Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread

[Saul Goodman]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-javier-baez-hurt-20150607-story.html

DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!!

It really does suck...for him and for the Cubs. He was making some good adjustments at Iowa.

He touched a lot of people.

[Saul Goodman]

DPD. Javy has started his rehab assignment with Mesa.

[Quality Start Machine]

DPD. Javy has started his rehab assignment with Mesa.

Do the Cubs have a timetable set for him?

[Powdered Toast Man]

DPD. Javy has started his rehab assignment with Mesa.

Do the Cubs have a timetable set for him?

Nope, they're probably just gonna wing it.

[Quality Start Machine]

DPD. Javy has started his rehab assignment with Mesa.

Do the Cubs have a timetable set for him?

Nope, they're probably just gonna wing it.

Yeah, I walked into that...have they mentioned publicly how long until he's back in Iowa?

[Powdered Toast Man]

DPD. Javy has started his rehab assignment with Mesa.

Do the Cubs have a timetable set for him?

Nope, they're probably just gonna wing it.

Yeah, I walked into that...have they mentioned publicly how long until he's back in Iowa?

The scuttlebutt I've read so far is that he could have had his last game in Arizona this weekend and could meet up with Iowa either today or later in the week. So perhaps it's looking good for his recovery.

I'd be pumped if he comes back to Iowa and keeps up with his new approach and forces his way to Chicago. For the record, Javy is 5-12 with 0 K and 1 BB and 1 2B in his rehab assignment with the AZL Cubs.

[Quality Start Machine]

First game back in Iowa, 2 dongs.

[Yeti]

First game back in Iowa, 2 dongs.

I'm ready for him at second and Russell at SS. Bye, Starlin. It's been real. Get your 2500+ hits and love life

[SKO]

First game back in Iowa, 2 dongs.

I'm ready for him at second and Russell at SS. Bye, Starlin. It's been real. Get your 2500+ hits and love life

Would like to reiterate that while I am fine with Russell moving to SS, I am also equally fine with him just being the most dominant defensive second baseman in the majors already and would be cool with them trying to make Javy stick at SS.

I mean Russell's so good he'd probably be a fine defensive SS, but if he's already the best defensive 2B as a rookie is that worth messing with? I feel like sometimes SS is a bit overrated vs second base in terms of that being where your best defender has to play. Maybe ChuckD can show some numbers as to how many runs the best 2B saves each year vs the best SS or whatever.

[Quality Start Machine]

Would like to reiterate that while I am fine with Russell moving to SS, I am also equally fine with him just being the most dominant defensive second baseman in the majors already and would be cool with them trying to make Javy stick at SS.

I mean Russell's so good he'd probably be a fine defensive SS, but if he's already the best defensive 2B as a rookie is that worth messing with? I feel like sometimes SS is a bit overrated vs second base in terms of that being where your best defender has to play. Maybe ChuckD can show some numbers as to how many runs the best 2B saves each year vs the best SS or whatever.

This. I keep hearing Russell being compared to Barry Larkin, which is fine. But I haven't seen a second baseman like this since Ryno. He's fucking amazing.

[Chuck to Chuck]

First game back in Iowa, 2 dongs.

I'm ready for him at second and Russell at SS. Bye, Starlin. It's been real. Get your 2500+ hits and love life

He never gets close to 2500. Here's his hit totals by year:

139
207
183
163
154
91

Total of 937.  If he's the part time player I expect him to be the rest of his career, he caps out at what, 1500? On the high end?

[SKO]

Would like to reiterate that while I am fine with Russell moving to SS, I am also equally fine with him just being the most dominant defensive second baseman in the majors already and would be cool with them trying to make Javy stick at SS.

I mean Russell's so good he'd probably be a fine defensive SS, but if he's already the best defensive 2B as a rookie is that worth messing with? I feel like sometimes SS is a bit overrated vs second base in terms of that being where your best defender has to play. Maybe ChuckD can show some numbers as to how many runs the best 2B saves each year vs the best SS or whatever.

This. I keep hearing Russell being compared to Barry Larkin, which is fine. But I haven't seen a second baseman like this since Ryno. He's fucking amazing.

Well I mean if shortstops really can be worth that much more than second basemen, I get making the switch if you think Addison can be that good over there, but I kinda feel part of that is just the perception of the position. It's like right vs left tackle in the NFL. Every study ever done shows that there's really no real difference between the two and that both need to be good at pass blocking, but teams still pay way more for "left tackles". I'm wondering if SS vs second base is that much of a gap that it's worth messing with what Addison's got going on over there.

[InternetApex]

Would like to reiterate that while I am fine with Russell moving to SS, I am also equally fine with him just being the most dominant defensive second baseman in the majors already and would be cool with them trying to make Javy stick at SS.

