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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2625 on: May 28, 2015, 03:41:38 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 03:33:37 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 03:21:52 PM
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I am legitimately baffled about the differences between Americans and the rest of the world sometimes. Half of this country thinks hockey, which to me is the most stressful sport of all to watch, "boring" because it's comparatively low-scoring and yet the rest of the world can watch test cricket. I have no idea why we're so different, it's just interesting.

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Sorry. In honor of this thread's humble beginnings I'll get us back on track by pointing out that Mack Seizure hit a game winning homer for Iowa.

A 3-run homer when they were down 2-0 and were getting 3-hit through the first 8 innings. 

Gotta sell that shit, man. 

Javy is 0 for his last 11 with 4 K's, though. DOOOOM.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2626 on: May 28, 2015, 04:09:38 PM »
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 03:10:55 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 28, 2015, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 02:56:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:53:02 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:52:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 21, 2015, 07:14:55 PM
Eloy's coming.

Quote
The Eloy Jimenez HR gives him the team lead with two, and he is now hitting 317/348/583 in 19 Cactus League EXST games (66 PA). In addition to the two home runs, Eloy also has four doubles and is tied for the team lead in triples with three (tied with Kevin Encarnacion), and he leads the team in RBI (15 ) and in runs scored (11). He has three walks and ten strikeouts in the 66 PA, and he has also stolen three bases (no CS).    

But seriously, Eloy is fucking coming, y'all.

[quote = Yesterday's box score]
Eloy Jimenez, RF: 3-3 (1B, HR, 2B, 2 R, 6 RBI)


SKO'd.

Not that I'm not excited about Eloy Jimenez but on a scale from whatever the heck that "test cricket" is that I saw Tonk refer to on facebook to a CFL preseason game, where do extended spring training stats rank? I'm gonna say "low."

Ironically, "test" cricket is the highest level of cricket.


Intrepid reader: SKO

Huh, that sucks.  Yay for 'Murica, fuck everything that's not 'Murica, etc. etc. etc.


I just googled test cricket and it sounds grueling. How the hell do people play that many hours a day for five days in a row without dying in fucking India?

Because they break for lunch, and afternoon tea, every day.  And they have drinks brought out onto the field every hour or so.  I'm not kidding.

Like Hi-C? Maybe some orange slices?

These days, I presume it's energy drinks.  I did see one of the players drinking Red Bull on the field the other day.  It used to be perfectly acceptable to smoke during play.

The schedule goes something like this:

11:00 Start
11:30 Drinks
12:00 Drinks
12:30 Drinks
13:00 Lunch
13:40 Restart
14:10 Drinks
14:40 Drinks
15:10 Drinks
15:40 Tea
16:20 Restart
16:40 Drinks
17:10 Drinks
17:40 Drinks
18:10 Finish for the day
18:11 Urinating.  Lots and lots of urinating.
18:15 Beer

Day 2: Rinse, repeat.
Day 3: Rinse, repeat.
Day 4: Rinse, repeat.
Day 5: Match finishes in a draw.

Eloy would fuck own that.  

Well since half the sport appears to be eating, drinking, and apparently in the old days smoking cigarettes, I feel like David Wells chose the wrong sport.

I have Caymanian friends that attend this.

QuoteDates for the tournament were confirmed for the 2013 Caribbean Premier League as 29 July to 26 August. The 2014 and 2015 tournaments are planned to take place from 5 July to 10 August and 21 June to 26 July respectively.]Dates for the tournament were confirmed for the 2013 Caribbean Premier League as 29 July to 26 August. The 2014 and 2015 tournaments are planned to take place from 5 July to 10 August and 21 June to 26 July respectively.

All they do is drink and smoke weed and sail and drink and smoke cigarettes and watch All Blacks Rugby and drink and fish for the other 11 months of the year... and watch other cricket tournaments.

It's quite the life.

Edit: And they eat every variation of Trinidad Roti and curry known to man.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2627 on: May 28, 2015, 04:47:53 PM »
Quote from: flannj on May 28, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 03:10:55 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 28, 2015, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 02:56:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:53:02 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:52:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 21, 2015, 07:14:55 PM
Eloy's coming.

Quote
The Eloy Jimenez HR gives him the team lead with two, and he is now hitting 317/348/583 in 19 Cactus League EXST games (66 PA). In addition to the two home runs, Eloy also has four doubles and is tied for the team lead in triples with three (tied with Kevin Encarnacion), and he leads the team in RBI (15 ) and in runs scored (11). He has three walks and ten strikeouts in the 66 PA, and he has also stolen three bases (no CS).    

But seriously, Eloy is fucking coming, y'all.

