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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2010 on: February 19, 2015, 02:46:04 PM »
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I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be your anger level if My Colt gets off to a hot start at 3B, and the Cubs just decide to see how long it takes him to fizzle out before calling up Bryant in order to see if they can put of Bryant's super 2 and make Olt a decent chip at the trade deadline.

Gonna stress that this is a hypothetical because Olt blows, but I am curious if you'd be mad either way, because I can certainly understand just wanting Bryant up as soon as possible regardless.

Eh. Probably depends. In a vacuum it would bother me because Super 2 shouldn't be that big of a deal to a team like the Cubs, but it would depend on how the team is doing and how Bryant is performing in the minors.

You don't think the Cubs have a date predetermined for Bryant's callup, barring injury?

No I think Eli was responding to my hypothetical where Olt plays well and potentially pushes that predetermined date back by introducing a new variable.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2011 on: February 19, 2015, 02:52:30 PM »
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 19, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be your anger level if My Colt gets off to a hot start at 3B, and the Cubs just decide to see how long it takes him to fizzle out before calling up Bryant in order to see if they can put of Bryant's super 2 and make Olt a decent chip at the trade deadline.

Gonna stress that this is a hypothetical because Olt blows, but I am curious if you'd be mad either way, because I can certainly understand just wanting Bryant up as soon as possible regardless.

In your scenario, how's Bryant doing at AAA? Same or better as last year?

If Olt was OPSing 900 I might leave him playing until I could trade him or he sunk under 900.  I'd figure once he fell below 900, 600 would be coming quickly.

This sentence is great. If Mike Olt manages an OPS of 775 he'd be a valuable trade piece. There wasn't a single 3B in all of baseball who OPS'd over 900 last year.

So in other words if Olt was performing, offensively, higher than every other 3rd baseman, Chuck might leave him there...or trade him.  

I mean, I know the odds of Olt producing an OPS of even .700 are pretty remote, so this is largely academic.  Still, what an amazing glimpse into Chucktown.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2012 on: February 19, 2015, 02:59:50 PM »
Quote from: R-V on February 19, 2015, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 19, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
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I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be your anger level if My Colt gets off to a hot start at 3B, and the Cubs just decide to see how long it takes him to fizzle out before calling up Bryant in order to see if they can put of Bryant's super 2 and make Olt a decent chip at the trade deadline.

Gonna stress that this is a hypothetical because Olt blows, but I am curious if you'd be mad either way, because I can certainly understand just wanting Bryant up as soon as possible regardless.

In your scenario, how's Bryant doing at AAA? Same or better as last year?

If Olt was OPSing 900 I might leave him playing until I could trade him or he sunk under 900.  I'd figure once he fell below 900, 600 would be coming quickly.

Each time he stepped to the plate, he'd be 150% of the way to CEO (Chuck's Expected OPS). Amazing.

Well, he did OPS 604 last year.  I'd expect some regression for him.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2013 on: February 19, 2015, 03:09:28 PM »
Quote from: PANK! on February 19, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 19, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be your anger level if My Colt gets off to a hot start at 3B, and the Cubs just decide to see how long it takes him to fizzle out before calling up Bryant in order to see if they can put of Bryant's super 2 and make Olt a decent chip at the trade deadline.

Gonna stress that this is a hypothetical because Olt blows, but I am curious if you'd be mad either way, because I can certainly understand just wanting Bryant up as soon as possible regardless.

In your scenario, how's Bryant doing at AAA? Same or better as last year?

If Olt was OPSing 900 I might leave him playing until I could trade him or he sunk under 900.  I'd figure once he fell below 900, 600 would be coming quickly.

This sentence is great. If Mike Olt manages an OPS of 775 he'd be a valuable trade piece. There wasn't a single 3B in all of baseball who OPS'd over 900 last year.

So in other words if Olt was performing, offensively, higher than every other 3rd baseman, Chuck might leave him there...or trade him.  

I mean, I know the odds of Olt producing an OPS of even .700 are pretty remote, so this is largely academic.  Still, what an amazing glimpse into Chucktown.

