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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #195 on: September 13, 2015, 07:34:40 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on September 13, 2015, 07:08:28 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 13, 2015, 09:17:22 AM
I know it works differently than politics but I wonder if there's any chance Greinke and Kershaw somehow "split" the vote, paving the way for Jake.

If half the writers vote Kershaw first and the other half vote Greinke first and everyone votes Arrieta second, would that do it?

No. It's basically impossible to win the award without receiving 1st place votes.

1st - 7 pts per vote
2nd - 4
3rd - 3
4th - 2
5th - 1

If (by some statistical improbability) Kershaw/Greinke each received 15 1st place votes and 15 3rd place votes while Arrieta swept all 30 2nd place votes:

Kershaw: 15 * 7 + 15 * 3 = 150 points
Greinke: 15 * 7 + 15 * 3 = 150 points
Arrieta: 30 * 4 = 120 points

Now, if Kershaw and Greinke received 15 1st place votes and 15 fifth place votes, and Arrieta swept all 30 of the 2nd place votes, you'd have a 3-way tie at 120 points.

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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #196 on: September 14, 2015, 08:03:12 AM »
Quote from: ChuckD on September 13, 2015, 07:34:40 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 13, 2015, 07:08:28 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 13, 2015, 09:17:22 AM
I know it works differently than politics but I wonder if there's any chance Greinke and Kershaw somehow "split" the vote, paving the way for Jake.

If half the writers vote Kershaw first and the other half vote Greinke first and everyone votes Arrieta second, would that do it?

No. It's basically impossible to win the award without receiving 1st place votes.

1st - 7 pts per vote
2nd - 4
3rd - 3
4th - 2
5th - 1

If (by some statistical improbability) Kershaw/Greinke each received 15 1st place votes and 15 3rd place votes while Arrieta swept all 30 2nd place votes:

Kershaw: 15 * 7 + 15 * 3 = 150 points
Greinke: 15 * 7 + 15 * 3 = 150 points
Arrieta: 30 * 4 = 120 points

Now, if Kershaw and Greinke received 15 1st place votes and 15 fifth place votes, and Arrieta swept all 30 of the 2nd place votes, you'd have a 3-way tie at 120 points.

And we could all enjoy the witch hunt for the guys who decided Kershaw or Greinke were the 5th best pitcher in the National League.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #197 on: September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM »
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ
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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #198 on: September 22, 2015, 09:19:57 PM »
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ

Since the beginning of August: 10 GS, 74.1 IP, 7 R, 4 ER, 38 H, 1 HR, 71 SO, 14 BB, 0.70 WHIP, 0.48 ERA, 5.1 SO:BB

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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #199 on: September 22, 2015, 09:29:15 PM »
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ

Never assume. Jake has no need of bullpens
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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #200 on: September 22, 2015, 10:03:29 PM »
CG 3H SO with 11K's, what a bum, Feldman would've had at least a no-no.

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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #201 on: September 23, 2015, 07:24:51 AM »
Quote from: ChuckD on September 22, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ

Since the beginning of August: 10 GS, 74.1 IP, 7 R, 4 ER, 38 H, 1 HR, 71 SO, 14 BB, 0.70 WHIP, 0.48 ERA, 5.1 SO:BB

I can safely say I've never seen anything like this.

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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #202 on: September 23, 2015, 07:28:03 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on September 23, 2015, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 22, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ

Since the beginning of August: 10 GS, 74.1 IP, 7 R, 4 ER, 38 H, 1 HR, 71 SO, 14 BB, 0.70 WHIP, 0.48 ERA, 5.1 SO:BB

I can safely say I've never seen anything like this.

Closest thing I could compare it to would be '84 Sutcliffe and I'd be willing to bet Sut's numbers don't hold a candle to this.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #203 on: September 23, 2015, 08:11:40 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on September 23, 2015, 07:28:03 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 23, 2015, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 22, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ

Since the beginning of August: 10 GS, 74.1 IP, 7 R, 4 ER, 38 H, 1 HR, 71 SO, 14 BB, 0.70 WHIP, 0.48 ERA, 5.1 SO:BB

I can safely say I've never seen anything like this.



Closest thing I could compare it to would be '84 Sutcliffe and I'd be willing to bet Sut's numbers don't hold a candle to this.

Quick glance of Sut's splits for 1984 tell me that if he and Jake were on the 84 Cubs, the Red Baron would have started game 2.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #204 on: September 23, 2015, 08:20:59 AM »
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 23, 2015, 08:11:40 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 23, 2015, 07:28:03 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 23, 2015, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 22, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ

Since the beginning of August: 10 GS, 74.1 IP, 7 R, 4 ER, 38 H, 1 HR, 71 SO, 14 BB, 0.70 WHIP, 0.48 ERA, 5.1 SO:BB

I can safely say I've never seen anything like this.

Quick glance of Sut's splits for 1984 tell me that if he and Jake were on the 84 Cubs, the Red Baron would have started game 2.

Closest thing I could compare it to would be '84 Sutcliffe and I'd be willing to bet Sut's numbers don't hold a candle to this.

