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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #90 on: November 12, 2013, 09:35:42 AM »
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That's why I've kind of felt this year was more or less a punt.

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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #91 on: November 12, 2013, 09:41:28 AM »
I thought that you could sign a person to a more cap friendly deal if you added some years and spread the damage rather than 14-16 MM against the cap with the franchise tag. And they need a lot of cap space to spare. That was my thought. And I thought Cutler would probably be open to such an arrangement. If this is wrong, I apologize.

But I thought that was what the Cowboys did with Romo. And everybody saw the total dollars on the contract and freaked out but upon inspection it was a good deal for both parties.
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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #92 on: November 15, 2013, 10:31:20 AM »
TIME TO POST!

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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #93 on: November 15, 2013, 10:59:29 AM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 12, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
I thought that you could sign a person to a more cap friendly deal if you added some years and spread the damage rather than 14-16 MM against the cap with the franchise tag. And they need a lot of cap space to spare. That was my thought. And I thought Cutler would probably be open to such an arrangement. If this is wrong, I apologize.

But I thought that was what the Cowboys did with Romo. And everybody saw the total dollars on the contract and freaked out but upon inspection it was a good deal for both parties.

$14-16 million against the cap?  I think it'd be near $19 million.

The franchise tag averages the top 5 salaries at the player's position, and last I checked QBs get paid somewhat handsomely.

But the question that I have is, assuming the Bears offered Cutler a middling-type offer (like 4 years, $60MM, $25MM bonus) and he decides to look elsewhere, what team is going to be crazy enough to throw $100 or $110MM at him?

Jacksonville?
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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #94 on: November 15, 2013, 11:03:20 AM »
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 10:59:29 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 12, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
I thought that you could sign a person to a more cap friendly deal if you added some years and spread the damage rather than 14-16 MM against the cap with the franchise tag. And they need a lot of cap space to spare. That was my thought. And I thought Cutler would probably be open to such an arrangement. If this is wrong, I apologize.

But I thought that was what the Cowboys did with Romo. And everybody saw the total dollars on the contract and freaked out but upon inspection it was a good deal for both parties.

$14-16 million against the cap?  I think it'd be near $19 million.

The franchise tag averages the top 5 salaries at the player's position, and last I checked QBs get paid somewhat handsomely.

But the question that I have is, assuming the Bears offered Cutler a middling-type offer (like 4 years, $60MM, $25MM bonus) and he decides to look elsewhere, what team is going to be crazy enough to throw $100 or $110MM at him?

Jacksonville?

Jacksonville's getting a top 2 pick in the draft, they're not taking Cutler over Teddy Bridgewater. 

No chance in hell. 
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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #95 on: November 15, 2013, 11:32:07 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on November 15, 2013, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 10:59:29 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 12, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
I thought that you could sign a person to a more cap friendly deal if you added some years and spread the damage rather than 14-16 MM against the cap with the franchise tag. And they need a lot of cap space to spare. That was my thought. And I thought Cutler would probably be open to such an arrangement. If this is wrong, I apologize.

But I thought that was what the Cowboys did with Romo. And everybody saw the total dollars on the contract and freaked out but upon inspection it was a good deal for both parties.

$14-16 million against the cap?  I think it'd be near $19 million.

The franchise tag averages the top 5 salaries at the player's position, and last I checked QBs get paid somewhat handsomely.

But the question that I have is, assuming the Bears offered Cutler a middling-type offer (like 4 years, $60MM, $25MM bonus) and he decides to look elsewhere, what team is going to be crazy enough to throw $100 or $110MM at him?

Jacksonville?

Jacksonville's getting a top 2 pick in the draft, they're not taking Cutler over Teddy Bridgewater. 

No chance in hell. 

I suppose Minnesota could make an offer, but I doubt they'd be able to offer more than the Bears.

Plus, why would he want to play for Minnesota?

I think it's going to be tough for Cutler, seeing as this is probably going to be his last big money contract, but the teams that could offer to fork up that money are not going to be the most desirable cities.

Would Arizona or Texas want Cutler?
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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #96 on: November 15, 2013, 11:59:17 AM »
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 15, 2013, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 10:59:29 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 12, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
I thought that you could sign a person to a more cap friendly deal if you added some years and spread the damage rather than 14-16 MM against the cap with the franchise tag. And they need a lot of cap space to spare. That was my thought. And I thought Cutler would probably be open to such an arrangement. If this is wrong, I apologize.

