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J. Walter Weatherman

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #390 on: January 25, 2013, 03:13:45 PM »
http://legiscan.com/MS/text/HB490

Quote(c)  The United States Constitution was ratified on June 21, 1788, and it affirms that the sole and sovereign power to regulate the state business and affairs rests in the state legislatures and that such power has always been a compelling state concern and central to state sovereignty and security.  Accordingly, the foregoing public meaning and understanding of Article 1, Section 8, the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment and the Tenth Amendment, of the United States Constitution is a matter of compact between the state and people of Mississippi and the United States as of the time that Mississippi was admitted to statehood.  Further, the power to regulate commerce among the several states as delegated to the Congress in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution as understood at the time of the founding, was meant to empower Congress to regulate the buying and selling of products made by others, of land under certain circumstances, including associated finance and financial instruments, and the navigation and other carriage across state jurisdictional lines.  This power to regulate commerce does not include the power to regulate agriculture, manufacturing, mining, major crimes, or land use, nor does it include activities that merely substantially affect commerce.

The State of Mississippi hereby reserves the right to overturn Federal stare decisis on anything after 1817.

Quote(f)  We acknowledge that the commerce clause, the general welfare clause, and the necessary and proper clause of the United States Constitution were amended, and made more specific and limiting at the peoples' insistence, through the creation of the Bill of Rights, and more specifically, the Second Amendment, the Ninth Amendment and the Tenth Amendment.  All amendments contained in the Bill of Rights were for the purpose of further restricting federal powers, vesting and/or retaining the ultimate power and control of the states by the people within the states.  Therefore, we specifically reject and deny any federal claim of expanded and/or additional authority which the federal government may from time to time attempt to exert, exercise or enforce under these clauses, as these actions totally disrupt and degrade the emphasis on the balance of powers articulated by the founding fathers of this country.

Further, the people of the State of Mississippi are aware that the federal government has amended and altered the spirit and the meaning of the commerce clause, without proper legislative authority through amendment.  Therefore, we reject and deny this unauthorized and excessive abuse of power which has primarily acted as a detriment to states' rights and individual rights, a deliberate attempt to negatively alter the balance of powers.

I particularly like the reification of 'Balance of Powers' as something more than just a descriptive abstraction, but rather something concrete that supersedes the actual text of the Constitution as interpreted in actual case law.

QuoteSECTION 3.  (1)  In accordance with the United States Constitution, Congress and the federal government are denied the power to establish or affect laws within this state which are repugnant and obtrusive to the United States Constitution, the Mississippi Constitution of 1890, state law and the citizens of the state.  The federal government is restrained and confined in authority by the eighteen (18) items as set forth in Article 1, Section 8 of the United States Constitution.

(2)  Congress and the federal government are hereby denied the power to bind the states under foreign statute, court order or opinion, or executive order, other than those provisions duly ratified by the Congress as a treaty, so long as the treaty does not violate the Mississippi Constitution of 1890 or United States Constitution.

(3)  No authority has ever been given to the legislative branch, the executive branch, or the judicial branch of the federal government, to preempt state legislation, or to destroy the balance of powers, which is set forth in the United States Constitution.

(4)  The provisions of this act shall serve as a notice and demand to the federal government to cease and desist any and all activities outside the scope of its designated constitutionally enumerated powers, and that attempt to diminish the balance of powers as established.

So it's basically just a big cease and desist letter.

Yer on notice, Federals.
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J. Walter Weatherman

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #391 on: January 25, 2013, 03:19:44 PM »
Quote(2)  The committee shall recommend, propose and call for a vote by simple majority to neutralize in its entirety a specific federal law or regulation that is outside the scope of the powers delegated by the people to the federal government in the United States Constitution.  The committee shall make its recommendation within thirty (30) days after receiving the federal legislation for consideration and process.

(3)  The committee may review any and all existing federal statutes, mandates and executive orders for the purpose of determining their constitutionality.  The committee may recommend for neutralization any existing federal statutes, mandates and executive orders enacted before the effective date of this act, if the committee determines that those measures are either beyond the scope and power assigned to the federal government under Article 1 of the United States Constitution or in direct violation of the Mississippi Constitution of 1890.

Yes... The Federal government is constrained by state constitutions. As the founders intended. That's just how Balance of Powers works.

