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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #540 on: July 15, 2013, 10:17:31 AM »
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 15, 2013, 10:12:46 AM
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Florida, the State that gave us Marco Rubio and hanging chads, has now gifted us with a law called "stand your ground", which allows folks to arm themselves, provoke a fight, and shoot their victims dead. What would have happened if Travon Martin had a gun and was allowed to stand his ground?

The defense team did not invoke "stand your ground".

If they had, then the prosecution could have argued that Travon Martin stood his.

And much like the rest of their actual case, they'd have little evidence to support that hypothetical contention.

Yeah, it would have been a much larger miscarriage of justice if the jury had returned a guilty verdict. There was one huge fuckload of reasonable doubt.
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #541 on: July 15, 2013, 10:31:30 AM »
Quote from: Fork on July 15, 2013, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 15, 2013, 10:12:46 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 15, 2013, 10:09:36 AM
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Florida, the State that gave us Marco Rubio and hanging chads, has now gifted us with a law called "stand your ground", which allows folks to arm themselves, provoke a fight, and shoot their victims dead. What would have happened if Travon Martin had a gun and was allowed to stand his ground?

The defense team did not invoke "stand your ground".

If they had, then the prosecution could have argued that Travon Martin stood his.

And much like the rest of their actual case, they'd have little evidence to support that hypothetical contention.

Yeah, it would have been a much larger miscarriage of justice if the jury had returned a guilty verdict. There was one huge fuckload of reasonable doubt.

As Gil's article noted though, Zimmerman will now certainly face a wrongful death civil suit and possibly criminal charges from DOJ about whether he violated Martin's civil rights - specifically his right to life. Butthurt has only begun to be achieved. 
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #542 on: July 15, 2013, 10:34:56 AM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 15, 2013, 10:31:30 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 15, 2013, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 15, 2013, 10:12:46 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 15, 2013, 10:09:36 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 15, 2013, 09:15:45 AM
Quote from: CBStew on July 14, 2013, 12:15:32 PM
Florida, the State that gave us Marco Rubio and hanging chads, has now gifted us with a law called "stand your ground", which allows folks to arm themselves, provoke a fight, and shoot their victims dead. What would have happened if Travon Martin had a gun and was allowed to stand his ground?

The defense team did not invoke "stand your ground".

If they had, then the prosecution could have argued that Travon Martin stood his.

And much like the rest of their actual case, they'd have little evidence to support that hypothetical contention.

Yeah, it would have been a much larger miscarriage of justice if the jury had returned a guilty verdict. There was one huge fuckload of reasonable doubt.

As Gil's article noted though, Zimmerman will now certainly face a wrongful death civil suit and possibly criminal charges from DOJ about whether he violated Martin's civil rights - specifically his right to life. Butthurt has only begun to be achieved. 

The DOJ's case, if they even decide to press it, will be even more difficult to prove.  However, the civil suit is where this saga will find a resolution.  Zimmerman's life is effectively over, though he'll never see the inside of a jail...unless he gets arrested trying to steal his own sports memorabilia.
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #543 on: July 15, 2013, 10:40:01 AM »
Zimmerman might be better off in jail. Or maybe not.

Either way the dude is in trouble.

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #544 on: July 15, 2013, 10:58:08 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on July 15, 2013, 10:40:01 AM
Zimmerman might be better off in jail. Or maybe not.

Either way the dude is in trouble.

So he'll have to keep looking over his shoulder for armed vigilantes looking to take the law into their own hands?

We're going to need an irony ruling here...

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #545 on: July 15, 2013, 11:03:03 AM »
In the interest of healing the nation, I'm going to allow this.

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #546 on: July 17, 2013, 04:00:15 PM »
The battle lines for Illinois' next governor are being drawn.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-illinois-campaign-finance-0717-20130717,0,6635057.story

IT'S A WHOLE MIASMA OF SUCK!!

BRING BACK OBERWEIS!!
This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #547 on: July 22, 2013, 05:11:55 PM »
This is so bad, I'd root for the Orioles over this fucking team, but I can't. Because they're a fucking drug and you can't kick it and they'll never win anything and they'll always suck, but it'll always be sunny at Wrigley and there will be tits and ivy and an old scoreboard and fucking Chads.

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #548 on: July 22, 2013, 09:39:54 PM »
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 22, 2013, 05:11:55 PM
Thank God for the First Amendment.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/07/22/david_cameron_war_on_porn_isp_family_filters_will_block_adult_content_by.html

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!?!

Think the Daily Mail has a sense of humor, or a Yellonesque lack of self awareness?

