Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread

[InternetApex]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

[Tony]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

Major league coaches aren't the issue. The major league pitchers he would be facing are.

[Slaky]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

[Saul Goodman]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

[CBStew]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

I am not sure what constitutes "old school" in this debate.  I think that when a player masters a certain level he isn't going to improve by staying at that level.  You get better at chess when you play over your head, not under it.  But if his strikeout rate is not improving, then I guess he isn't ready to move.

[Yeti]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

I am not sure what constitutes "old school" in this debate.  I think that when a player masters a certain level he isn't going to improve by staying at that level.  You get better at chess when you play over your head, not under it.

I don't feel that Javy has mastered AAA yet. It's close, but not quite there. It's definitely not the panic of May

[Eli]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

I am not sure what constitutes "old school" in this debate.  I think that when a player masters a certain level he isn't going to improve by staying at that level.  You get better at chess when you play over your head, not under it.

I don't feel that Javy has mastered AAA yet. It's close, but not quite there. It's definitely not the panic of May

If he came up right now, it'd probably remind us all of early-season Olt. He'd hit a long home run often enough to keep people excited, but he'd strike out like 40% of the time. Since it's clear he's adjusting and trending in the right direction in AAA, it's probably best to let that continue for now.

[Powdered Toast Man]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

I am not sure what constitutes "old school" in this debate.  I think that when a player masters a certain level he isn't going to improve by staying at that level.  You get better at chess when you play over your head, not under it.

I don't feel that Javy has mastered AAA yet. It's close, but not quite there. It's definitely not the panic of May

I'm with Yeti here. I want to see more sustained progress. Is it meatball to say that four months of gradual, upward arrow pointing isn't quite enough? Especially when there isn't a pressing need at the MLB level other than cookies and ticket sales.

[Quality Start Machine]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

I am not sure what constitutes "old school" in this debate.  I think that when a player masters a certain level he isn't going to improve by staying at that level.  You get better at chess when you play over your head, not under it.

I don't feel that Javy has mastered AAA yet. It's close, but not quite there. It's definitely not the panic of May

If he came up right now, it'd probably remind us all of early-season Olt. He'd hit a long home run often enough to keep people excited, but he'd strike out like 40% of the time. Since it's clear he's adjusting and trending in the right direction in AAA, it's probably best to let that continue for now.

The Cubs are doing the right thing here, protecting their investment. There's no point in bringing him up until he's damn good and ready. Hell, even Bryant could stand to lower his K rate a little more. Baez himself probably recognizes the value in this. If he doesn't, he can look across the clubhouse to Jackson and Vitters.

[Yeti]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

I am not sure what constitutes "old school" in this debate.  I think that when a player masters a certain level he isn't going to improve by staying at that level.  You get better at chess when you play over your head, not under it.

I don't feel that Javy has mastered AAA yet. It's close, but not quite there. It's definitely not the panic of May

If he came up right now, it'd probably remind us all of early-season Olt. He'd hit a long home run often enough to keep people excited, but he'd strike out like 40% of the time. Since it's clear he's adjusting and trending in the right direction in AAA, it's probably best to let that continue for now.

The Cubs are doing the right thing here, protecting their investment. There's no point in bringing him up until he's damn good and ready. Hell, even Bryant could stand to lower his K rate a little more. Baez himself probably recognizes the value in this. If he doesn't, he can look across the clubhouse to Jackson and Vitters.

I don't think he sees the value in this, because he mentioned he should be up, and he was apparently a little ticked he didn't start the season on the Cubes. But, he'll get over it. He can have all that the thread title says for him.... in  2015

[InternetApex]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

I am not sure what constitutes "old school" in this debate.  I think that when a player masters a certain level he isn't going to improve by staying at that level.  You get better at chess when you play over your head, not under it.

I don't feel that Javy has mastered AAA yet. It's close, but not quite there. It's definitely not the panic of May

If he came up right now, it'd probably remind us all of early-season Olt. He'd hit a long home run often enough to keep people excited, but he'd strike out like 40% of the time. Since it's clear he's adjusting and trending in the right direction in AAA, it's probably best to let that continue for now.

The Cubs are doing the right thing here, protecting their investment. There's no point in bringing him up until he's damn good and ready. Hell, even Bryant could stand to lower his K rate a little more. Baez himself probably recognizes the value in this. If he doesn't, he can look across the clubhouse to Jackson and Vitters.

I don't think he sees the value in this, because he mentioned he should be up, and he was apparently a little ticked he didn't start the season on the Cubes. But, he'll get over it. He can have all that the thread title says for him.... in  2015

I think the last thing any of us want is a guy who says, "I'm really enjoying Iowa. It's quiet, no pressure, I mean belts are optional here. I'm not a belt kinda guy so Chicago can wait. What with their expectations and their dress codes and that. I'm good."

[Quality Start Machine]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

I am not sure what constitutes "old school" in this debate.  I think that when a player masters a certain level he isn't going to improve by staying at that level.  You get better at chess when you play over your head, not under it.