Quote(2)  Article 3, Section 2 of the United States Constitution states that in all cases affecting ambassadors, other public ministers and consuls, and those in which a state shall be party, the Supreme Court of the United States shall have original jurisdiction.  In any cause of action between this state and the federal government regarding state neutralization of a federal legislation, judicial mandate or executive order, the proper jurisdiction for these disputes will lie with the Supreme Court of the United States alone.  If there is improper adjudication by the Supreme Court, then the people's interest shall be maintained and retained through state referendum.

Who does the Constitution task with determining if the Supreme Court's adjudication is "proper" or not?

If the job's not taken, I nominate Morph.

Quote(4)  The Ninth Amendment to the United States Constitution secures and reserves to the people of Mississippi, as against the federal government, their natural rights to life, liberty and property as entailed by the traditional Anglo-American conception of ordered liberty and as secured by state law, including, but not limited to, their rights as they were understood and secured by the law at the time that the amendment was ratified on December 15, 1791, as well as their rights as they were understood and secured by the law in the State of Mississippi at the time the Mississippi Constitution of 1890 was adopted on November 1, 1890.  The people and state hereby proclaim that the guarantee of those rights is a matter of compact between the state and people of Mississippi and the United States as of the time that Mississippi was admitted to statehood on December 10, 1817.

Oh... Maybe they only reserve the right to reject Constitutional case law post-1890.

After all, as Gary Chism insists, they do honor the 13th and 14th Amendments, too.

Which is mighty white of them, yessir.
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #392 on: January 25, 2013, 05:30:02 PM »
This Mississippi plan sounds like a great idea.  Since they decided they dont want to play by the Federal rules, I'm sure they wouldn't want their fifilty lucre either.



Looks like a $240,000,000,000 should cover the last 20 years (have to get back to them to run  it back to 1890).  Have them make it out to "US Treasury".  While  money is appareently tight down there, the market for second hand semi-automatic rifles is really hot right now.



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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #393 on: January 25, 2013, 05:53:00 PM »
Quote from: thehawk on January 25, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
This Mississippi plan sounds like a great idea.  Since they decided they dont want to play by the Federal rules, I'm sure they wouldn't want their fifilty lucre either.



Looks like a $240,000,000,000 should cover the last 20 years (have to get back to them to run  it back to 1890).  Have them make it out to "US Treasury".  While  money is appareently tight down there, the market for second hand semi-automatic rifles is really hot right now.





What the fuck, TEC?
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #394 on: January 26, 2013, 12:31:39 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on January 25, 2013, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 25, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
This Mississippi plan sounds like a great idea.  Since they decided they dont want to play by the Federal rules, I'm sure they wouldn't want their fifilty lucre either.



Looks like a $240,000,000,000 should cover the last 20 years (have to get back to them to run  it back to 1890).  Have them make it out to "US Treasury".  While  money is appareently tight down there, the market for second hand semi-automatic rifles is really hot right now.





What the fuck, TEC?

Designing and building nuclear weapons ain't cheap, man.

Testing new rockets is kind of expensive, too.  But I guess if any other state wants to hand over 3200 square miles to the Gubmint to get blown up, they can take WSMR's mission from us.
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J. Walter Weatherman

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #395 on: January 26, 2013, 10:48:16 AM »
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on January 26, 2013, 12:31:39 AM
Designing and building nuclear weapons ain't cheap, man.

Testing new rockets is kind of expensive, too.  But I guess if any other state wants to hand over 3200 square miles to the Gubmint to get blown up, they can take WSMR's mission from us.

Well, the St. Louis metro area comprises over 8,400 square miles...
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #396 on: January 27, 2013, 04:10:04 PM »
Hi, Michele Bachmann.

Quote"They told us they are inoculations," said one of the women interviewed. "They told us people who frequently give birth suffer. We took it every three months. We said we didn't want to."
"The brain growth deficit controls reality hence [G-d] rules the world.... These mathematical results by the way, are all experimentally confirmed to 2-decimal point accuracy by modern Psychometry data."--George Hammond, Gμν!!

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #397 on: January 28, 2013, 07:52:20 PM »
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 14, 2013, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 14, 2013, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: Fork on January 13, 2013, 07:21:21 PM
Wonder where MikeC has been?

Wonder no more.

So they dont beleive in ownership of property....
QuoteApproved applicants receive a Lifetime Lease (paid off in only 30 years).

they state
QuoteMarxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.

