Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread

[Eli]

We can close this thread. This Baez kid STINKS!

I don't listen to Matt Spiegel but I do listen to transition via podcast and apparently Spiegel has decided that it's time to trade Baez because he doesn't like what he's seen. I hate Cubs fans. Trade Castro, trade Baez, ..?.. profit.

I listened to him explain himself yesterday. What I heard him say was that if you hypothetically were going to trade an asset THIS offseason, you would deal Baez because his value is high and he's replaceable with Castro and Russell around. That's what prompted his callers to counter with TRADE CASTRO ZOMG!!!111!!!

Spiegel is a dork and I don't like his show. Pat Mannelly is milquetoast at best and if his sage football wisdom consists of the meatball shit we heard him say about Briggs yesterday, they might as well not bother. I would have rather seen Jason Goff get that gig. They could have paired him with Holmes and relegated Spiegs to the 6 p.m.-whenever the fuck slot. Spiegel got that job because Danny Mac insisted on him. Now Mac is gone and they're keeping Spiegs. No idea what that's about. White people, I guess. 

GOTTA TRADE SOMEONE!

*picks hanging turd out of own ass sniffs it and eats it*

I'm just confused how Gordo can declare the Cubs' rebuild a failure but also say they are so overstuffed with good players that they need to trade some of them.

[InternetApex]

We can close this thread. This Baez kid STINKS!

I don't listen to Matt Spiegel but I do listen to transition via podcast and apparently Spiegel has decided that it's time to trade Baez because he doesn't like what he's seen. I hate Cubs fans. Trade Castro, trade Baez, ..?.. profit.

I listened to him explain himself yesterday. What I heard him say was that if you hypothetically were going to trade an asset THIS offseason, you would deal Baez because his value is high and he's replaceable with Castro and Russell around. That's what prompted his callers to counter with TRADE CASTRO ZOMG!!!111!!!

Spiegel is a dork and I don't like his show. Pat Mannelly is milquetoast at best and if his sage football wisdom consists of the meatball shit we heard him say about Briggs yesterday, they might as well not bother. I would have rather seen Jason Goff get that gig. They could have paired him with Holmes and relegated Spiegs to the 6 p.m.-whenever the fuck slot. Spiegel got that job because Danny Mac insisted on him. Now Mac is gone and they're keeping Spiegs. No idea what that's about. White people, I guess. 

GOTTA TRADE SOMEONE!

*picks hanging turd out of own ass sniffs it and eats it*

I'm just confused how Gordo can declare the Cubs' rebuild a failure but also say they are so overstuffed with good players that they need to trade some of them.

It's a failure until they fix it and start winning. You of all people should understand that concept.

[Slaky]

We can close this thread. This Baez kid STINKS!

I don't listen to Matt Spiegel but I do listen to transition via podcast and apparently Spiegel has decided that it's time to trade Baez because he doesn't like what he's seen. I hate Cubs fans. Trade Castro, trade Baez, ..?.. profit.

I listened to him explain himself yesterday. What I heard him say was that if you hypothetically were going to trade an asset THIS offseason, you would deal Baez because his value is high and he's replaceable with Castro and Russell around. That's what prompted his callers to counter with TRADE CASTRO ZOMG!!!111!!!

Spiegel is a dork and I don't like his show. Pat Mannelly is milquetoast at best and if his sage football wisdom consists of the meatball shit we heard him say about Briggs yesterday, they might as well not bother. I would have rather seen Jason Goff get that gig. They could have paired him with Holmes and relegated Spiegs to the 6 p.m.-whenever the fuck slot. Spiegel got that job because Danny Mac insisted on him. Now Mac is gone and they're keeping Spiegs. No idea what that's about. White people, I guess. 

GOTTA TRADE SOMEONE!

*picks hanging turd out of own ass sniffs it and eats it*

I'm just confused how Gordo can declare the Cubs' rebuild a failure but also say they are so overstuffed with good players that they need to trade some of them.

It's a failure until they fix it and start winning. You of all people should understand that concept.

A good thing i read from Sahadev says essentially it's going to be "who's getting traded?" stories until all of these guys are on the field together in Cub uniforms. Until that day, should it ever occur, the media will run wild with trade speculation. And they'll be wrong the whole time.

