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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #195 on: June 13, 2014, 12:34:51 PM »
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If we're only projecting Bryant to hit in the .250s in the pros, I'd prefer we comp him to Mike Schmidt than Troy fucking Glaus.

Are the only options to comp Bryant to upper-tier Hall of Famers? It wasn't a knock. Glaus was really good; he just had trouble staying healthy.

And I think given his strikeout numbers, Bryant will probably be closer to a .250 hitter than than .300 hitter Chipper was. Again, not a knock, since he projects to walk a lot and (obviously) produce tons of power.

Christ is Baez even going to crack the Mendoza line, then?

Sure. He projects to be in that same range. Again, we're talking about batting average here, which isn't all that important on its own.

Yeah but if..like, a guy who is hitting .351 in the minors projects as a .250 big league hitter...that still kinda bums me out.
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #196 on: June 13, 2014, 12:40:48 PM »
Quote from: SKO on June 13, 2014, 12:34:51 PM
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If we're only projecting Bryant to hit in the .250s in the pros, I'd prefer we comp him to Mike Schmidt than Troy fucking Glaus.

Are the only options to comp Bryant to upper-tier Hall of Famers? It wasn't a knock. Glaus was really good; he just had trouble staying healthy.

And I think given his strikeout numbers, Bryant will probably be closer to a .250 hitter than than .300 hitter Chipper was. Again, not a knock, since he projects to walk a lot and (obviously) produce tons of power.

Christ is Baez even going to crack the Mendoza line, then?

Sure. He projects to be in that same range. Again, we're talking about batting average here, which isn't all that important on its own.

Yeah but if..like, a guy who is hitting .351 in the minors projects as a .250 big league hitter...that still kinda bums me out.

I said "closer to" .250 than .300. So, say .274 if it makes you feel better. The list of guys who regularly hit .300, don't strike out often and still put up big slugging numbers is ... very small. In fact, from the last 15 years, this is it.

Of course, you can play around with the filters a bit. But the original point, I think, is that Chipper Jones was really, really good?


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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #197 on: June 13, 2014, 12:45:07 PM »
Also, just for fun (for me), using those same filters, I tried to find someone who had a K rate above 20%, slugged over .500 and still hit .300. Since 1900, there's exactly one guy who's done that. Amazing.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #198 on: June 13, 2014, 12:49:27 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
Also, just for fun (for me), using those same filters, I tried to find someone who had a K rate above 20%, slugged over .500 and still hit .300. Since 1900, there's exactly one guy who's done that. Amazing.

So both Schwarber AND Bryant are Trout?

Everthing's coming up not-Eli!
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #199 on: June 13, 2014, 12:52:32 PM »
Quote from: Brownie on June 13, 2014, 10:41:29 AM

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...to bat ninth, strike out four times, and blast a 430 foot homer.

Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
Also, just for fun (for me), using those same filters, I tried to find someone who had a K rate above 20%, slugged over .500 and still hit .300. Since 1900, there's exactly one guy who's done that. Amazing.

This is absolutely staggering:

QuoteBABIP: .364

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #200 on: June 13, 2014, 12:56:34 PM »
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 12:23:31 PM
I thought Bryant was the next Braun. Isn't that the comp that was settled on?

Yup. Eli promised us.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #201 on: June 13, 2014, 01:08:45 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on June 13, 2014, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
Also, just for fun (for me), using those same filters, I tried to find someone who had a K rate above 20%, slugged over .500 and still hit .300. Since 1900, there's exactly one guy who's done that. Amazing.

So both Schwarber AND Bryant are Trout?

Everthing's coming up not-Eli!

That doesn't make any sense. Why would that be not-Eli? Your meme is falling apart, man.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #202 on: June 13, 2014, 01:11:38 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 01:08:45 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 13, 2014, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
Also, just for fun (for me), using those same filters, I tried to find someone who had a K rate above 20%, slugged over .500 and still hit .300. Since 1900, there's exactly one guy who's done that. Amazing.

So both Schwarber AND Bryant are Trout?

Everthing's coming up not-Eli!

That doesn't make any sense. Why would that be not-Eli? Your meme is falling apart, man.

Pen being terrible at memes is actually its own meme.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #203 on: June 13, 2014, 01:28:24 PM »
I'm with SKO in that it's still kind of sad knowing that Bryant's perceived ceiling might be a power hitter who hits in the mid 200s. Like, he's obviously tearing up AA but knowing that there's nothing that can guarantee he's going to be able to put up Triple Crown like numbers stinks.

Even if it's more realistic to assume he's going to be very good instead of transcendent I'm still hoping for transcendent.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #204 on: June 13, 2014, 02:14:48 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on June 13, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
I'm with SKO in that it's still kind of sad knowing that Bryant's perceived ceiling might be a power hitter who hits in the mid 200s. Like, he's obviously tearing up AA but knowing that there's nothing that can guarantee he's going to be able to put up Triple Crown like numbers stinks.