THIS.

I will run through Lincoln Park buck naked with "FUCK RAHM" painted on my ass if Olt is over .700 on April 15.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2014 on: February 19, 2015, 03:11:39 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on February 19, 2015, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 19, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 02:29:34 PM
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Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be your anger level if My Colt gets off to a hot start at 3B, and the Cubs just decide to see how long it takes him to fizzle out before calling up Bryant in order to see if they can put of Bryant's super 2 and make Olt a decent chip at the trade deadline.

Gonna stress that this is a hypothetical because Olt blows, but I am curious if you'd be mad either way, because I can certainly understand just wanting Bryant up as soon as possible regardless.

In your scenario, how's Bryant doing at AAA? Same or better as last year?

If Olt was OPSing 900 I might leave him playing until I could trade him or he sunk under 900.  I'd figure once he fell below 900, 600 would be coming quickly.

This sentence is great. If Mike Olt manages an OPS of 775 he'd be a valuable trade piece. There wasn't a single 3B in all of baseball who OPS'd over 900 last year.

So in other words if Olt was performing, offensively, higher than every other 3rd baseman, Chuck might leave him there...or trade him.  

I mean, I know the odds of Olt producing an OPS of even .700 are pretty remote, so this is largely academic.  Still, what an amazing glimpse into Chucktown.

THIS.

I will run through Lincoln Park buck naked with "FUCK RAHM" painted on my ass if Olt is over .700 on April 15.



I've never wanted a guy who's getting traded anyway to spend two weeks channelling Babe Ruth more than right now.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2015 on: February 19, 2015, 03:32:54 PM »
Quote from: Fork on February 19, 2015, 10:45:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

It's not a firm number though, is it? I thought it depended on other callups for this season. So I'd think they'd want to make sure there's a little cushion if that's the case.

The Super 2 cutoff is variable and dependent on other teams' call-ups. But that would be late summer in any event and should be off the table barring any crazy revision to the Official Desipio Prospect Development Roadmap.

Any call-up before then is purely about service time. Namely, about keeping his total time on the 25-man in 2015 under 172 days.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2016 on: February 19, 2015, 03:43:56 PM »
Quote from: Fork on February 19, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 19, 2015, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 19, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 19, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be your anger level if My Colt gets off to a hot start at 3B, and the Cubs just decide to see how long it takes him to fizzle out before calling up Bryant in order to see if they can put of Bryant's super 2 and make Olt a decent chip at the trade deadline.

Gonna stress that this is a hypothetical because Olt blows, but I am curious if you'd be mad either way, because I can certainly understand just wanting Bryant up as soon as possible regardless.

In your scenario, how's Bryant doing at AAA? Same or better as last year?

If Olt was OPSing 900 I might leave him playing until I could trade him or he sunk under 900.  I'd figure once he fell below 900, 600 would be coming quickly.

This sentence is great. If Mike Olt manages an OPS of 775 he'd be a valuable trade piece. There wasn't a single 3B in all of baseball who OPS'd over 900 last year.

So in other words if Olt was performing, offensively, higher than every other 3rd baseman, Chuck might leave him there...or trade him.  

I mean, I know the odds of Olt producing an OPS of even .700 are pretty remote, so this is largely academic.  Still, what an amazing glimpse into Chucktown.

THIS.

I will run through Lincoln Park buck naked with "FUCK RAHM" painted on my ass if Olt is over .700 on April 15.



I've never wanted a guy who's getting traded anyway to spend two weeks channelling Babe Ruth more than right now.

For the Record Olt's OPS on April 16th of last year was .706. He also managed a .738 OPS in Sept/October after he was called up. So I hope Apex has at least logged some gym time.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2017 on: February 19, 2015, 03:49:27 PM »
Loor and I came acrossks like opatoets.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2018 on: February 19, 2015, 03:50:03 PM »
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 02:46:04 PM
Quote from: Fork on February 19, 2015, 02:44:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 12:16:20 PM
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Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be your anger level if My Colt gets off to a hot start at 3B, and the Cubs just decide to see how long it takes him to fizzle out before calling up Bryant in order to see if they can put of Bryant's super 2 and make Olt a decent chip at the trade deadline.