I mean Russell's so good he'd probably be a fine defensive SS, but if he's already the best defensive 2B as a rookie is that worth messing with? I feel like sometimes SS is a bit overrated vs second base in terms of that being where your best defender has to play. Maybe ChuckD can show some numbers as to how many runs the best 2B saves each year vs the best SS or whatever.

This. I keep hearing Russell being compared to Barry Larkin, which is fine. But I haven't seen a second baseman like this since Ryno. He's fucking amazing.

Well I mean if shortstops really can be worth that much more than second basemen, I get making the switch if you think Addison can be that good over there, but I kinda feel part of that is just the perception of the position. It's like right vs left tackle in the NFL. Every study ever done shows that there's really no real difference between the two and that both need to be good at pass blocking, but teams still pay way more for "left tackles". I'm wondering if SS vs second base is that much of a gap that it's worth messing with what Addison's got going on over there.

Fucking stop it. Shortstop is a lot more demanding and if the kid has the gun to play the position, you move him. Best 2nd Baseman since Ryno... What in the entire fuck.

If you're confused by this concept, head out to your local dirt lot and have a friend pound grounders to you at both spots and see if even your own beltless ass doesn't get the picture.

[SKO]

Would like to reiterate that while I am fine with Russell moving to SS, I am also equally fine with him just being the most dominant defensive second baseman in the majors already and would be cool with them trying to make Javy stick at SS.

I mean Russell's so good he'd probably be a fine defensive SS, but if he's already the best defensive 2B as a rookie is that worth messing with? I feel like sometimes SS is a bit overrated vs second base in terms of that being where your best defender has to play. Maybe ChuckD can show some numbers as to how many runs the best 2B saves each year vs the best SS or whatever.

This. I keep hearing Russell being compared to Barry Larkin, which is fine. But I haven't seen a second baseman like this since Ryno. He's fucking amazing.

Well I mean if shortstops really can be worth that much more than second basemen, I get making the switch if you think Addison can be that good over there, but I kinda feel part of that is just the perception of the position. It's like right vs left tackle in the NFL. Every study ever done shows that there's really no real difference between the two and that both need to be good at pass blocking, but teams still pay way more for "left tackles". I'm wondering if SS vs second base is that much of a gap that it's worth messing with what Addison's got going on over there.

Fucking stop it. Shortstop is a lot more demanding and if the kid has the gun to play the position, you move him. Best 2nd Baseman since Ryno... What in the entire fuck.

If you're confused by this concept, head out to your local dirt lot and have a friend pound grounders to you at both spots and see if even your own beltless ass doesn't get the picture.

Well my point is "see if Baez can play SS." I mean from what I saw of him last year and his raw talent Javy doesn't seem to be a slouch there, either. Addison is kicking ass at 2B. If Javy can stick at SS, let Addison stay where he is. If Javy can't be a good SS, then switch 'em. Just give Javy a shot first.

[Tony]

Would like to reiterate that while I am fine with Russell moving to SS, I am also equally fine with him just being the most dominant defensive second baseman in the majors already and would be cool with them trying to make Javy stick at SS.

I mean Russell's so good he'd probably be a fine defensive SS, but if he's already the best defensive 2B as a rookie is that worth messing with? I feel like sometimes SS is a bit overrated vs second base in terms of that being where your best defender has to play. Maybe ChuckD can show some numbers as to how many runs the best 2B saves each year vs the best SS or whatever.

This. I keep hearing Russell being compared to Barry Larkin, which is fine. But I haven't seen a second baseman like this since Ryno. He's fucking amazing.

Well I mean if shortstops really can be worth that much more than second basemen, I get making the switch if you think Addison can be that good over there, but I kinda feel part of that is just the perception of the position. It's like right vs left tackle in the NFL. Every study ever done shows that there's really no real difference between the two and that both need to be good at pass blocking, but teams still pay way more for "left tackles". I'm wondering if SS vs second base is that much of a gap that it's worth messing with what Addison's got going on over there.

Fucking stop it. Shortstop is a lot more demanding and if the kid has the gun to play the position, you move him. Best 2nd Baseman since Ryno... What in the entire fuck.

If you're confused by this concept, head out to your local dirt lot and have a friend pound grounders to you at both spots and see if even your own beltless ass doesn't get the picture.

Well my point is "see if Baez can play SS." I mean from what I saw of him last year and his raw talent Javy doesn't seem to be a slouch there, either. Addison is kicking ass at 2B. If Javy can stick at SS, let Addison stay where he is. If Javy can't be a good SS, then switch 'em. Just give Javy a shot first.

They're both shortstops that have mostly played 2B in the majors. Javy was good at 2B, and Addison has been awesome at 2B. Therefore Addison is the better defender, so he should play SS.