Marxists and socialsts would seem to have no problem with...

QuoteSurvival of the Citadel Community depends on making employment available for arriving families. We have already launched III Arms, a modern firearms company that will help employ the first wave of III Pioneers. III Arms is also unique in the world of firearms companies in that all profits generated are donated to the Citadel to help build our community.


This reminds me of a comic (sadly I do not remember which) who when summarizing the states said said.  "If you're a white person, and really really like other white people, Idaho is the place for you"

GOOD NEWS!  There's competition in the market.

If you have time, watch the "introduction" videos on the Blaze that are linked from that story.  He's loco.

Oh, man...

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130112/BIZ/301120319

QuoteDetroit — As the broken city thinks big and radically about its future, a developer is stepping forward with a revolutionary idea: Sell the city's Belle Isle park for $1 billion to private investors who will transform it into a free-market utopia.

The 982-acre island would then be developed into a U.S. commonwealth or city-state of 35,000 people with its own laws, customs and currency.

...

Here's the scenario for the Commonwealth of Belle Isle that Lockwood and others want to see: Private investors buy the island from a near-bankrupt Detroit for $1 billion. It then would secede from Michigan to become a semi-independent commonwealth like Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands.

Under the plan, it would become an economic and social laboratory where government is limited in scope and taxation is far different than the current U.S. system. There is no personal or corporate income tax. Much of the tax base would be provided by a different property tax — one based on the value of the land and not the value of the property.

It would take $300,000 to become a "Belle Islander," though 20 percent of citizenships would be open for striving immigrants, starving artists and up-and-coming entrepreneurs who don't meet the financial requirement.

Among the citizenship requirements are a command of the English language, a good credit rating and no criminal record. Mogk adds that such a scenario would make the island "a drain of talent and resources" at the expense of Detroit.
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #398 on: January 28, 2013, 08:25:32 PM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 28, 2013, 07:52:20 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 14, 2013, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 14, 2013, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: Fork on January 13, 2013, 07:21:21 PM
Wonder where MikeC has been?

Wonder no more.

So they dont beleive in ownership of property....
QuoteApproved applicants receive a Lifetime Lease (paid off in only 30 years).

they state
QuoteMarxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.

Marxists and socialsts would seem to have no problem with...

QuoteSurvival of the Citadel Community depends on making employment available for arriving families. We have already launched III Arms, a modern firearms company that will help employ the first wave of III Pioneers. III Arms is also unique in the world of firearms companies in that all profits generated are donated to the Citadel to help build our community.


This reminds me of a comic (sadly I do not remember which) who when summarizing the states said said.  "If you're a white person, and really really like other white people, Idaho is the place for you"

GOOD NEWS!  There's competition in the market.

If you have time, watch the "introduction" videos on the Blaze that are linked from that story.  He's loco.

Oh, man...

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130112/BIZ/301120319

QuoteDetroit — As the broken city thinks big and radically about its future, a developer is stepping forward with a revolutionary idea: Sell the city's Belle Isle park for $1 billion to private investors who will transform it into a free-market utopia.

The 982-acre island would then be developed into a U.S. commonwealth or city-state of 35,000 people with its own laws, customs and currency.

...

Here's the scenario for the Commonwealth of Belle Isle that Lockwood and others want to see: Private investors buy the island from a near-bankrupt Detroit for $1 billion. It then would secede from Michigan to become a semi-independent commonwealth like Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands.

Under the plan, it would become an economic and social laboratory where government is limited in scope and taxation is far different than the current U.S. system. There is no personal or corporate income tax. Much of the tax base would be provided by a different property tax — one based on the value of the land and not the value of the property.

It would take $300,000 to become a "Belle Islander," though 20 percent of citizenships would be open for striving immigrants, starving artists and up-and-coming entrepreneurs who don't meet the financial requirement.

Among the citizenship requirements are a command of the English language, a good credit rating and no criminal record. Mogk adds that such a scenario would make the island "a drain of talent and resources" at the expense of Detroit.

How is that not a Simpsons episode?

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #399 on: January 29, 2013, 08:50:49 AM »
Quote from: Oleg on January 28, 2013, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 28, 2013, 07:52:20 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 14, 2013, 01:50:59 PM
Quote from: thehawk on January 14, 2013, 10:10:34 AM
Quote from: Fork on January 13, 2013, 07:21:21 PM
Wonder where MikeC has been?