Gonna stress that this is a hypothetical because Olt blows, but I am curious if you'd be mad either way, because I can certainly understand just wanting Bryant up as soon as possible regardless.

Eh. Probably depends. In a vacuum it would bother me because Super 2 shouldn't be that big of a deal to a team like the Cubs, but it would depend on how the team is doing and how Bryant is performing in the minors.

You don't think the Cubs have a date predetermined for Bryant's callup, barring injury?

No I think Eli was responding to my hypothetical where Olt plays well and potentially pushes that predetermined date back by introducing a new variable.

Correct. The Cubs should already know exactly what day Bryant can be called up.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2019 on: February 19, 2015, 03:54:54 PM »
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: Fork on February 19, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 19, 2015, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 19, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 19, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be your anger level if My Colt gets off to a hot start at 3B, and the Cubs just decide to see how long it takes him to fizzle out before calling up Bryant in order to see if they can put of Bryant's super 2 and make Olt a decent chip at the trade deadline.

Gonna stress that this is a hypothetical because Olt blows, but I am curious if you'd be mad either way, because I can certainly understand just wanting Bryant up as soon as possible regardless.

In your scenario, how's Bryant doing at AAA? Same or better as last year?

If Olt was OPSing 900 I might leave him playing until I could trade him or he sunk under 900.  I'd figure once he fell below 900, 600 would be coming quickly.

This sentence is great. If Mike Olt manages an OPS of 775 he'd be a valuable trade piece. There wasn't a single 3B in all of baseball who OPS'd over 900 last year.

So in other words if Olt was performing, offensively, higher than every other 3rd baseman, Chuck might leave him there...or trade him.  

I mean, I know the odds of Olt producing an OPS of even .700 are pretty remote, so this is largely academic.  Still, what an amazing glimpse into Chucktown.

THIS.

I will run through Lincoln Park buck naked with "FUCK RAHM" painted on my ass if Olt is over .700 on April 15.



I've never wanted a guy who's getting traded anyway to spend two weeks channelling Babe Ruth more than right now.

For the Record Olt's OPS on April 16th of last year was .706. He also managed a .738 OPS in Sept/October after he was called up. So I hope Apex has at least logged some gym time.

His OPS dropped from .762 on April 22nd to .589 on April 30th.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2020 on: February 19, 2015, 03:57:54 PM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 19, 2015, 03:54:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: Fork on February 19, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 19, 2015, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 19, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 19, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be your anger level if My Colt gets off to a hot start at 3B, and the Cubs just decide to see how long it takes him to fizzle out before calling up Bryant in order to see if they can put of Bryant's super 2 and make Olt a decent chip at the trade deadline.

Gonna stress that this is a hypothetical because Olt blows, but I am curious if you'd be mad either way, because I can certainly understand just wanting Bryant up as soon as possible regardless.

In your scenario, how's Bryant doing at AAA? Same or better as last year?

If Olt was OPSing 900 I might leave him playing until I could trade him or he sunk under 900.  I'd figure once he fell below 900, 600 would be coming quickly.

This sentence is great. If Mike Olt manages an OPS of 775 he'd be a valuable trade piece. There wasn't a single 3B in all of baseball who OPS'd over 900 last year.

So in other words if Olt was performing, offensively, higher than every other 3rd baseman, Chuck might leave him there...or trade him.  

I mean, I know the odds of Olt producing an OPS of even .700 are pretty remote, so this is largely academic.  Still, what an amazing glimpse into Chucktown.

THIS.

I will run through Lincoln Park buck naked with "FUCK RAHM" painted on my ass if Olt is over .700 on April 15.



I've never wanted a guy who's getting traded anyway to spend two weeks channelling Babe Ruth more than right now.

For the Record Olt's OPS on April 16th of last year was .706. He also managed a .738 OPS in Sept/October after he was called up. So I hope Apex has at least logged some gym time.