[Eli]

A good thing i read from Sahadev says essentially it's going to be "who's getting traded?" stories until all of these guys are on the field together in Cub uniforms. Until that day, should it ever occur, the media will run wild with trade speculation. And they'll be wrong the whole time.

I think his point about "how it's written" is key. There's nothing wrong with trade speculation, especially for a team like the Cubs. And it's not impossible that key guys could be traded this offseason. But Gordon is just stirring crap up and it's annoying.

[Chuck to Chuck]

We can close this thread. This Baez kid STINKS!

I don't listen to Matt Spiegel but I do listen to transition via podcast and apparently Spiegel has decided that it's time to trade Baez because he doesn't like what he's seen. I hate Cubs fans. Trade Castro, trade Baez, ..?.. profit.

I listened to him explain himself yesterday. What I heard him say was that if you hypothetically were going to trade an asset THIS offseason, you would deal Baez because his value is high and he's replaceable with Castro and Russell around. That's what prompted his callers to counter with TRADE CASTRO ZOMG!!!111!!!

Spiegel is a dork and I don't like his show. Pat Mannelly is milquetoast at best and if his sage football wisdom consists of the meatball shit we heard him say about Briggs yesterday, they might as well not bother. I would have rather seen Jason Goff get that gig. They could have paired him with Holmes and relegated Spiegs to the 6 p.m.-whenever the fuck slot. Spiegel got that job because Danny Mac insisted on him. Now Mac is gone and they're keeping Spiegs. No idea what that's about. White people, I guess. 

GOTTA TRADE SOMEONE!

*picks hanging turd out of own ass sniffs it and eats it*

I'm just confused how Gordo can declare the Cubs' rebuild a failure but also say they are so overstuffed with good players that they need to trade some of them.

It's a failure until they fix it and start winning. You of all people should understand that concept.

A good thing i read from Sahadev says essentially it's going to be "who's getting traded?" stories until all of these guys are on the field together in Cub uniforms. Until that day, should it ever occur, the media will run wild with trade speculation. And they'll be wrong the whole time.

Perhaps. But it sure seems likely someone is going.  There's only 8 spots on the field. I'm going to say that RF and 1B are locked up pretty good right now.

So, in the other 6 slots you have these guys:

Castro
Baez
Alcantara
Almora
Bryant
Schwarber
Russell

That's 7 guys for 6 slots. And, if Schwarber doesn't stick at catcher, it's 7 guys for 5 slots.  Now, I don't think that it's very likely that all of them will pan out, so that could make some decisions easier.  But I also think Theo will trade someone from that list either before it's obvious the guy won't pan out or to generate value in the form of pitching. And Theo has a history of making big trades.

Yes, the stories are going to be repetitive and boring. But I don't think they'll be wrong the whole time.

[Chuck to Chuck]

A good thing i read from Sahadev says essentially it's going to be "who's getting traded?" stories until all of these guys are on the field together in Cub uniforms. Until that day, should it ever occur, the media will run wild with trade speculation. And they'll be wrong the whole time.

I think his point about "how it's written" is key. There's nothing wrong with trade speculation, especially for a team like the Cubs. And it's not impossible that key guys could be traded this offseason. But Gordon is just stirring crap up and it's annoying.

THIS

[Quality Start Machine]

Fuck Gordo, back to Baez.

Since taking the golden sombrero in Cincinatti 8/26, he's struck out 11 times in 39 PAs, and he's also walked in each of the last two games.

I know it's not much, but hopefully this means he's going to start forcing pitchers to get inside the strike zone on him.

[Eli]

A good thing i read from Sahadev says essentially it's going to be "who's getting traded?" stories until all of these guys are on the field together in Cub uniforms. Until that day, should it ever occur, the media will run wild with trade speculation. And they'll be wrong the whole time.

I think his point about "how it's written" is key. There's nothing wrong with trade speculation, especially for a team like the Cubs. And it's not impossible that key guys could be traded this offseason. But Gordon is just stirring crap up and it's annoying.

