Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread

[CT III]

This is really entertaining. But wrong thread.

Oh right. This is the Javy Baez thread. I'd say he could be a HOF 2B in the mold of Robbie Alomar but Pen doesn't want him spitting on umpires.

I'll take Alomar.

We can agree on this.

I actually think your Soriano comp isn't terrible here. 

In that case I look forward to the Cubs trading him for a generational talent who keeps portraits of himself as a centaur in his home.

[Quality Start Machine]

Part of the adjustment will also be as the talent at the big-league level improves, Baez will get more ABs with runners on base - particularly 1st. This will mean more fastballs in/near the strike zone (to prevent stealing) and more balls being sent to far-away places.

I don't have the time to look it up, but this just seems like something that isn't really statistically true.

His splits (38 PAs with bases empty vs. 24 PAs with men on - small sample size, I know.) show better numbers (a 63 point spread in OPS) with men on.

I'm more curious how we know he'll be getting more ABs with guys on base.

The Cubs have better hitters coming. It's been in all the papers.

[Eli]

Thought about this last night and I wonder if Pen is thinking when we say "comp," we mean "ceiling." Probably just a case of semantics, but I certainly don't think Bryant's ceiling is Troy Glaus. Maybe we need to do something more like this for projections:

Floor: Mark Reynolds
Middle: Troy Glaus
Ceiling: More Handsome Babe Ruth

[SKO]

Thought about this last night and I wonder if Pen is thinking when we say "comp," we mean "ceiling." Probably just a case of semantics, but I certainly don't think Bryant's ceiling is Troy Glaus. Maybe we need to do something more like this for projections:

Floor: Mark Reynolds
Middle: Troy Glaus
Ceiling: More Handsome Babe Ruth

Or he's Troy Glaus, but only if every Troy Glaus season was his 2000 season.

.284/.404/.604/1.008, 47 HRs, OPS+ of 150, 7.8 WAR. WOULD THAT SATISFY YOU, PEN?! ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

[PenFoe]

Thought about this last night and I wonder if Pen is thinking when we say "comp," we mean "ceiling." Probably just a case of semantics, but I certainly don't think Bryant's ceiling is Troy Glaus. Maybe we need to do something more like this for projections:

Floor: Mark Reynolds
Middle: Troy Glaus
Ceiling: More Handsome Babe Ruth

Or he's Troy Glaus, but only if every Troy Glaus season was his 2000 season.

.284/.404/.604/1.008, 47 HRs, OPS+ of 150, 7.8 WAR. WOULD THAT SATISFY YOU, PEN?! ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

We can agree on this.

Glad you came around after declaring Bryant's career an injury-riddled disappointment.

[J. Walter Weatherman]

So, true story - I was doing some research to make a big deal about how I wouldn't be satisfied with Troy Glaus because Bryant's power history to date (college and minors) was really unrivaled and I wanted to set the bar higher.

AND WOULDN'T YOU FUCKING KNOW IT...

Most Homers in a season, College, Third Basemen
1. TROY FUCKING GLAUS - 34 (UCLA, 1997)
2. Kris Bryant - 31 (SDSU, 2013)

So I stopped there and now I hate everything.

If it eases your mind at all, remind yourself that Bryant's 31 came in college ball's brave new BBCOR era...

[Slaky]

So, true story - I was doing some research to make a big deal about how I wouldn't be satisfied with Troy Glaus because Bryant's power history to date (college and minors) was really unrivaled and I wanted to set the bar higher.

AND WOULDN'T YOU FUCKING KNOW IT...

Most Homers in a season, College, Third Basemen
1. TROY FUCKING GLAUS - 34 (UCLA, 1997)
2. Kris Bryant - 31 (SDSU, 2013)

So I stopped there and now I hate everything.

If it eases your mind at all, remind yourself that Bryant's 31 came in college ball's brave new BBCOR era...

A major victory for the Kris Bryant Sure Fire Hall Of Famer crowd.

He hit 31 homers using a pool noodle.

[PenFoe]

So, true story - I was doing some research to make a big deal about how I wouldn't be satisfied with Troy Glaus because Bryant's power history to date (college and minors) was really unrivaled and I wanted to set the bar higher.

AND WOULDN'T YOU FUCKING KNOW IT...