Quick glance at this post tells me that Fork still hasn't figured out how quotes work.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #205 on: September 23, 2015, 08:24:22 AM »
Quote from: Tonker on September 23, 2015, 08:20:59 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on September 23, 2015, 08:11:40 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 23, 2015, 07:28:03 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 23, 2015, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 22, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ

Since the beginning of August: 10 GS, 74.1 IP, 7 R, 4 ER, 38 H, 1 HR, 71 SO, 14 BB, 0.70 WHIP, 0.48 ERA, 5.1 SO:BB

I can safely say I've never seen anything like this.

Quick glance of Sut's splits for 1984 tell me that if he and Jake were on the 84 Cubs, the Red Baron would have started game 2.

Closest thing I could compare it to would be '84 Sutcliffe and I'd be willing to bet Sut's numbers don't hold a candle to this.

Quick glance at this post tells me that Fork still hasn't figured out how quotes work.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #206 on: September 23, 2015, 10:50:13 AM »
DPD.

ESPN puts Jake's run into context.

QuoteJake Arrieta has an ERA of 0.86 in 13 starts since the ASB. No pitcher has ever recorded a sub-1.00 ERA after ASB with at least 13 starts.

QuoteJake Arrieta's shutout gives him a 0.48 ERA since Aug. 4, 4th-best mark in 10-game stretch since ER became official in both leagues in 1913.

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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #207 on: September 23, 2015, 12:04:18 PM »
Quote from: PANK! on September 23, 2015, 07:28:03 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 23, 2015, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 22, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ

Since the beginning of August: 10 GS, 74.1 IP, 7 R, 4 ER, 38 H, 1 HR, 71 SO, 14 BB, 0.70 WHIP, 0.48 ERA, 5.1 SO:BB

I can safely say I've never seen anything like this.

Closest thing I could compare it to would be '84 Sutcliffe and I'd be willing to bet Sut's numbers don't hold a candle to this.

When adjusted for league environment, Prior's August/September in '03 was pretty fucking special.  And, yet, I'm still guessing Arrieta's run blows it away.

Just for reference, Prior's last 11 starts in '03:
82.2 IP, 67 H, 95:16 K:BB, 1.52 ERA.  Despite a .309 BABIP, he still only gave up a slash line of 221/265/327.  That ERA must have been an ERA+ in the 250 range, I'm guessing.

For league reference, it seems Prior led the league in FIP that year with a 2.47.

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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #208 on: September 23, 2015, 12:14:04 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on September 23, 2015, 12:04:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 23, 2015, 07:28:03 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 23, 2015, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 22, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ

Since the beginning of August: 10 GS, 74.1 IP, 7 R, 4 ER, 38 H, 1 HR, 71 SO, 14 BB, 0.70 WHIP, 0.48 ERA, 5.1 SO:BB

I can safely say I've never seen anything like this.

Closest thing I could compare it to would be '84 Sutcliffe and I'd be willing to bet Sut's numbers don't hold a candle to this.

When adjusted for league environment, Prior's August/September in '03 was pretty fucking special.  And, yet, I'm still guessing Arrieta's run blows it away.

Just for reference, Prior's last 11 starts in '03:
82.2 IP, 67 H, 95:16 K:BB, 1.52 ERA.  Despite a .309 BABIP, he still only gave up a slash line of 221/265/327.  That ERA must have been an ERA+ in the 250 range, I'm guessing.

For league reference, it seems Prior led the league in FIP that year with a 2.47.

I've always felt Prior could've been the Cy Young winner that year. As I said earlier, I never thought I'd see better pitching from a Cub than what Prior did those months in '03. I've gotten used to being wrong.
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Re: Jake Arrieta Premature Ejaculation Thread
« Reply #209 on: September 23, 2015, 12:17:03 PM »
Quote from: Canadouche on September 23, 2015, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: Oleg on September 23, 2015, 12:04:18 PM
Quote from: PANK! on September 23, 2015, 07:28:03 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 23, 2015, 07:24:51 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on September 22, 2015, 09:19:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2015, 09:08:18 PM
Assuming he's done....8 shutout innings and an ERA down to 1.88. Jesus Christ

Since the beginning of August: 10 GS, 74.1 IP, 7 R, 4 ER, 38 H, 1 HR, 71 SO, 14 BB, 0.70 WHIP, 0.48 ERA, 5.1 SO:BB

I can safely say I've never seen anything like this.

Closest thing I could compare it to would be '84 Sutcliffe and I'd be willing to bet Sut's numbers don't hold a candle to this.

When adjusted for league environment, Prior's August/September in '03 was pretty fucking special.  And, yet, I'm still guessing Arrieta's run blows it away.

Just for reference, Prior's last 11 starts in '03:
82.2 IP, 67 H, 95:16 K:BB, 1.52 ERA.  Despite a .309 BABIP, he still only gave up a slash line of 221/265/327.  That ERA must have been an ERA+ in the 250 range, I'm guessing.

For league reference, it seems Prior led the league in FIP that year with a 2.47.

I've always felt Prior could've been the Cy Young winner that year. As I said earlier, I never thought I'd see better pitching from a Cub than what Prior did those months in '03. I've gotten used to being wrong.

I think his year in '03 gets lost in Cubs history.  It truly was an amazing performance.  He was a 7.8 fWAR pitcher that year.