Chicago Bears 2012 Championship Season: Lovestink is Forever.

[SKO]

I misread the numbers, Koetter has actually had four top 20 scoring teams (18th in 2010, 6th in 2007, 7th in 2012, and 12th in 2014). So in ten years as an OC he's had a better than league average offense three times, not two. My bad. Give him personnel control while you're at it.

[PenFoe]

Dirk Koetter has been an offensive coordinator for ten years in the NFL and has finished higher than 24th in scoring....twice. He was a mediocre college coach the last time he had a head job. Who gives a fuck if Jameis likes him? He obviously doesn't know any better.

Better make that man a head coach before someone else snags him, I tell ya.

They should hire a proven winner OC like Josh McDaniels.

Hiring Josh McDaniels makes more sense (and it makes no sense) than firing Lovie just to promote Dirk Koetter. A whole year of being disengaged from football led to me forgetting how horribly wrong you are about everything all of the time. This has been a nice refresher.

You're the only one arguing about Dirk Koetter, though you obviously don't realize that.

[SKO]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

[PenFoe]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

[SKO]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.

Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.

[PenFoe]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.

Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.

I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.

I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.

Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.

Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.

I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.

I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.

Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.

Fuck off.  I remember that game, mostly for shitbird Emilio Bonifacio--who did nothing else all year for the Sox-- got an HBP in the 9th or 10th, should've been called for attempting to steal second, and eventually came around to score without the benefit of a hit.  I was pretty damn asshurt for a few hours after that game. 

[Bort]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.

Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.

I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.

I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.

Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.

Fuck off.  I remember that game, mostly for shitbird Emilio Bonifacio--who did nothing else all year for the Sox-- got an HBP in the 9th or 10th, should've been called for attempting to steal second, and eventually came around to score without the benefit of a hit.  I was pretty damn asshurt for a few hours after that game. 

Pen is just trolling until he gets his beloved Dead Pool post.

[PenFoe]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.

Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.

I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.

I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.

Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.

Fuck off.  I remember that game, mostly for shitbird Emilio Bonifacio--who did nothing else all year for the Sox-- got an HBP in the 9th or 10th, should've been called for attempting to steal second, and eventually came around to score without the benefit of a hit.  I was pretty damn asshurt for a few hours after that game. 

Pen is just trolling until he gets his beloved Dead Pool post.

I do seriously love that post.

[SKO]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.

Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.

I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.

I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.

Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.

Licht hired Lovie Smith and fired him within two years but sure let's trust his judgment on whether the very model of a modern major mediocre offensive coordinator is their best bet for head coach just because a kid who has never had another NFL offensive coordinator think he's the best one evar.

[PenFoe]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.

Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.

I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.

I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.

Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.

Licht hired Lovie Smith and fired him within two years but sure let's trust his judgment on whether the very model of a major mediocre offensive coordinator is their best bet for head coach just because a kid who has never had another NFL offensive coordinator think he's the best one evar.

Licht hired Lovie two years ago so he could finally see that McCown Magic Show sans Trestman.

[InternetApex]

Can we fire this thread and promote one of its assistants?

[CBStew]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.

Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.

I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.

I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.

Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.

Licht hired Lovie Smith and fired him within two years but sure let's trust his judgment on whether the very model of a modern major mediocre offensive coordinator is their best bet for head coach just because a kid who has never had another NFL offensive coordinator think he's the best one evar.

I defer to the Lord High Executioner.

[Brownie]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.

Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.

I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.

I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.

Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.

Fuck off.  I remember that game, mostly for shitbird Emilio Bonifacio--who did nothing else all year for the Sox-- got an HBP in the 9th or 10th, should've been called for attempting to steal second, and eventually came around to score without the benefit of a hit.  I was pretty damn asshurt for a few hours after that game. 

Pen is just trolling until he gets his beloved Dead Pool post.

I do seriously love that post.

Can I repick my Deadpool choices?

1. Dirk Koetter
2. Jameis Winston
3. Lovie Smith
4 Adam Gase
5. Emilio Bonifacio
6. Carlos Rodon
7. Josh McDaniels
8. Phil Emery
9. John Fox
10. PenFoe

[InternetApex]

Regardless of what you think of Koetter, if the Bucs feel like their more important asset right now is Jameis (probably fair) and that Koetter is more integral to Jameis' development than Lovie, then it makes fine sense for them to promote Koetter to HC rather than losing him if they truly felt like there was a decent chance he was going to get another HC job (which sounds a least possible.)

Correct, I'm arguing about Jameis while you're talking about alienating the defense and creating an environment that people don't want to work in.

You said it makes sense to promote Koetter. I'm saying it doesn't. Even if Jameis likes him, who cares, is that's what best for the franchise? Get Jameis a different, better offensive coordinator (and they are definitely out there) and tell him to get over it.

Firing Lovie for an offensive mind if you're putting QB development above all else is somewhat defensible. Saying that offensive mind is Dirk Koetter is not.

I have no idea if Koetter will be a good head coach in Tampa, that's Licht's job.
But he's probably more qualified than internet Guy who thought Arians was a bad choice for the Bears.

I'm just arguing that I get firing Lovie for someone who works well with Jameis because he's the most important part of that franchise. Far more important than Lavonte Davis or making sure that there's continuity.

Maybe you're just struggling with multi-tasking here what with trying to convince people that the Cubs most heartbreaking loss last year was that one that no one really remembers.

Fuck off.  I remember that game, mostly for shitbird Emilio Bonifacio--who did nothing else all year for the Sox-- got an HBP in the 9th or 10th, should've been called for attempting to steal second, and eventually came around to score without the benefit of a hit.  I was pretty damn asshurt for a few hours after that game. 

Pen is just trolling until he gets his beloved Dead Pool post.

I do seriously love that post.

Can I repick my Deadpool choices?

1. Dirk Koetter
2. Jameis Winston
3. Lovie Smith
4 Adam Gase
5. Emilio Bonifacio
6. Carlos Rodon
7. Josh McDaniels
8. Phil Emery
9. John Fox
10. PenFoe

My thumbs hurt from sticking up so hard at this post.