But I thought that was what the Cowboys did with Romo. And everybody saw the total dollars on the contract and freaked out but upon inspection it was a good deal for both parties.

$14-16 million against the cap?  I think it'd be near $19 million.

The franchise tag averages the top 5 salaries at the player's position, and last I checked QBs get paid somewhat handsomely.

But the question that I have is, assuming the Bears offered Cutler a middling-type offer (like 4 years, $60MM, $25MM bonus) and he decides to look elsewhere, what team is going to be crazy enough to throw $100 or $110MM at him?

Jacksonville?

Jacksonville's getting a top 2 pick in the draft, they're not taking Cutler over Teddy Bridgewater. 

No chance in hell. 

I suppose Minnesota could make an offer, but I doubt they'd be able to offer more than the Bears.

Plus, why would he want to play for Minnesota?

I think it's going to be tough for Cutler, seeing as this is probably going to be his last big money contract, but the teams that could offer to fork up that money are not going to be the most desirable cities.

Would Arizona or Texas want Cutler?

Houston seems like the best fit. Where else could he go that has a decent team and doesn't have a young QB they've committed to? Arizona, Cleveland, Minnesota, Tennessee... meh.

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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #97 on: November 15, 2013, 12:05:09 PM »
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2013, 11:59:17 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 15, 2013, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 10:59:29 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 12, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
I thought that you could sign a person to a more cap friendly deal if you added some years and spread the damage rather than 14-16 MM against the cap with the franchise tag. And they need a lot of cap space to spare. That was my thought. And I thought Cutler would probably be open to such an arrangement. If this is wrong, I apologize.

But I thought that was what the Cowboys did with Romo. And everybody saw the total dollars on the contract and freaked out but upon inspection it was a good deal for both parties.

$14-16 million against the cap?  I think it'd be near $19 million.

The franchise tag averages the top 5 salaries at the player's position, and last I checked QBs get paid somewhat handsomely.

But the question that I have is, assuming the Bears offered Cutler a middling-type offer (like 4 years, $60MM, $25MM bonus) and he decides to look elsewhere, what team is going to be crazy enough to throw $100 or $110MM at him?

Jacksonville?

Jacksonville's getting a top 2 pick in the draft, they're not taking Cutler over Teddy Bridgewater. 

No chance in hell. 

I suppose Minnesota could make an offer, but I doubt they'd be able to offer more than the Bears.

Plus, why would he want to play for Minnesota?

I think it's going to be tough for Cutler, seeing as this is probably going to be his last big money contract, but the teams that could offer to fork up that money are not going to be the most desirable cities.

Would Arizona or Texas want Cutler?

Houston seems like the best fit. Where else could he go that has a decent team and doesn't have a young QB they've committed to? Arizona, Cleveland, Minnesota, Tennessee... meh.

Ahem...



Actually, Arians and Cutler would be a pretty decent fit.

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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #98 on: November 15, 2013, 12:12:34 PM »
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2013, 11:59:17 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 15, 2013, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 10:59:29 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 12, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
I thought that you could sign a person to a more cap friendly deal if you added some years and spread the damage rather than 14-16 MM against the cap with the franchise tag. And they need a lot of cap space to spare. That was my thought. And I thought Cutler would probably be open to such an arrangement. If this is wrong, I apologize.

But I thought that was what the Cowboys did with Romo. And everybody saw the total dollars on the contract and freaked out but upon inspection it was a good deal for both parties.

$14-16 million against the cap?  I think it'd be near $19 million.

The franchise tag averages the top 5 salaries at the player's position, and last I checked QBs get paid somewhat handsomely.

But the question that I have is, assuming the Bears offered Cutler a middling-type offer (like 4 years, $60MM, $25MM bonus) and he decides to look elsewhere, what team is going to be crazy enough to throw $100 or $110MM at him?

Jacksonville?

Jacksonville's getting a top 2 pick in the draft, they're not taking Cutler over Teddy Bridgewater.  

No chance in hell.  

I suppose Minnesota could make an offer, but I doubt they'd be able to offer more than the Bears.

Plus, why would he want to play for Minnesota?

I think it's going to be tough for Cutler, seeing as this is probably going to be his last big money contract, but the teams that could offer to fork up that money are not going to be the most desirable cities.

Would Arizona or Texas want Cutler?

Houston seems like the best fit. Where else could he go that has a decent team and doesn't have a young QB they've committed to? Arizona, Cleveland, Minnesota, Tennessee... meh.

