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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2130 on: April 02, 2015, 01:57:00 PM »
Quote from: Fork on April 02, 2015, 12:51:01 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 02, 2015, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 02, 2015, 09:58:28 AM
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Quote from: SKO on April 02, 2015, 08:31:31 AM
Let's all take about how Jorge Soler is a living God.

I'd join his cult.

Holy crap, that contact.

PS, is Soler even a prospect anymore? He's...what, good? Yeah, he's fucking good.

Oh he's still a prospect. He only played, what, 24 major league games last year? I think he's even still eligible for ROTY. Meaning he and Bryant will split the vote and some undeserving asshole will get it.

That's not what happened in 1989.

You could put Dwight Smith on Jerome Walton's shoulders and you still wouldn't get Jorge Soler.

Just don't put Jerome on to Dwight's shoulders 6 months after he won the ROY.  Pretty sure the 30 pounds JW put on that offseason on his way out of the league in 5 years would've crushed  Smith's shoulders, thus denying us his right-handed-pitching-dominance and circus-like comedic defensive play in Center Field on the whelming '93 Cubs.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2131 on: April 02, 2015, 03:29:29 PM »
Man...looking at the 1989 awards is kind of depressing.

But, Lonnie Smith was a 9 win player in 1989.  Who knew?

Brett Saberhagen was a 10 win player.

Gregg Jefferies finished 3rd in the ROY voting in '89.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2132 on: April 02, 2015, 03:56:25 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on April 02, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Man...looking at the 1989 awards is kind of depressing.

But, Lonnie Smith was a 9 win player in 1989.  Who knew?

Brett Saberhagen was a 10 win player.

Gregg Jefferies finished 3rd in the ROY voting in '89.

Great, here comes Apex.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2133 on: April 02, 2015, 04:01:28 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on April 02, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Man...looking at the 1989 awards is kind of depressing.

But, Lonnie Smith was a 9 win player in 1989.  Who knew?

Brett Saberhagen was a 10 win player.

Gregg Jefferies finished 3rd in the ROY voting in '89.

Jefferies was the 1988/89 version of Kris Bryant. Not saying they'll have the same outcome, but Jefferies was every bit as much of a can't miss.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2134 on: April 02, 2015, 04:05:27 PM »
Quote from: Fork on April 02, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 02, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Man...looking at the 1989 awards is kind of depressing.

But, Lonnie Smith was a 9 win player in 1989.  Who knew?

Brett Saberhagen was a 10 win player.

Gregg Jefferies finished 3rd in the ROY voting in '89.

Jefferies was the 1988/89 version of Kris Bryant. Not saying they'll have the same outcome, but Jefferies was every bit as much of a can't miss.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2135 on: April 02, 2015, 04:19:43 PM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 02, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: Fork on April 02, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 02, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Man...looking at the 1989 awards is kind of depressing.

But, Lonnie Smith was a 9 win player in 1989.  Who knew?

Brett Saberhagen was a 10 win player.

Gregg Jefferies finished 3rd in the ROY voting in '89.

Jefferies was the 1988/89 version of Kris Bryant. Not saying they'll have the same outcome, but Jefferies was every bit as much of a can't miss.

Todd Ziele

yeah we can just stop this game now. It sucks.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2136 on: April 02, 2015, 04:32:39 PM »
Former FUTUREBONER Arodys Vizcaino popped for PEDs - 80 game suspension. 

La Stella looking awfully good right now.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2137 on: April 02, 2015, 04:45:37 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on April 02, 2015, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 02, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Man...looking at the 1989 awards is kind of depressing.

But, Lonnie Smith was a 9 win player in 1989.  Who knew?

Brett Saberhagen was a 10 win player.

Gregg Jefferies finished 3rd in the ROY voting in '89.

Great, here comes Apex.

I forget how I feel about Gregg Jefferies.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2138 on: April 02, 2015, 04:46:08 PM »
Quote from: SKO on April 02, 2015, 04:19:43 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 02, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: Fork on April 02, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 02, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Man...looking at the 1989 awards is kind of depressing.

