Beer

[PenFoe]

For the people out there who prefer cider, Stella Artois just might be the very best.

*blink*

Yeah.  I wrote a post some time ago pooh-poohing this but it got lost and I couldn't be arsed to go back and write it again.  I understand that this is entirely a matter of taste and as such, completely subjective... but anyone who thinks that Stella Artois cider is the very best really needs to try more ciders.  It's fine.  Good, even.  But the very best?  Nope.

I thought cider was for the gheys and such.

It was for a while until the Gluten-Frees got a hold of it and took it mainstream. 
Cider is acceptable again in many circles. 

Not mine, but others.

I love a good, dry cider every once in a while and I don't give a shit what you fuckers call me because of it.

Sweet ciders are for those who miss the halcyon days Bartles and James.

Well fuck you very much too.

A couple years back I was working on a cider project for New Belgium and did an informal focus group/taste testing of what's currently out there to look for white space.

Most of it was pretty terrible, but there were a couple sweets that were crowd pleasers. The dryer ones generally performed better.

[flannj]

For the people out there who prefer cider, Stella Artois just might be the very best.

*blink*

Yeah.  I wrote a post some time ago pooh-poohing this but it got lost and I couldn't be arsed to go back and write it again.  I understand that this is entirely a matter of taste and as such, completely subjective... but anyone who thinks that Stella Artois cider is the very best really needs to try more ciders.  It's fine.  Good, even.  But the very best?  Nope.

I thought cider was for the gheys and such.

It was for a while until the Gluten-Frees got a hold of it and took it mainstream. 
Cider is acceptable again in many circles. 

Not mine, but others.

I love a good, dry cider every once in a while and I don't give a shit what you fuckers call me because of it.

Sweet ciders are for those who miss the halcyon days Bartles and James.

Well fuck you very much too.

For your support.

[Wheezer]

For the people out there who prefer cider, Stella Artois just might be the very best.

*blink*

Yeah.  I wrote a post some time ago pooh-poohing this but it got lost and I couldn't be arsed to go back and write it again.  I understand that this is entirely a matter of taste and as such, completely subjective... but anyone who thinks that Stella Artois cider is the very best really needs to try more ciders.  It's fine.  Good, even.  But the very best?  Nope.

I thought cider was for the gheys and such.

It was for a while until the Gluten-Frees got a hold of it and took it mainstream. 
Cider is acceptable again in many circles. 

Not mine, but others.

I love a good, dry cider every once in a while and I don't give a shit what you fuckers call me because of it.

Sweet ciders are for those who miss the halcyon days Bartles and James.

Well fuck you very much too.

A couple years back I was working on a cider project for New Belgium and did an informal focus group/taste testing of what's currently out there to look for white space.

Most of it was pretty terrible, but there were a couple sweets that were crowd pleasers. The dryer ones generally performed better.

The Seattle semi-sweet was much more dry than I expected. I'm not paying $12 for a four-pack, but I think that was the best of the bunch.

[Wheezer]

I find the Dogfish Head Sea Quech Ale to be a remarkably good example of the sour style, even though it's mislabeled as a session beer at 4.9% ABV.

[Wheezer]

On the other hand, the Lagunitas Dark Swan is rather meh, as well as being overpriced. Great, 8.7% ABV, whatever.

[Tonker]

I find the Dogfish Head Sea Quech Ale to be a remarkably good example of the sour style, even though it's mislabeled as a session beer at 4.9% ABV.

4.9% is definitely top end, but I'd still consider that a session beer.  Is there an official scale for these things?

[PenFoe]

I find the Dogfish Head Sea Quech Ale to be a remarkably good example of the sour style, even though it's mislabeled as a session beer at 4.9% ABV.

4.9% is definitely top end, but I'd still consider that a session beer.  Is there an official scale for these things?

There isn't, but you'll never see anything over 5% ABV labeled as such. 

There was a time that they were sub 4.0%, but it's pretty hard to find anything in this country that low outside of Colorado and Utah gas station and supermarket 3.2%.

[Wheezer]

I find the Dogfish Head Sea Quech Ale to be a remarkably good example of the sour style, even though it's mislabeled as a session beer at 4.9% ABV.

4.9% is definitely top end, but I'd still consider that a session beer.  Is there an official scale for these things?

There isn't, but you'll never see anything over 5% ABV labeled as such. 