Titans or Jacksonville (if they bite the bullet and move to LA) might be where he'd be open to going for less.

But if he gets  a 3 or 4 year deal for non-insulting money with the Bears, why not stay? He has a foundation of an O-line, finally. He'll have Brandon Marshall to throw to, not to mention Marty B. and Alshon Jeffrey. If Forte has a couple more good years in him, he'll be as set up to succeed here than anywhere else.

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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #99 on: November 15, 2013, 12:34:00 PM »
Quote from: Brownie on November 15, 2013, 12:12:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 15, 2013, 11:59:17 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on November 15, 2013, 11:03:20 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 10:59:29 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on November 12, 2013, 09:41:28 AM
I thought that you could sign a person to a more cap friendly deal if you added some years and spread the damage rather than 14-16 MM against the cap with the franchise tag. And they need a lot of cap space to spare. That was my thought. And I thought Cutler would probably be open to such an arrangement. If this is wrong, I apologize.

But I thought that was what the Cowboys did with Romo. And everybody saw the total dollars on the contract and freaked out but upon inspection it was a good deal for both parties.

$14-16 million against the cap?  I think it'd be near $19 million.

The franchise tag averages the top 5 salaries at the player's position, and last I checked QBs get paid somewhat handsomely.

But the question that I have is, assuming the Bears offered Cutler a middling-type offer (like 4 years, $60MM, $25MM bonus) and he decides to look elsewhere, what team is going to be crazy enough to throw $100 or $110MM at him?

Jacksonville?

Jacksonville's getting a top 2 pick in the draft, they're not taking Cutler over Teddy Bridgewater.  

No chance in hell.  

I suppose Minnesota could make an offer, but I doubt they'd be able to offer more than the Bears.

Plus, why would he want to play for Minnesota?

I think it's going to be tough for Cutler, seeing as this is probably going to be his last big money contract, but the teams that could offer to fork up that money are not going to be the most desirable cities.

Would Arizona or Texas want Cutler?

Houston seems like the best fit. Where else could he go that has a decent team and doesn't have a young QB they've committed to? Arizona, Cleveland, Minnesota, Tennessee... meh.

Titans or Jacksonville (if they bite the bullet and move to LA) might be where he'd be open to going for less.

But if he gets  a 3 or 4 year deal for non-insulting money with the Bears, why not stay? He has a foundation of an O-line, finally. He'll have Brandon Marshall to throw to, not to mention Marty B. and Alshon Jeffrey. If Forte has a couple more good years in him, he'll be as set up to succeed here than anywhere else.

Not to turn away from the Cutler topic, but I sincerely doubt that LA will ever get another NFL team.

I think the situation of having LA sans NFL is more profitable to the current owners than if they had a team in place.  Without a team there, every owner who wants more public money for stadiums or something extra from a TV deal or whatever business arrangement can just threaten to move to LA, forcing the other side to cave.
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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #100 on: November 15, 2013, 04:56:08 PM »
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 12:34:00 PM
Not to turn away from the Cutler topic, but I sincerely doubt that LA will ever get another NFL team.


Why does LA need an NFL team?  They have USC.
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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #101 on: November 16, 2013, 09:13:41 AM »
Quote from: CBStew on November 15, 2013, 04:56:08 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on November 15, 2013, 12:34:00 PM
Not to turn away from the Cutler topic, but I sincerely doubt that LA will ever get another NFL team.


Why does LA need an NFL team?  They have USC.

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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #102 on: November 17, 2013, 12:47:32 PM »
Ed Curran just informed me that tornadoes are dangerous.
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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #103 on: November 17, 2013, 01:03:18 PM »
Quote from: flannj on November 17, 2013, 12:47:32 PM
Ed Curran just informed me that tornadoes are dangerous.

The've delayed a football game. If that doesn't illustrate how dangerous tornadoes are, I don't know what would.
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Re: Systems of Football: The All-Purpose Bears Game Thread
« Reply #104 on: November 17, 2013, 01:28:45 PM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 17, 2013, 01:03:18 PM
Quote from: flannj on November 17, 2013, 12:47:32 PM
Ed Curran just informed me that tornadoes are dangerous.

The've delayed a football game. If that doesn't illustrate how dangerous tornadoes are, I don't know what would.

He said that if you are in the path of a tornado you should get in a tub and put on a bike helmet to protect your head.
I'm picturing Huey yelling at his family to go find their own tub.
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