But, Lonnie Smith was a 9 win player in 1989.  Who knew?

Brett Saberhagen was a 10 win player.

Gregg Jefferies finished 3rd in the ROY voting in '89.

Jefferies was the 1988/89 version of Kris Bryant. Not saying they'll have the same outcome, but Jefferies was every bit as much of a can't miss.

Todd Ziele

yeah we can just stop this game now. It sucks.

Not only does this game suck but it's completely irrelevant.  Sabermetrics has changed the way that prospects (and players) are viewed.  Baseball teams have simply gotten better at objective analysis and so has the way that prospects are ranked and looked at.  There is simply more information to go off of when publications do their prospect rankings and new prospect evaluation publications have come along (Baseball prospectus, for one).

Plus, there is a much greater influx of Cuban talent, much of it of the impact variety, which has also affected the prospect landscape.

I look forward to Eli telling me I'm full of shit.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2139 on: April 02, 2015, 06:58:13 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on April 02, 2015, 04:46:08 PM
I look forward to Eli telling me I'm full of shit.

You're not. I think I posted something a while back (can't find it now) that took prospect rankings and career WAR and it showed an increasing correlation between the two. They're definitely way better than they used to be.

Edit: Found it. Sorry it's so huge*.



* TWSS.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2140 on: April 02, 2015, 07:36:18 PM »
Quote from: Eli on April 02, 2015, 06:58:13 PM
Sorry it's so huge*.

* TWSS.

Doesn't ... quite ... work ...  did you mean TWHS?
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2141 on: April 02, 2015, 07:50:16 PM »
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 02, 2015, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 02, 2015, 06:58:13 PM
Sorry it's so huge*.

* TWSS.

Doesn't ... quite ... work ...  did you mean TWHS?

No idea! Please explain comedy to me.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2142 on: April 02, 2015, 08:43:41 PM »
Quote from: SKO on April 02, 2015, 04:19:43 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 02, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: Fork on April 02, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 02, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Man...looking at the 1989 awards is kind of depressing.

But, Lonnie Smith was a 9 win player in 1989.  Who knew?

Brett Saberhagen was a 10 win player.

Gregg Jefferies finished 3rd in the ROY voting in '89.

Jefferies was the 1988/89 version of Kris Bryant. Not saying they'll have the same outcome, but Jefferies was every bit as much of a can't miss.

Todd Ziele

yeah we can just stop this game now. It sucks.

Stop being such a Steve Bilko.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2143 on: April 03, 2015, 09:25:58 AM »
Quote from: Fork on April 02, 2015, 08:43:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 02, 2015, 04:19:43 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 02, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: Fork on April 02, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 02, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Man...looking at the 1989 awards is kind of depressing.

But, Lonnie Smith was a 9 win player in 1989.  Who knew?

Brett Saberhagen was a 10 win player.

Gregg Jefferies finished 3rd in the ROY voting in '89.

Jefferies was the 1988/89 version of Kris Bryant. Not saying they'll have the same outcome, but Jefferies was every bit as much of a can't miss.

Todd Ziele

yeah we can just stop this game now. It sucks.

Stop being such a Steve Bilko.
Surely you meant Sergeant Bilko.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2144 on: April 03, 2015, 09:51:39 AM »
Quote from: CBStew on April 03, 2015, 09:25:58 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 02, 2015, 08:43:41 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 02, 2015, 04:19:43 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 02, 2015, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: Fork on April 02, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
Quote from: Oleg on April 02, 2015, 03:29:29 PM
Man...looking at the 1989 awards is kind of depressing.

But, Lonnie Smith was a 9 win player in 1989.  Who knew?

Brett Saberhagen was a 10 win player.

Gregg Jefferies finished 3rd in the ROY voting in '89.

Jefferies was the 1988/89 version of Kris Bryant. Not saying they'll have the same outcome, but Jefferies was every bit as much of a can't miss.

Todd Ziele

yeah we can just stop this game now. It sucks.

Stop being such a Steve Bilko.
Surely you meant Sergeant Bilko.

Or Steve Biko.
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