Wonder no more.

So they dont beleive in ownership of property....
QuoteApproved applicants receive a Lifetime Lease (paid off in only 30 years).

they state
QuoteMarxists, Socialists, Liberals and Establishment Republicans will likely find that life in our community is incompatible with their existing ideology and preferred lifestyles.

Marxists and socialsts would seem to have no problem with...

QuoteSurvival of the Citadel Community depends on making employment available for arriving families. We have already launched III Arms, a modern firearms company that will help employ the first wave of III Pioneers. III Arms is also unique in the world of firearms companies in that all profits generated are donated to the Citadel to help build our community.


This reminds me of a comic (sadly I do not remember which) who when summarizing the states said said.  "If you're a white person, and really really like other white people, Idaho is the place for you"

GOOD NEWS!  There's competition in the market.

If you have time, watch the "introduction" videos on the Blaze that are linked from that story.  He's loco.

Oh, man...

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130112/BIZ/301120319

QuoteDetroit — As the broken city thinks big and radically about its future, a developer is stepping forward with a revolutionary idea: Sell the city's Belle Isle park for $1 billion to private investors who will transform it into a free-market utopia.

The 982-acre island would then be developed into a U.S. commonwealth or city-state of 35,000 people with its own laws, customs and currency.

...

Here's the scenario for the Commonwealth of Belle Isle that Lockwood and others want to see: Private investors buy the island from a near-bankrupt Detroit for $1 billion. It then would secede from Michigan to become a semi-independent commonwealth like Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands.

Under the plan, it would become an economic and social laboratory where government is limited in scope and taxation is far different than the current U.S. system. There is no personal or corporate income tax. Much of the tax base would be provided by a different property tax — one based on the value of the land and not the value of the property.

It would take $300,000 to become a "Belle Islander," though 20 percent of citizenships would be open for striving immigrants, starving artists and up-and-coming entrepreneurs who don't meet the financial requirement.

Among the citizenship requirements are a command of the English language, a good credit rating and no criminal record. Mogk adds that such a scenario would make the island "a drain of talent and resources" at the expense of Detroit.

How is that not a Simpsons episode?

Kind of shocked that Peter Thiel wasn't somehow involved with this.

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #400 on: February 01, 2013, 09:11:10 AM »
"Man, Republicans hate Obama so much that they'd probably disagree with him if he denounced the Holocaust." - Some Democrat, probably, making a joke at some point in time.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/339003/president-obama-commemorates-senseless-holocaust-eliana-johnson

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #401 on: February 01, 2013, 09:43:41 AM »
I just love this guy; the accent really brings it all together.

QuoteI hear you loud and clear, Barack Obama. You don't represent the country that I grew up with. And your values is not going to save us. We're going to take this country back for the Lord. We're going to try to take this country back for conservatism. And we're not going to allow minorities to run roughshod over what you people believe in!

-- Arkansas state Sen. Jason Rapert (R), at a Tea Party rally in Arkansas.

Here's the video if you like that stuff too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nVKS27fLN3k
This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #402 on: February 01, 2013, 09:49:32 AM »
Quote from: Eli on February 01, 2013, 09:11:10 AM
"Man, Republicans hate Obama so much that they'd probably disagree with him if he denounced the Holocaust." - Some Democrat, probably, making a joke at some point in time.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/339003/president-obama-commemorates-senseless-holocaust-eliana-johnson

From the comments...

"Those who perished as a result of Nazi terror, millions of individual men and women and children whose lives were taken so senselessly, must never be forgotten."

-- Ronald Reagan

Remarks at a White House Meeting With Jewish Leaders, February 2, 1983

DAT REGAN IS A MUSLIN!!!
This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #403 on: February 01, 2013, 11:13:27 AM »
Quote from: Eli on February 01, 2013, 09:11:10 AM
"Man, Republicans hate Obama so much that they'd probably disagree with him if he denounced the Holocaust." - Some Democrat, probably, making a joke at some point in time.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/339003/president-obama-commemorates-senseless-holocaust-eliana-johnson

Christ on a fucking bike.
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #404 on: February 01, 2013, 01:16:22 PM »
Looks like the Dems will be keeping John Kerry's seat: "Former Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA) will not run for the U.S. Senate seat vacated by John Kerry, a source tells the Boston Herald."
This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.