smaller than .292.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1956 on: January 30, 2015, 02:33:59 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on January 30, 2015, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 30, 2015, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
I always forget about Billy McKinney. Seems like he actually has a future. Why, he may even be the Matt Murton of this trade.

I like McKinney because his name sounds like a player in an old-timey baseball movie, so he'll probably be pretty good.

Also because he's Matt Murton.

Murton at A+: .292/.364/.437 with 13 homers in 126 games
McKinney A+: .264/.354/.412 with 11 homers in 126 games

.264 is a lot smaller than .292.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1957 on: January 30, 2015, 02:37:11 PM »
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 30, 2015, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
I always forget about Billy McKinney. Seems like he actually has a future. Why, he may even be the Matt Murton of this trade.

I like McKinney because his name sounds like a player in an old-timey baseball movie, so he'll probably be pretty good.

Also because he's Matt Murton.

Murton at A+: Age: 22 .292/.364/.437 with 13 homers in 126 games
McKinney A+: Age 19 .264/.354/.412 with 11 homers in 126 games

Not-that-you're-being-serious-but-still'd

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1958 on: January 30, 2015, 02:40:07 PM »
Quote from: Eli on January 30, 2015, 02:37:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 30, 2015, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 30, 2015, 11:41:27 AM
I always forget about Billy McKinney. Seems like he actually has a future. Why, he may even be the Matt Murton of this trade.

I like McKinney because his name sounds like a player in an old-timey baseball movie, so he'll probably be pretty good.

Also because he's Matt Murton.

Murton at A+: Age: 22 .292/.364/.437 with 13 homers in 126 games
McKinney A+: Age 19 .264/.354/.412 with 11 homers in 126 games

Not-that-you're-being-serious-but-still'd

I'm not being serious at all and am aware McKinley is a much more highly regarded prospect but I also think there are worse things than McKinney possibly having 2006 Murton's bat and not being an absolute butcher in the field if that scenario actually did come to pass, given how much has changed since 2006 as far as what qualifies as good offense from a corner OF spot.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1959 on: January 30, 2015, 03:30:37 PM »
Can't wait for Torres to make it so we can say Wrigley Field is the world's biggest Gleybar.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1960 on: January 30, 2015, 03:49:21 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on January 30, 2015, 03:30:37 PM
Can't wait for Torres to make it so we can say Wrigley Field is the world's biggest Gleybar.

I put the odds of Gleybar ever appearing in a Cubs uniform in the majors at very slim, but your joke amused me.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1961 on: February 06, 2015, 01:56:42 PM »
Someone make me feel better about this:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/kris-bryants-one-offensive-question-mark/

Eli, don't read it.

QuoteIn Triple-A, Bryant also batted just shy of 300 times. He posted a contact rate a hair under 65%, according to the same site. Among players for whom we have data, this was the fourth-lowest contact rate at the level. Somewhat incredibly, fewer than two percentage points separated Bryant and Javier Baez. Fewer than two percentage points separated Bryant and Brett Jackson.

QuoteBryant's Triple-A contact rate ranks 25th-lowest since 2008.

What do we do?

EDIT: Oh.

QuoteIt helps tremendously that Bryant is powerful to all fields. It helps that, even though he hits a ton of fly balls, he only very seldom pops the ball up. Bryant makes a poor amount of contact, but with great and borderline unparalleled quality of contact, and this is the same conversation we've had about Springer. Yet given Bryant's age, it's possible he won't keep whiffing. Though it's unusual to go from being a swing-and-miss hitter to being a contact hitter, Bryant doesn't necessarily have to whiff as much as Chris Davis. This is the fun comp: as a rookie in his early 20s, Mike Schmidt struck out 31% of the time. The rest of his career, he struck out just 18% of the time. Aramis Ramirez figured contact out, although he was terribly rushed.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1962 on: February 06, 2015, 02:06:15 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on February 06, 2015, 01:56:42 PM
Someone make me feel better about this:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/kris-bryants-one-offensive-question-mark/

Eli, don't read it.

QuoteIn Triple-A, Bryant also batted just shy of 300 times. He posted a contact rate a hair under 65%, according to the same site. Among players for whom we have data, this was the fourth-lowest contact rate at the level. Somewhat incredibly, fewer than two percentage points separated Bryant and Javier Baez. Fewer than two percentage points separated Bryant and Brett Jackson.