[quote = Yesterday's box score]
Eloy Jimenez, RF: 3-3 (1B, HR, 2B, 2 R, 6 RBI)


SKO'd.

Not that I'm not excited about Eloy Jimenez but on a scale from whatever the heck that "test cricket" is that I saw Tonk refer to on facebook to a CFL preseason game, where do extended spring training stats rank? I'm gonna say "low."

Ironically, "test" cricket is the highest level of cricket.


Intrepid reader: SKO

Huh, that sucks.  Yay for 'Murica, fuck everything that's not 'Murica, etc. etc. etc.


I just googled test cricket and it sounds grueling. How the hell do people play that many hours a day for five days in a row without dying in fucking India?

Because they break for lunch, and afternoon tea, every day.  And they have drinks brought out onto the field every hour or so.  I'm not kidding.

Like Hi-C? Maybe some orange slices?

These days, I presume it's energy drinks.  I did see one of the players drinking Red Bull on the field the other day.  It used to be perfectly acceptable to smoke during play.

The schedule goes something like this:

11:00 Start
11:30 Drinks
12:00 Drinks
12:30 Drinks
13:00 Lunch
13:40 Restart
14:10 Drinks
14:40 Drinks
15:10 Drinks
15:40 Tea
16:20 Restart
16:40 Drinks
17:10 Drinks
17:40 Drinks
18:10 Finish for the day
18:11 Urinating.  Lots and lots of urinating.
18:15 Beer

Day 2: Rinse, repeat.
Day 3: Rinse, repeat.
Day 4: Rinse, repeat.
Day 5: Match finishes in a draw.

Eloy would fuck own that.  

Well since half the sport appears to be eating, drinking, and apparently in the old days smoking cigarettes, I feel like David Wells chose the wrong sport.

I have Caymanian friends that attend this.

QuoteDates for the tournament were confirmed for the 2013 Caribbean Premier League as 29 July to 26 August. The 2014 and 2015 tournaments are planned to take place from 5 July to 10 August and 21 June to 26 July respectively.]Dates for the tournament were confirmed for the 2013 Caribbean Premier League as 29 July to 26 August. The 2014 and 2015 tournaments are planned to take place from 5 July to 10 August and 21 June to 26 July respectively.

All they do is drink and smoke weed and sail and drink and smoke cigarettes and watch All Blacks Rugby and drink and fish for the other 11 months of the year... and watch other cricket tournaments.

It's quite the life.

Edit: And they eat every variation of Trinidad Roti and curry known to man.


T20 (Twenty-twenty) cricket is a slugfest, and is spectacular to watch.  It's kind of missing the point, though: which is to say that all the excitement interferes with the serious business of spending the entire day sitting in the sunshine, slowly eating and drinking yourself towards a nice long afternoon nap in your seat.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2628 on: May 28, 2015, 05:14:03 PM »
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 28, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 03:10:55 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 28, 2015, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 02:56:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:53:02 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:52:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 21, 2015, 07:14:55 PM
Eloy's coming.

Quote
The Eloy Jimenez HR gives him the team lead with two, and he is now hitting 317/348/583 in 19 Cactus League EXST games (66 PA). In addition to the two home runs, Eloy also has four doubles and is tied for the team lead in triples with three (tied with Kevin Encarnacion), and he leads the team in RBI (15 ) and in runs scored (11). He has three walks and ten strikeouts in the 66 PA, and he has also stolen three bases (no CS).    

But seriously, Eloy is fucking coming, y'all.

[quote = Yesterday's box score]
Eloy Jimenez, RF: 3-3 (1B, HR, 2B, 2 R, 6 RBI)


SKO'd.

Not that I'm not excited about Eloy Jimenez but on a scale from whatever the heck that "test cricket" is that I saw Tonk refer to on facebook to a CFL preseason game, where do extended spring training stats rank? I'm gonna say "low."

Ironically, "test" cricket is the highest level of cricket.


Intrepid reader: SKO

Huh, that sucks.  Yay for 'Murica, fuck everything that's not 'Murica, etc. etc. etc.


I just googled test cricket and it sounds grueling. How the hell do people play that many hours a day for five days in a row without dying in fucking India?

Because they break for lunch, and afternoon tea, every day.  And they have drinks brought out onto the field every hour or so.  I'm not kidding.

Like Hi-C? Maybe some orange slices?

These days, I presume it's energy drinks.  I did see one of the players drinking Red Bull on the field the other day.  It used to be perfectly acceptable to smoke during play.