Most Homers in a season, College, Third Basemen
1. TROY FUCKING GLAUS - 34 (UCLA, 1997)
2. Kris Bryant - 31 (SDSU, 2013)

So I stopped there and now I hate everything.

If it eases your mind at all, remind yourself that Bryant's 31 came in college ball's brave new BBCOR era...

A major victory for the Kris Bryant Sure Fire Hall Of Famer crowd.

He hit 31 homers using a pool noodle.

*fist pump*

[ChuckD]

Glaus hit 34 in 1997 when the HR/G rate was ~.96.

Bryant hit 31 in 2013 when the HR/G rate was ~.42.

Either Bryant would've hit 71 dongs in 1997, Glaus would've hit 15 dongs in 2013, or math is a lie.

MORE HANDSOME BABE RUTH

[CT III]

Glaus hit 34 in 1997 when the HR/G rate was ~.96.

Bryant hit 31 in 2013 when the HR/G rate was ~.42.

Either Bryant would've hit 71 dongs in 1997, Glaus would've hit 15 dongs in 2013, or math is a lie.

MORE HANDSOME BABE RUTH

I'm gonna go with that third thing and just throw "math" in the bin with "science".

[Saul Goodman]

Glaus hit 34 in 1997 when the HR/G rate was ~.96.

Bryant hit 31 in 2013 when the HR/G rate was ~.42.

Either Bryant would've hit 71 dongs in 1997, Glaus would've hit 15 dongs in 2013, or math is a lie.

MORE HANDSOME BABE RUTH

I'm gonna go with that third thing and just throw "math" in the bin with "science".

I concur:

[Slaky]

We can close this thread. This Baez kid STINKS!

[Saul Goodman]

We can close this thread. This Baez kid STINKS!

I don't listen to Matt Spiegel but I do listen to transition via podcast and apparently Spiegel has decided that it's time to trade Baez because he doesn't like what he's seen. I hate Cubs fans. Trade Castro, trade Baez, ..?.. profit.

[InternetApex]

We can close this thread. This Baez kid STINKS!

I don't listen to Matt Spiegel but I do listen to transition via podcast and apparently Spiegel has decided that it's time to trade Baez because he doesn't like what he's seen. I hate Cubs fans. Trade Castro, trade Baez, ..?.. profit.

I listened to him explain himself yesterday. What I heard him say was that if you hypothetically were going to trade an asset THIS offseason, you would deal Baez because his value is high and he's replaceable with Castro and Russell around. That's what prompted his callers to counter with TRADE CASTRO ZOMG!!!111!!!

Spiegel is a dork and I don't like his show. Pat Mannelly is milquetoast at best and if his sage football wisdom consists of the meatball shit we heard him say about Briggs yesterday, they might as well not bother. I would have rather seen Jason Goff get that gig. They could have paired him with Holmes and relegated Spiegs to the 6 p.m.-whenever the fuck slot. Spiegel got that job because Danny Mac insisted on him. Now Mac is gone and they're keeping Spiegs. No idea what that's about. White people, I guess. 

[Slaky]

We can close this thread. This Baez kid STINKS!

I don't listen to Matt Spiegel but I do listen to transition via podcast and apparently Spiegel has decided that it's time to trade Baez because he doesn't like what he's seen. I hate Cubs fans. Trade Castro, trade Baez, ..?.. profit.

I listened to him explain himself yesterday. What I heard him say was that if you hypothetically were going to trade an asset THIS offseason, you would deal Baez because his value is high and he's replaceable with Castro and Russell around. That's what prompted his callers to counter with TRADE CASTRO ZOMG!!!111!!!

Spiegel is a dork and I don't like his show. Pat Mannelly is milquetoast at best and if his sage football wisdom consists of the meatball shit we heard him say about Briggs yesterday, they might as well not bother. I would have rather seen Jason Goff get that gig. They could have paired him with Holmes and relegated Spiegs to the 6 p.m.-whenever the fuck slot. Spiegel got that job because Danny Mac insisted on him. Now Mac is gone and they're keeping Spiegs. No idea what that's about. White people, I guess. 

GOTTA TRADE SOMEONE!

*picks hanging turd out of own ass sniffs it and eats it*