Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

So Christian Villaneuva is basically Spanish for Mike Olt. Let's move on.

Other than being not even remotely comparable, profile-wise, as hitters, this is spot on! And Mike Olt was once traded to a rebuilding team for a quality starting pitcher, so, yeah, this is exactly what we're trying to accomplish here.

But seriously Villanueva's struck out 21 times this year. Olt's K'd twice that much while on the DL.

I'm glad that SKO's frighteningly rapid descent into Hueyhood has been recorded on this messageboard for posterity, otherwise I might not believe it.

Brings a tear to me eye, it does.

[SKO]

Feels like Christian Villanueva should be mentioned here. Given the reputation he has defensively at 3B I'd bet he'll be part of one of the packages they trade away this year.

Except he's made 15 errors at 3B already this year and they already moved him to 1B. 

I don't disagree that he'll be part of a package trade, but I don't think he has any future with the Cubs.

Nice to see him hitting well again.

For the record he's started at 3B since Javy got hurt.

[SKO]

DPD, but for a lot of guys, I'm assuming these BMIs are based on measurements from later in their careers and not when they were 23.

I'll happily settle for Carlos Lee or Nelson Cruz, but not many others on this list that were primarily OFs.

Kudos to Tank for some impressive analysis. Especially going through all that trouble for an audience of like 9 people.

As for the actual numbers, they aren't ... encouraging. But there's so much that can change, it seems premature to worry too much. He could move to first, get traded, trade Rizzo, lose 25 pounds, etc.

Oh man look what I found boredom browsing this thread. Eli owes someone an apology.

[Eli]

DPD, but for a lot of guys, I'm assuming these BMIs are based on measurements from later in their careers and not when they were 23.

I'll happily settle for Carlos Lee or Nelson Cruz, but not many others on this list that were primarily OFs.

Kudos to Tank for some impressive analysis. Especially going through all that trouble for an audience of like 9 people.

As for the actual numbers, they aren't ... encouraging. But there's so much that can change, it seems premature to worry too much. He could move to first, get traded, trade Rizzo, lose 25 pounds, etc.

Oh man look what I found boredom browsing this thread. Eli owes someone an apology.

Actually, based on this I think Neyer owes me an apology.

[SKO]

DPD, but for a lot of guys, I'm assuming these BMIs are based on measurements from later in their careers and not when they were 23.

I'll happily settle for Carlos Lee or Nelson Cruz, but not many others on this list that were primarily OFs.

Kudos to Tank for some impressive analysis. Especially going through all that trouble for an audience of like 9 people.

As for the actual numbers, they aren't ... encouraging. But there's so much that can change, it seems premature to worry too much. He could move to first, get traded, trade Rizzo, lose 25 pounds, etc.

Oh man look what I found boredom browsing this thread. Eli owes someone an apology.

Actually, based on this I think Neyer owes me an apology.

Well we know now why you told him it wouldn't happen. You'd been trying without success to trade Rizzo for nearly a year.

[Quality Start Machine]

I know actual, living, breathing, normally smart human beings who think the Cubs shouldn't trade an "elite hitting prospect" like Dan Vogelbach (unless it's like 1:1 for Hamels or Cueto) because the DH "might" be coming to the NL soon. I wanted to pound my head against my desk. Is this what it feels like to be Eli?

April: 362/470/594

May: 282/408/410

Think the Southern League is figuring our boy out.

[SKO]

I know actual, living, breathing, normally smart human beings who think the Cubs shouldn't trade an "elite hitting prospect" like Dan Vogelbach (unless it's like 1:1 for Hamels or Cueto) because the DH "might" be coming to the NL soon. I wanted to pound my head against my desk. Is this what it feels like to be Eli?

April: 362/470/594

May: 282/408/410

Think the Southern League is figuring our boy out.

Well he was never going to keep that pace up forever. I'm pretty sure he's a fatter Lyle Overbay that offers nothing defensively. That said, AL teams could definitely use a DH and part time 1B like that, so trade him now.

[CT III]

I know actual, living, breathing, normally smart human beings who think the Cubs shouldn't trade an "elite hitting prospect" like Dan Vogelbach (unless it's like 1:1 for Hamels or Cueto) because the DH "might" be coming to the NL soon. I wanted to pound my head against my desk. Is this what it feels like to be Eli?

April: 362/470/594

May: 282/408/410

Think the Southern League is figuring our boy out.

Jesus Christ, he's like one of those Superstar hitters in the old Baseball Stars NES game.

[Oleg]

I know actual, living, breathing, normally smart human beings who think the Cubs shouldn't trade an "elite hitting prospect" like Dan Vogelbach (unless it's like 1:1 for Hamels or Cueto) because the DH "might" be coming to the NL soon. I wanted to pound my head against my desk. Is this what it feels like to be Eli?

April: 362/470/594

May: 282/408/410

Think the Southern League is figuring our boy out.

Or, maybe, we shouldn't put too much stock into a month's worth of numbers?

[Eli]

I know actual, living, breathing, normally smart human beings who think the Cubs shouldn't trade an "elite hitting prospect" like Dan Vogelbach (unless it's like 1:1 for Hamels or Cueto) because the DH "might" be coming to the NL soon. I wanted to pound my head against my desk. Is this what it feels like to be Eli?

April: 362/470/594

May: 282/408/410

Think the Southern League is figuring our boy out.

Or, maybe, we shouldn't put too much stock into a month's worth of numbers?

Which month are you referring to?

[Quality Start Machine]

I know actual, living, breathing, normally smart human beings who think the Cubs shouldn't trade an "elite hitting prospect" like Dan Vogelbach (unless it's like 1:1 for Hamels or Cueto) because the DH "might" be coming to the NL soon. I wanted to pound my head against my desk. Is this what it feels like to be Eli?

April: 362/470/594

May: 282/408/410

Think the Southern League is figuring our boy out.

Or, maybe, we shouldn't put too much stock into a month's worth of numbers?

Considering his career splits are 287/380/481 I'm thinking last month is the one we should be putting stock into.

[Slaky]

I know actual, living, breathing, normally smart human beings who think the Cubs shouldn't trade an "elite hitting prospect" like Dan Vogelbach (unless it's like 1:1 for Hamels or Cueto) because the DH "might" be coming to the NL soon. I wanted to pound my head against my desk. Is this what it feels like to be Eli?

April: 362/470/594

May: 282/408/410

Think the Southern League is figuring our boy out.

Or, maybe, we shouldn't put too much stock into a month's worth of numbers?

Considering his career splits are 287/380/481 I'm thinking last month is the one we should be putting stock into.

I put zero stock in Dan Vogelbach. He'll never be a Cub.

[Saul Goodman]

I know actual, living, breathing, normally smart human beings who think the Cubs shouldn't trade an "elite hitting prospect" like Dan Vogelbach (unless it's like 1:1 for Hamels or Cueto) because the DH "might" be coming to the NL soon. I wanted to pound my head against my desk. Is this what it feels like to be Eli?

April: 362/470/594

May: 282/408/410

Think the Southern League is figuring our boy out.

Or, maybe, we shouldn't put too much stock into a month's worth of numbers?

Considering his career splits are 287/380/481 I'm thinking last month is the one we should be putting stock into.

I put zero stock in Dan Vogelbach. He'll never be a Cub.

Well, not until Rizzo gets traded.

[Yeti]

Gleyber was 5-5 with a HR today. Can't trade him

[Eli]

Gleyber was 5-5 with a HR today. Can't trade him

He's still their best trade bait. If they're able to get a major piece with him as the center (which may be unlikely), they should pull the trigger.