Even if it's more realistic to assume he's going to be very good instead of transcendent I'm still hoping for transcendent.

Still plenty of great players (many arguably transcendent) on this list of high-K, high-SLG, decent-OBP players. Especially factoring that offense is pretty suppressed now, a theoretical .260/.340/.500 guy is incredibly valuable. I think that's realistic for Bryant with a good chance for even better.

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #205 on: June 13, 2014, 02:17:52 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 13, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
I'm with SKO in that it's still kind of sad knowing that Bryant's perceived ceiling might be a power hitter who hits in the mid 200s. Like, he's obviously tearing up AA but knowing that there's nothing that can guarantee he's going to be able to put up Triple Crown like numbers stinks.

Even if it's more realistic to assume he's going to be very good instead of transcendent I'm still hoping for transcendent.

Still plenty of great players (many arguably transcendent) on this list of high-K, high-SLG, decent-OBP players. Especially factoring that offense is pretty suppressed now, a theoretical .260/.340/.500 guy is incredibly valuable. I think that's realistic for Bryant with a good chance for even better.

I can't even hope for a .900 OPS out of Bryant? GODDAMMIT, ELI
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #206 on: June 13, 2014, 02:24:30 PM »
Quote from: SKO on June 13, 2014, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 13, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
I'm with SKO in that it's still kind of sad knowing that Bryant's perceived ceiling might be a power hitter who hits in the mid 200s. Like, he's obviously tearing up AA but knowing that there's nothing that can guarantee he's going to be able to put up Triple Crown like numbers stinks.

Even if it's more realistic to assume he's going to be very good instead of transcendent I'm still hoping for transcendent.

Still plenty of great players (many arguably transcendent) on this list of high-K, high-SLG, decent-OBP players. Especially factoring that offense is pretty suppressed now, a theoretical .260/.340/.500 guy is incredibly valuable. I think that's realistic for Bryant with a good chance for even better.

I can't even hope for a .900 OPS out of Bryant? GODDAMMIT, ELI

Yeah, is that an .840 career OPS or the average of his most productive seasons? Career .840 is pretty fucking spectacular.
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #207 on: June 13, 2014, 02:35:20 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on June 13, 2014, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 13, 2014, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 13, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
I'm with SKO in that it's still kind of sad knowing that Bryant's perceived ceiling might be a power hitter who hits in the mid 200s. Like, he's obviously tearing up AA but knowing that there's nothing that can guarantee he's going to be able to put up Triple Crown like numbers stinks.

Even if it's more realistic to assume he's going to be very good instead of transcendent I'm still hoping for transcendent.

Still plenty of great players (many arguably transcendent) on this list of high-K, high-SLG, decent-OBP players. Especially factoring that offense is pretty suppressed now, a theoretical .260/.340/.500 guy is incredibly valuable. I think that's realistic for Bryant with a good chance for even better.

I can't even hope for a .900 OPS out of Bryant? GODDAMMIT, ELI

Yeah, is that an .840 career OPS or the average of his most productive seasons? Career .840 is pretty fucking spectacular.

That was career. I'TS GONNA

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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #208 on: June 13, 2014, 02:59:37 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 01:08:45 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 13, 2014, 12:49:27 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 12:45:07 PM
Also, just for fun (for me), using those same filters, I tried to find someone who had a K rate above 20%, slugged over .500 and still hit .300. Since 1900, there's exactly one guy who's done that. Amazing.

So both Schwarber AND Bryant are Trout?

Everthing's coming up not-Eli!

That doesn't make any sense. Why would that be not-Eli? Your meme is falling apart, man.

You see, it's non-Eli because Mike Trout is actually really great at baseball and you want these guys to be crappy so you can be right about Epstink being terrible.

Which they wouldn't be if they keep comping to Trout.
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Re: Kris Bryant Firehose of Splooge Thread
« Reply #209 on: June 13, 2014, 02:59:54 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 02:35:20 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 13, 2014, 02:24:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 13, 2014, 02:17:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2014, 02:14:48 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 13, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
I'm with SKO in that it's still kind of sad knowing that Bryant's perceived ceiling might be a power hitter who hits in the mid 200s. Like, he's obviously tearing up AA but knowing that there's nothing that can guarantee he's going to be able to put up Triple Crown like numbers stinks.

Even if it's more realistic to assume he's going to be very good instead of transcendent I'm still hoping for transcendent.

Still plenty of great players (many arguably transcendent) on this list of high-K, high-SLG, decent-OBP players. Especially factoring that offense is pretty suppressed now, a theoretical .260/.340/.500 guy is incredibly valuable. I think that's realistic for Bryant with a good chance for even better.

I can't even hope for a .900 OPS out of Bryant? GODDAMMIT, ELI

Yeah, is that an .840 career OPS or the average of his most productive seasons? Career .840 is pretty fucking spectacular.

That was career. I'TS GONNA

They grow fucking spectacular on trees now?
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