THIS

Plus, as a fan, trade speculation should be fun to read and discuss. But we're not trolling for clicks/reactions like Gordo.

[InternetApex]

A good thing i read from Sahadev says essentially it's going to be "who's getting traded?" stories until all of these guys are on the field together in Cub uniforms. Until that day, should it ever occur, the media will run wild with trade speculation. And they'll be wrong the whole time.

I think his point about "how it's written" is key. There's nothing wrong with trade speculation, especially for a team like the Cubs. And it's not impossible that key guys could be traded this offseason. But Gordon is just stirring crap up and it's annoying.

THIS

Plus, as a fan, trade speculation should be fun to read and discuss. But we're not trolling for clicks/reactions like Gordo.

He did a "Bryant Should Be Here" piece the other day filled with quotes from Scott Boras. Least surprising something something.

[Slaky]

Fuck Gordo, back to Baez.

Since taking the golden sombrero in Cincinatti 8/26, he's struck out 11 times in 39 PAs, and he's also walked in each of the last two games.

I know it's not much, but hopefully this means he's going to start forcing pitchers to get inside the strike zone on him.

They said if he qualified, he'd be 7th in the majors in pitches seen per plate appearance. He'll find it.

[Tonker]

Baez made a couple of really nice plays yesterday, but this was the pick of the bunch.

Intrepid Reader: Chuck

Trade Castro!!!1!

[InternetApex]

Fuck Gordo, back to Baez.

Since taking the golden sombrero in Cincinatti 8/26, he's struck out 11 times in 39 PAs, and he's also walked in each of the last two games.

I know it's not much, but hopefully this means he's going to start forcing pitchers to get inside the strike zone on him.

They said if he qualified, he'd be 7th in the majors in pitches seen per plate appearance. He'll find it.

I mean, that'll happen when you swing and miss as much as he does. But I agree, he'll find it.

[Slaky]

Fuck Gordo, back to Baez.

Since taking the golden sombrero in Cincinatti 8/26, he's struck out 11 times in 39 PAs, and he's also walked in each of the last two games.

I know it's not much, but hopefully this means he's going to start forcing pitchers to get inside the strike zone on him.

They said if he qualified, he'd be 7th in the majors in pitches seen per plate appearance. He'll find it.

I mean, that'll happen when you swing and miss as much as he does. But I agree, he'll find it.

that's a good point. I guess the next step would be how many balls vs strikes seen per at bat? How many fouls? I don't know. Seeing pitches is good no matter what since it tires the pitcher out just the same.

[CT III]

Fuck Gordo, back to Baez.

Since taking the golden sombrero in Cincinatti 8/26, he's struck out 11 times in 39 PAs, and he's also walked in each of the last two games.

I know it's not much, but hopefully this means he's going to start forcing pitchers to get inside the strike zone on him.

They said if he qualified, he'd be 7th in the majors in pitches seen per plate appearance. He'll find it.

I mean, that'll happen when you swing and miss as much as he does. But I agree, he'll find it.

that's a good point. I guess the next step would be how many balls vs strikes seen per at bat? How many fouls? I don't know. Seeing pitches is good no matter what since it tires the pitcher out just the same.

I'm flashing back to Apex's hatred of Matt Murton, along with my favorite line of his, something to the effect that Murton's greatest strength as a hitter was not swinging the bat.

[InternetApex]

Fuck Gordo, back to Baez.

Since taking the golden sombrero in Cincinatti 8/26, he's struck out 11 times in 39 PAs, and he's also walked in each of the last two games.

I know it's not much, but hopefully this means he's going to start forcing pitchers to get inside the strike zone on him.

They said if he qualified, he'd be 7th in the majors in pitches seen per plate appearance. He'll find it.

I mean, that'll happen when you swing and miss as much as he does. But I agree, he'll find it.

that's a good point. I guess the next step would be how many balls vs strikes seen per at bat? How many fouls? I don't know. Seeing pitches is good no matter what since it tires the pitcher out just the same.

I'm flashing back to Apex's hatred of Matt Murton here, along with my favorite line of his, something to the effect that Murton's greatest strength as a hitter was not swinging the bat.

That's also a good point.