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #549 on: July 22, 2013, 09:52:38 PM »
George Zimmerman: Model citizen!
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #550 on: July 30, 2013, 09:32:32 PM »
Apparently Anthony Weiner hired the author of that sorority email as his communications director...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/07/top-weiner-aide-trashes-intern.php

QuoteTuesday was an angry day in Weinerland.

The campaign staff awoke to see their former intern, Olivia Nuzzi, on the front cover of the Daily News. Inside the paper was an article bylined by Nuzzi in which she told a rather unflattering tale of her experience working on Anthony Weiner's mayoral bid.

Now, Team Weiner is firing back. TPM called Weiner's communications director Barbara Morgan to discuss an unrelated story Tuesday and she went off on a curse-filled rant about Nuzzi, describing her as a fame hungry "bitch" who "sucked" at her job. Morgan also called Nuzzi a "slutbag," "twat," and "cunt" while threatening to sue her.

...

Morgan went on to suggest Nuzzi would be unable to get a job in New York City's political scene as a result of her actions.

"Fucking slutbag. Nice fucking glamour shot on the cover of the Daily News. Man, see if you ever get a job in this town again," said Morgan.

...

"It's all bullshit," she said. "I mean, it's such bullshit. She could fucking — fucking twat."

...

Morgan also expressed disbelief that Nuzzi criticized her credentials.

"And then like she had the fucking balls to like trash me in the paper. And be like, 'His communications director was last the press secretary of the Department of Education in New Jersey," Morgan said. "You know what? Fuck you, you little cunt. I'm not joking, I am going to sue her."

...
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #551 on: July 30, 2013, 10:25:41 PM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 30, 2013, 09:32:32 PM
Apparently Anthony Weiner hired the author of that sorority email as his communications director...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/07/top-weiner-aide-trashes-intern.php

QuoteTuesday was an angry day in Weinerland.

The campaign staff awoke to see their former intern, Olivia Nuzzi, on the front cover of the Daily News. Inside the paper was an article bylined by Nuzzi in which she told a rather unflattering tale of her experience working on Anthony Weiner's mayoral bid.

Now, Team Weiner is firing back. TPM called Weiner's communications director Barbara Morgan to discuss an unrelated story Tuesday and she went off on a curse-filled rant about Nuzzi, describing her as a fame hungry "bitch" who "sucked" at her job. Morgan also called Nuzzi a "slutbag," "twat," and "cunt" while threatening to sue her.

...

Morgan went on to suggest Nuzzi would be unable to get a job in New York City's political scene as a result of her actions.

"Fucking slutbag. Nice fucking glamour shot on the cover of the Daily News. Man, see if you ever get a job in this town again," said Morgan.

...

"It's all bullshit," she said. "I mean, it's such bullshit. She could fucking — fucking twat."

...

Morgan also expressed disbelief that Nuzzi criticized her credentials.

"And then like she had the fucking balls to like trash me in the paper. And be like, 'His communications director was last the press secretary of the Department of Education in New Jersey," Morgan said. "You know what? Fuck you, you little cunt. I'm not joking, I am going to sue her."

...

That this woman was the voice of New Jersey's educational system is not surprising. Some more great stuff:

http://www.businessinsider.com/barbara-morgan-olivia-nuzzi-rant-anthony-weiner-2013-7

QuoteShe wrote that many interns joined the Weiner campaign to get closer to his wife, Huma Abedin, with hopes of landing a role on any potential campaign for Hillary Clinton in 2016. She said that one campaign staffer had left because he had only been paid one-third of what he was promised. And she said that Weiner had incorrectly referred to multiple interns as "Monica."

We emailed Morgan to see if she intended her comments to be seen.

Her response: "NO NO NO NO NO."


Here is Morgan's full statement:

"In a moment of frustration, I used inappropriate language in what I thought was an off the record conversation. It was wrong and I am very sorry, which is what I said tonight when I called and emailed Olivia to apologize."

Barbara Morgan (the blonde in the background behind the reporter)

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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #552 on: August 12, 2013, 10:18:07 AM »
Imprisoned for a third of his life without charges. Beaten, abused, tortured. Have a good life, guy.

QuoteNabil has not been the only "mistake" in our war on terror. Hundreds of other Arabs have been sent to Gitmo, chewed up by the system there, never charged and eventually transferred back to their home countries. (These transfers are carried out as secretly and as quietly as possible.) There have been no apologies, no official statements of regret, no compensation, nothing of the sort. The United States was dead wrong, but no one can admit it.