The schedule goes something like this:

11:00 Start
11:30 Drinks
12:00 Drinks
12:30 Drinks
13:00 Lunch
13:40 Restart
14:10 Drinks
14:40 Drinks
15:10 Drinks
15:40 Tea
16:20 Restart
16:40 Drinks
17:10 Drinks
17:40 Drinks
18:10 Finish for the day
18:11 Urinating.  Lots and lots of urinating.
18:15 Beer

Day 2: Rinse, repeat.
Day 3: Rinse, repeat.
Day 4: Rinse, repeat.
Day 5: Match finishes in a draw.

Eloy would fuck own that.  

Well since half the sport appears to be eating, drinking, and apparently in the old days smoking cigarettes, I feel like David Wells chose the wrong sport.

I have Caymanian friends that attend this.

QuoteDates for the tournament were confirmed for the 2013 Caribbean Premier League as 29 July to 26 August. The 2014 and 2015 tournaments are planned to take place from 5 July to 10 August and 21 June to 26 July respectively.]Dates for the tournament were confirmed for the 2013 Caribbean Premier League as 29 July to 26 August. The 2014 and 2015 tournaments are planned to take place from 5 July to 10 August and 21 June to 26 July respectively.

All they do is drink and smoke weed and sail and drink and smoke cigarettes and watch All Blacks Rugby and drink and fish for the other 11 months of the year... and watch other cricket tournaments.

It's quite the life.

Edit: And they eat every variation of Trinidad Roti and curry known to man.


T20 (Twenty-twenty) cricket is a slugfest, and is spectacular to watch.  It's kind of missing the point, though: which is to say that all the excitement interferes with the serious business of spending the entire day sitting in the sunshine, slowly eating and drinking yourself towards a nice long afternoon nap in your seat.

A sunny day with curry and jerk and seafood and grilled goat and Appelton and beer works for me.
Let's go, it's gotta be better than North Rogers Park (believe me I know, I used to live there).

First round is on me.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2629 on: May 28, 2015, 07:11:42 PM »
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on May 23, 2015, 07:24:04 AM
Ryan Williams' stat line is some video game shit.

7 starts, 45 innings, 0.59 ERA, 35K 2BB.

Perfect through 4 so far tonight.

Definitely needs to be in Myrtle.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2630 on: May 29, 2015, 01:23:59 AM »
Quote from: flannj on May 28, 2015, 05:14:03 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 28, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 03:10:55 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 28, 2015, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 02:56:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:53:02 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:52:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 21, 2015, 07:14:55 PM
Eloy's coming.

Quote
The Eloy Jimenez HR gives him the team lead with two, and he is now hitting 317/348/583 in 19 Cactus League EXST games (66 PA). In addition to the two home runs, Eloy also has four doubles and is tied for the team lead in triples with three (tied with Kevin Encarnacion), and he leads the team in RBI (15 ) and in runs scored (11). He has three walks and ten strikeouts in the 66 PA, and he has also stolen three bases (no CS).    

But seriously, Eloy is fucking coming, y'all.

[quote = Yesterday's box score]
Eloy Jimenez, RF: 3-3 (1B, HR, 2B, 2 R, 6 RBI)


SKO'd.

Not that I'm not excited about Eloy Jimenez but on a scale from whatever the heck that "test cricket" is that I saw Tonk refer to on facebook to a CFL preseason game, where do extended spring training stats rank? I'm gonna say "low."

Ironically, "test" cricket is the highest level of cricket.


Intrepid reader: SKO

Huh, that sucks.  Yay for 'Murica, fuck everything that's not 'Murica, etc. etc. etc.


I just googled test cricket and it sounds grueling. How the hell do people play that many hours a day for five days in a row without dying in fucking India?

Because they break for lunch, and afternoon tea, every day.  And they have drinks brought out onto the field every hour or so.  I'm not kidding.

Like Hi-C? Maybe some orange slices?

These days, I presume it's energy drinks.  I did see one of the players drinking Red Bull on the field the other day.  It used to be perfectly acceptable to smoke during play.

The schedule goes something like this:

Day 5: Match finishes in a draw.

Eloy would fuck own that.  

Well since half the sport appears to be eating, drinking, and apparently in the old days smoking cigarettes, I feel like David Wells chose the wrong sport.

I have Caymanian friends that attend this.

QuoteDates for the tournament were confirmed for the 2013 Caribbean Premier League as 29 July to 26 August. The 2014 and 2015 tournaments are planned to take place from 5 July to 10 August and 21 June to 26 July respectively.]Dates for the tournament were confirmed for the 2013 Caribbean Premier League as 29 July to 26 August. The 2014 and 2015 tournaments are planned to take place from 5 July to 10 August and 21 June to 26 July respectively.

All they do is drink and smoke weed and sail and drink and smoke cigarettes and watch All Blacks Rugby and drink and fish for the other 11 months of the year... and watch other cricket tournaments.