His OPS dropped from .762 on April 22nd to .589 on April 30th.

What are we even talking about?

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2021 on: February 19, 2015, 04:09:08 PM »
Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 03:57:54 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 19, 2015, 03:54:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 03:43:56 PM
Quote from: Fork on February 19, 2015, 03:11:39 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on February 19, 2015, 03:09:28 PM
Quote from: PANK! on February 19, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 02:29:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 19, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on February 19, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on February 19, 2015, 09:45:08 AM
I'd like to think that they'll just call up Bryant whenever his service-time obligations are met, whether that's for a road or home game.

Just as a hypothetical, what would be your anger level if My Colt gets off to a hot start at 3B, and the Cubs just decide to see how long it takes him to fizzle out before calling up Bryant in order to see if they can put of Bryant's super 2 and make Olt a decent chip at the trade deadline.

Gonna stress that this is a hypothetical because Olt blows, but I am curious if you'd be mad either way, because I can certainly understand just wanting Bryant up as soon as possible regardless.

In your scenario, how's Bryant doing at AAA? Same or better as last year?

If Olt was OPSing 900 I might leave him playing until I could trade him or he sunk under 900.  I'd figure once he fell below 900, 600 would be coming quickly.

This sentence is great. If Mike Olt manages an OPS of 775 he'd be a valuable trade piece. There wasn't a single 3B in all of baseball who OPS'd over 900 last year.

So in other words if Olt was performing, offensively, higher than every other 3rd baseman, Chuck might leave him there...or trade him.  

I mean, I know the odds of Olt producing an OPS of even .700 are pretty remote, so this is largely academic.  Still, what an amazing glimpse into Chucktown.

THIS.

I will run through Lincoln Park buck naked with "FUCK RAHM" painted on my ass if Olt is over .700 on April 15.



I've never wanted a guy who's getting traded anyway to spend two weeks channelling Babe Ruth more than right now.

For the Record Olt's OPS on April 16th of last year was .706. He also managed a .738 OPS in Sept/October after he was called up. So I hope Apex has at least logged some gym time.

His OPS dropped from .762 on April 22nd to .589 on April 30th.

What are we even talking about?

I have no idea what point Chuck is trying to make I'm just saying there's a moderate chance Apex is arrested for streaking this year. I mean if he'd taken Chuck's original ludicrous 900 ops as his benchmark for nudity he'd probably be safe but saying Olt can't put up a replacement level OPS for a week and a half of big league games at the cost of public nudity was perhaps foolhardy.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2022 on: February 19, 2015, 04:57:22 PM »
If I didn't WANT to run naked through Lincoln Park, I wouldn't have made such a stupid bet. Olt's solid. This should go well up until the point that I welch on the bet by blaring Linkin Park through my bedroom and running around with all kinds of crazy messages inscribed on my derriere. I once threatened to run through Grant Park naked with "FUCK DALY" painted on my ass if the Bears lost to Brian Griese's Tampa Bay Bucs. Then that happened and I turtled.

Anyway. What were we talking about?
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2023 on: February 19, 2015, 05:53:35 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on February 19, 2015, 04:57:22 PM
If I didn't WANT to run naked through Lincoln Park, I wouldn't have made such a stupid bet. Olt's solid. This should go well up until the point that I welch on the bet by blaring Linkin Park through my bedroom and running around with all kinds of crazy messages inscribed on my derriere. I once threatened to run through Grant Park naked with "FUCK DALY" painted on my ass if the Bears lost to Brian Griese's Tampa Bay Bucs. Then that happened and I turtled.

Anyway. What were we talking about?

Too bad.  I would have loved seeing some meatball mis-spelling the mayor's name on his derriere as he pranced around the museum campus.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2024 on: February 19, 2015, 09:05:59 PM »
BA's Top 100 is out.

Schwarber at 20 19.  Soler at 14 12. Russell at 3.  Bryant at 1.

Edwards in the top 50.  McKinney in the top 100.

No Almora. No Tseng. No Torres.  No Johnson.  All were mentioned int he 'just missed' paragraph.