I don't feel that Javy has mastered AAA yet. It's close, but not quite there. It's definitely not the panic of May

If he came up right now, it'd probably remind us all of early-season Olt. He'd hit a long home run often enough to keep people excited, but he'd strike out like 40% of the time. Since it's clear he's adjusting and trending in the right direction in AAA, it's probably best to let that continue for now.

The Cubs are doing the right thing here, protecting their investment. There's no point in bringing him up until he's damn good and ready. Hell, even Bryant could stand to lower his K rate a little more. Baez himself probably recognizes the value in this. If he doesn't, he can look across the clubhouse to Jackson and Vitters.

I don't think he sees the value in this, because he mentioned he should be up, and he was apparently a little ticked he didn't start the season on the Cubes. But, he'll get over it. He can have all that the thread title says for him.... in  2015

Every ballplayer wants to be in the majors.  But he's currently playing the same position as an all-star at the major league level.

It'll be more than slightly fun watching him & Bryant duke it out for ROY next year though, once he starts figuring out second base in winter ball.

[InternetApex]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

I am not sure what constitutes "old school" in this debate.  I think that when a player masters a certain level he isn't going to improve by staying at that level.  You get better at chess when you play over your head, not under it.

I don't feel that Javy has mastered AAA yet. It's close, but not quite there. It's definitely not the panic of May

If he came up right now, it'd probably remind us all of early-season Olt. He'd hit a long home run often enough to keep people excited, but he'd strike out like 40% of the time. Since it's clear he's adjusting and trending in the right direction in AAA, it's probably best to let that continue for now.

The Cubs are doing the right thing here, protecting their investment. There's no point in bringing him up until he's damn good and ready. Hell, even Bryant could stand to lower his K rate a little more. Baez himself probably recognizes the value in this. If he doesn't, he can look across the clubhouse to Jackson and Vitters.

I don't think he sees the value in this, because he mentioned he should be up, and he was apparently a little ticked he didn't start the season on the Cubes. But, he'll get over it. He can have all that the thread title says for him.... in  2015

Every ballplayer wants to be in the majors.  But he's currently playing the same position as an all-star at the major league level.

It'll be more than slightly fun watching him & Bryant duke it out for ROY next year though, once he starts figuring out second base in winter ball.

Second base should take a player of his ability about 15 minutes to "figure out."

[SKO]

Javy Baez unloading on a Lucas Giolito curve in the Futures Game for an oppo 2-R HR.  Sploosh.

Baez says that he should be called up this season.  Why not?
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/chc/cubs-prospect-javier-baez-hits-two-run-homer-in-all-star-futures-game?ymd=20140713&content_id=84604296&vkey=news_chc

Because he's still got a ton to work on.

He might as well work on it with the major league coaches.  He sure isn't going to drop the Cubs any lower in the standings.

That's not ... it isn't... there's no... ...

Now I get it. Stew just wants to see this dude in a Cub uni. It's fair.

But yeah the clock and service time bullshit yadda yadda yadda it ain't happening.

What, Stew, watching those spring training homer videos isn't doing it for you anymore?

I am not sure what constitutes "old school" in this debate.  I think that when a player masters a certain level he isn't going to improve by staying at that level.  You get better at chess when you play over your head, not under it.

I don't feel that Javy has mastered AAA yet. It's close, but not quite there. It's definitely not the panic of May

If he came up right now, it'd probably remind us all of early-season Olt. He'd hit a long home run often enough to keep people excited, but he'd strike out like 40% of the time. Since it's clear he's adjusting and trending in the right direction in AAA, it's probably best to let that continue for now.

The Cubs are doing the right thing here, protecting their investment. There's no point in bringing him up until he's damn good and ready. Hell, even Bryant could stand to lower his K rate a little more. Baez himself probably recognizes the value in this. If he doesn't, he can look across the clubhouse to Jackson and Vitters.

I don't think he sees the value in this, because he mentioned he should be up, and he was apparently a little ticked he didn't start the season on the Cubes. But, he'll get over it. He can have all that the thread title says for him.... in  2015

Every ballplayer wants to be in the majors.  But he's currently playing the same position as an all-star at the major league level.

It'll be more than slightly fun watching him & Bryant duke it out for ROY next year though, once he starts figuring out second base in winter ball.

Second base should take a player of his ability about 15 minutes to "figure out."

It sounds to me like in the probably slightly unlikely scenario that Baez, Bryant, Russell, Castro, and Al-Contra are all staying, and Bryant stays at third (which he has been pretty adamant about), that Baez would likely become a corner OF given his strong arm, with Al-Contra staying in CF, Bryant at 3B, and Russell/Castro being your middle infield.

[Eli]

I think the last thing any of us want is a guy who says, "I'm really enjoying Iowa. It's quiet, no pressure, I mean belts are optional here. I'm not a belt kinda guy so Chicago can wait. What with their expectations and their dress codes and that. I'm good."

Yeah, he's had the MLB logo tattooed on his neck since high school. I don't think he's content just hanging out at AAA.