QuoteBryant's Triple-A contact rate ranks 25th-lowest since 2008.

What do we do?

EDIT: Oh.

QuoteIt helps tremendously that Bryant is powerful to all fields. It helps that, even though he hits a ton of fly balls, he only very seldom pops the ball up. Bryant makes a poor amount of contact, but with great and borderline unparalleled quality of contact, and this is the same conversation we've had about Springer. Yet given Bryant's age, it's possible he won't keep whiffing. Though it's unusual to go from being a swing-and-miss hitter to being a contact hitter, Bryant doesn't necessarily have to whiff as much as Chris Davis. This is the fun comp: as a rookie in his early 20s, Mike Schmidt struck out 31% of the time. The rest of his career, he struck out just 18% of the time. Aramis Ramirez figured contact out, although he was terribly rushed.



Look, Kris Bryant is going to win 2-3 MVPs and make the Hall of Fame.

He'll probably end up with a career WAR of about 90.

I'm not sure why we have to keep talking about this.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1963 on: February 06, 2015, 02:15:38 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on February 06, 2015, 02:06:15 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 06, 2015, 01:56:42 PM
Someone make me feel better about this:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/kris-bryants-one-offensive-question-mark/

Eli, don't read it.

QuoteIn Triple-A, Bryant also batted just shy of 300 times. He posted a contact rate a hair under 65%, according to the same site. Among players for whom we have data, this was the fourth-lowest contact rate at the level. Somewhat incredibly, fewer than two percentage points separated Bryant and Javier Baez. Fewer than two percentage points separated Bryant and Brett Jackson.

QuoteBryant's Triple-A contact rate ranks 25th-lowest since 2008.

What do we do?

EDIT: Oh.

QuoteIt helps tremendously that Bryant is powerful to all fields. It helps that, even though he hits a ton of fly balls, he only very seldom pops the ball up. Bryant makes a poor amount of contact, but with great and borderline unparalleled quality of contact, and this is the same conversation we've had about Springer. Yet given Bryant's age, it's possible he won't keep whiffing. Though it's unusual to go from being a swing-and-miss hitter to being a contact hitter, Bryant doesn't necessarily have to whiff as much as Chris Davis. This is the fun comp: as a rookie in his early 20s, Mike Schmidt struck out 31% of the time. The rest of his career, he struck out just 18% of the time. Aramis Ramirez figured contact out, although he was terribly rushed.



Look, Kris Bryant is going to win 2-3 MVPs and make the Hall of Fame.

He'll probably end up with a career WAR of about 90.

I'm not sure why we have to keep talking about this.


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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #1964 on: February 06, 2015, 03:05:20 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on February 06, 2015, 01:56:42 PM
Someone make me feel better about this:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/kris-bryants-one-offensive-question-mark/

Eli, don't read it.

QuoteIn Triple-A, Bryant also batted just shy of 300 times. He posted a contact rate a hair under 65%, according to the same site. Among players for whom we have data, this was the fourth-lowest contact rate at the level. Somewhat incredibly, fewer than two percentage points separated Bryant and Javier Baez. Fewer than two percentage points separated Bryant and Brett Jackson.

QuoteBryant's Triple-A contact rate ranks 25th-lowest since 2008.

What do we do?

EDIT: Oh.

QuoteIt helps tremendously that Bryant is powerful to all fields. It helps that, even though he hits a ton of fly balls, he only very seldom pops the ball up. Bryant makes a poor amount of contact, but with great and borderline unparalleled quality of contact, and this is the same conversation we've had about Springer. Yet given Bryant's age, it's possible he won't keep whiffing. Though it's unusual to go from being a swing-and-miss hitter to being a contact hitter, Bryant doesn't necessarily have to whiff as much as Chris Davis. This is the fun comp: as a rookie in his early 20s, Mike Schmidt struck out 31% of the time. The rest of his career, he struck out just 18% of the time. Aramis Ramirez figured contact out, although he was terribly rushed.



Well they mention Jim Thome as a dude who did kinda the same thing and turned out to be really, really good. Also guys could, like, improve and stuff. I hear tell that's happened once or twice.
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