In Nabil's case, the United States military and intelligence agents relied on corrupt informants who were raking in American cash, or even worse, jailhouse snitches who swapped false stories for candy bars, porn and sometimes just a break from their own beatings.

Last week, the Obama administration announced that it was transferring some more Arab prisoners back to Algeria. It is likely that Nabil will be one of them, and if that happens another tragic mistake will be made. His nightmare will only continue. He will be homeless. He will have no support to reintegrate him into a society where many will be hostile to a former Gitmo detainee, either on the assumption that he is an extremist or because he refuses to join the extremist opposition to the Algerian government. Instead of showing some guts and admitting they were wrong, the American authorities will whisk him away, dump him on the streets of Algiers and wash their hands.

What should they do? Or what should we do?

First, admit the mistake and make the apology. Second, provide compensation. United States taxpayers have spent $2 million a year for 11 years to keep Nabil at Gitmo; give the guy a few thousand bucks to get on his feet. Third, pressure the French to allow his re-entry.

This sounds simple, but it will never happen.
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #553 on: August 12, 2013, 12:01:11 PM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 12, 2013, 10:18:07 AM
Imprisoned for a third of his life without charges. Beaten, abused, tortured. Have a good life, guy.

QuoteNabil has not been the only "mistake" in our war on terror. Hundreds of other Arabs have been sent to Gitmo, chewed up by the system there, never charged and eventually transferred back to their home countries. (These transfers are carried out as secretly and as quietly as possible.) There have been no apologies, no official statements of regret, no compensation, nothing of the sort. The United States was dead wrong, but no one can admit it.

In Nabil's case, the United States military and intelligence agents relied on corrupt informants who were raking in American cash, or even worse, jailhouse snitches who swapped false stories for candy bars, porn and sometimes just a break from their own beatings.

Last week, the Obama administration announced that it was transferring some more Arab prisoners back to Algeria. It is likely that Nabil will be one of them, and if that happens another tragic mistake will be made. His nightmare will only continue. He will be homeless. He will have no support to reintegrate him into a society where many will be hostile to a former Gitmo detainee, either on the assumption that he is an extremist or because he refuses to join the extremist opposition to the Algerian government. Instead of showing some guts and admitting they were wrong, the American authorities will whisk him away, dump him on the streets of Algiers and wash their hands.

What should they do? Or what should we do?

First, admit the mistake and make the apology. Second, provide compensation. United States taxpayers have spent $2 million a year for 11 years to keep Nabil at Gitmo; give the guy a few thousand bucks to get on his feet. Third, pressure the French to allow his re-entry.

This sounds simple, but it will never happen.

Throwing a bunch of Arabs into jail without charges, holding them for years, then sending them home with no reparations, so they can tell everyone about it?

What could possibly go wrong?
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Re: Morning in America: Butthurt Achieved
« Reply #554 on: August 12, 2013, 12:02:36 PM »
Quote from: Fork on August 12, 2013, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 12, 2013, 10:18:07 AM
Imprisoned for a third of his life without charges. Beaten, abused, tortured. Have a good life, guy.

QuoteNabil has not been the only "mistake" in our war on terror. Hundreds of other Arabs have been sent to Gitmo, chewed up by the system there, never charged and eventually transferred back to their home countries. (These transfers are carried out as secretly and as quietly as possible.) There have been no apologies, no official statements of regret, no compensation, nothing of the sort. The United States was dead wrong, but no one can admit it.

In Nabil's case, the United States military and intelligence agents relied on corrupt informants who were raking in American cash, or even worse, jailhouse snitches who swapped false stories for candy bars, porn and sometimes just a break from their own beatings.

Last week, the Obama administration announced that it was transferring some more Arab prisoners back to Algeria. It is likely that Nabil will be one of them, and if that happens another tragic mistake will be made. His nightmare will only continue. He will be homeless. He will have no support to reintegrate him into a society where many will be hostile to a former Gitmo detainee, either on the assumption that he is an extremist or because he refuses to join the extremist opposition to the Algerian government. Instead of showing some guts and admitting they were wrong, the American authorities will whisk him away, dump him on the streets of Algiers and wash their hands.

What should they do? Or what should we do?

First, admit the mistake and make the apology. Second, provide compensation. United States taxpayers have spent $2 million a year for 11 years to keep Nabil at Gitmo; give the guy a few thousand bucks to get on his feet. Third, pressure the French to allow his re-entry.

This sounds simple, but it will never happen.

Throwing a bunch of Arabs into jail without charges, holding them for years, then sending them home with no reparations, so they can tell everyone about it?

What could possibly go wrong?

Thanks Obama!
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