It's quite the life.

Edit: And they eat every variation of Trinidad Roti and curry known to man.


T20 (Twenty-twenty) cricket is a slugfest, and is spectacular to watch.  It's kind of missing the point, though: which is to say that all the excitement interferes with the serious business of spending the entire day sitting in the sunshine, slowly eating and drinking yourself towards a nice long afternoon nap in your seat.

A sunny day with curry and jerk and seafood and grilled goat and Appelton and beer works for me.
Let's go, it's gotta be better than North Rogers Park (believe me I know, I used to live there).

First round is on me.

Mate, there is - possibly literally - nothing I would like better.

Well, okay... two lesbians, probably, sisters.  I'm just watching.

But apart from that, there is - possibly literally - nothing I would like better.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2631 on: May 29, 2015, 07:17:47 AM »
Quote from: Tonker on May 29, 2015, 01:23:59 AM
Quote from: flannj on May 28, 2015, 05:14:03 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 04:47:53 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 28, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 03:10:55 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 28, 2015, 03:04:28 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:59:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 02:56:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:53:02 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2015, 02:52:24 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 02:15:54 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2015, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 28, 2015, 02:12:10 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 21, 2015, 07:14:55 PM
Eloy's coming.

Quote
The Eloy Jimenez HR gives him the team lead with two, and he is now hitting 317/348/583 in 19 Cactus League EXST games (66 PA). In addition to the two home runs, Eloy also has four doubles and is tied for the team lead in triples with three (tied with Kevin Encarnacion), and he leads the team in RBI (15 ) and in runs scored (11). He has three walks and ten strikeouts in the 66 PA, and he has also stolen three bases (no CS).    

But seriously, Eloy is fucking coming, y'all.

[quote = Yesterday's box score]
Eloy Jimenez, RF: 3-3 (1B, HR, 2B, 2 R, 6 RBI)


SKO'd.

Not that I'm not excited about Eloy Jimenez but on a scale from whatever the heck that "test cricket" is that I saw Tonk refer to on facebook to a CFL preseason game, where do extended spring training stats rank? I'm gonna say "low."

Ironically, "test" cricket is the highest level of cricket.


Intrepid reader: SKO

Huh, that sucks.  Yay for 'Murica, fuck everything that's not 'Murica, etc. etc. etc.


I just googled test cricket and it sounds grueling. How the hell do people play that many hours a day for five days in a row without dying in fucking India?

Because they break for lunch, and afternoon tea, every day.  And they have drinks brought out onto the field every hour or so.  I'm not kidding.

Like Hi-C? Maybe some orange slices?

These days, I presume it's energy drinks.  I did see one of the players drinking Red Bull on the field the other day.  It used to be perfectly acceptable to smoke during play.

The schedule goes something like this:

Day 5: Match finishes in a draw.

Eloy would fuck own that.  

Well since half the sport appears to be eating, drinking, and apparently in the old days smoking cigarettes, I feel like David Wells chose the wrong sport.

I have Caymanian friends that attend this.

QuoteDates for the tournament were confirmed for the 2013 Caribbean Premier League as 29 July to 26 August. The 2014 and 2015 tournaments are planned to take place from 5 July to 10 August and 21 June to 26 July respectively.]Dates for the tournament were confirmed for the 2013 Caribbean Premier League as 29 July to 26 August. The 2014 and 2015 tournaments are planned to take place from 5 July to 10 August and 21 June to 26 July respectively.

All they do is drink and smoke weed and sail and drink and smoke cigarettes and watch All Blacks Rugby and drink and fish for the other 11 months of the year... and watch other cricket tournaments.

It's quite the life.

Edit: And they eat every variation of Trinidad Roti and curry known to man.


T20 (Twenty-twenty) cricket is a slugfest, and is spectacular to watch.  It's kind of missing the point, though: which is to say that all the excitement interferes with the serious business of spending the entire day sitting in the sunshine, slowly eating and drinking yourself towards a nice long afternoon nap in your seat.

A sunny day with curry and jerk and seafood and grilled goat and Appelton and beer works for me.
Let's go, it's gotta be better than North Rogers Park (believe me I know, I used to live there).

First round is on me.

Mate, there is - possibly literally - nothing I would like better.

Well, okay... two lesbians, probably, sisters.  I'm just watching.

But apart from that, there is - possibly literally - nothing I would like better.

Not to mention, Soca.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2632 on: May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM »
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2633 on: May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2634 on: May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2635 on: May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2636 on: May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM »
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2637 on: May 29, 2015, 10:55:59 AM »
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Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

I'm willing to readjust expectations and allow this.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2638 on: May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM »
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2639 on: May 29, 2015, 11:01:22 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.
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