There was a time that they were sub 4.0%, but it's pretty hard to find anything in this country that low outside of Colorado and Utah gas station and supermarket 3.2%.

So-called 3.2 beers are ABW, not ABV. Honker's used to be 4.2 ABV, which is in the session category, although they've upped it to 4.3. Hell, PBR is 4.7 ABV, and I defy anyone to call it a session beer, modulo the meaning of "session."

[Tonker]

I find the Dogfish Head Sea Quech Ale to be a remarkably good example of the sour style, even though it's mislabeled as a session beer at 4.9% ABV.

4.9% is definitely top end, but I'd still consider that a session beer.  Is there an official scale for these things?

There isn't, but you'll never see anything over 5% ABV labeled as such. 

There was a time that they were sub 4.0%, but it's pretty hard to find anything in this country that low outside of Colorado and Utah gas station and supermarket 3.2%.

So-called 3.2 beers are ABW, not ABV. Honker's used to be 4.2 ABV, which is in the session category, although they've upped it to 4.3. Hell, PBR is 4.7 ABV, and I defy anyone to call it a session beer, modulo the meaning of "session."

Sleeman in Canada brews a strong version of PBR (5.9%), and you can even get it in 24 oz cans.  I brought four of those bad boys home with me, because I like bad beer in large quantities, it seems.

[Wheezer]

I find the Dogfish Head Sea Quech Ale to be a remarkably good example of the sour style, even though it's mislabeled as a session beer at 4.9% ABV.

4.9% is definitely top end, but I'd still consider that a session beer.  Is there an official scale for these things?

There isn't, but you'll never see anything over 5% ABV labeled as such. 

There was a time that they were sub 4.0%, but it's pretty hard to find anything in this country that low outside of Colorado and Utah gas station and supermarket 3.2%.

So-called 3.2 beers are ABW, not ABV. Honker's used to be 4.2 ABV, which is in the session category, although they've upped it to 4.3. Hell, PBR is 4.7 ABV, and I defy anyone to call it a session beer, modulo the meaning of "session."

Sleeman in Canada brews a strong version of PBR (5.9%), and you can even get it in 24 oz cans.  I brought four of those bad boys home with me, because I like bad beer in large quantities, it seems.

At least you didn't get Natty Ice. A friend of mine's brother and sister-in-law came to visit recently (until they checked into a hotel, as they were sharing a room with six foster kittens and their mother), and she somehow chose Hamm's. Turned out that the SIL knew the whole song.

[Wheezer]

For the people out there who prefer cider, Stella Artois just might be the very best.p

*blink*

Yeah.  I wrote a post some time ago pooh-poohing this but it got lost and I couldn't be arsed to go back and write it again.  I understand that this is entirely a matter of taste and as such, completely subjective... but anyone who thinks that Stella Artois cider is the very best really needs to try more ciders.  It's fine.  Good, even.  But the very best?  Nope.

I thought cider was for the gheys and such.

It was for a while until the Gluten-Frees got a hold of it and took it mainstream. 
Cider is acceptable again in many circles. 

Not mine, but others.

I love a good, dry cider every once in a while and I don't give a shit what you fuckers call me because of it.

Sweet ciders are for those who miss the halcyon days Bartles and James.

Well fuck you very much too.

A couple years back I was working on a cider project for New Belgium and did an informal focus group/taste testing of what's currently out there to look for white space.

Most of it was pretty terrible, but there were a couple sweets that were crowd pleasers. The dryer ones generally performed better.

The Seattle semi-sweet was much more dry than I expected. I'm not paying $12 for a four-pack, but I think that was the best of the bunch.

I am disappointed with the 2 Towns Brightcider. I should have known better, as they also have brain-dead flavored ciders. Virtue brand going forward.

[Wheezer]

Anyway, on the the PBR front, I was totally unaware of its near demise until just recently.

[PenFoe]

Anyway, on the the PBR front, I was totally unaware of its near demise until just recently.

It was about 2-3 solid weeks of potential demise before it was miraculously saved.
I'm not saying it was a PR stunt, but I'm a little cynical.

[Wheezer]

Now, the Penrose Session Sour, at 4% ABV, is accurately labeled. In its tiny 12 oz. cans.

[Wheezer]

The Finch Tacocat kettle sour, at 5% ABV, is worth every penny.