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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #165 on: May 21, 2018, 01:40:59 PM »
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He's hitting .306/.366/.388 against RHP so far this year. Small sample size but if Al is going to be average or better against RHP, and Happ/Schwarber keep hitting, let's just not even bother with the Jason Heyward thing anymore and just go with the All First Round Pick outfield until Happ becomes a utility player next year after they sign Harper.

Trade Heyward to the Nats after signing Harper. Even Stevens.

After all of the years of the Cubs first round draft picks being the saddest fucking list in history fielding a lineup that has Baez, Almora, Bryant, Schwarber, and Happ all in it and kicking ass is definitely bonerworthy.

Imagine if Little & Lange pan out and join the rotation.

So according to B-Ref of the 63 Cubs first round draft picks before 2016, 42 of them made the majors, so that 66.7% "success" rate was actually higher than I expected. Those 42 players have produced 281.4 bWAR combined in the majors. Unfortunately, 109.3 of that bWAR is Palmeiro and Donaldson and all of 2.9 of those wins were for the Cubs. All told the Cubs have gotten a whopping 96 bWAR total in a Cub uniform from their 63 first round picks. That's incredibly sad, and Bryant/Baez/Almora/Happ/Schwarber represent 38% of that.

Prior/Wood/Patterson/Palmeiro/Dunston/Harkey/Martz/Glanville/Orie/Derrick May/Cashner/Jerry Tab were all of the other Cubs positive value first round picks, combining for a total of 71.4 bWAR, but they were also hurt by 14 dudes who produced negative value in the majors, including some guy named Scot Thompson who was worth a whopping -4.4 bWAR.

It's almost like we should be enjoying what we're seeing from this team.

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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #166 on: May 21, 2018, 01:54:06 PM »
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on May 21, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
DPD.

I do enjoy the bumping of these years-old threads since I automatically go the beginning and see just how fucking stupid we all are.

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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #167 on: May 21, 2018, 01:56:20 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2018, 01:54:06 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on May 21, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
DPD.

I do enjoy the bumping of these years-old threads since I automatically go the beginning and see just how fucking stupid we all are.

Dude...

Quote from: InternetApex on July 07, 2014, 04:38:27 PM
In 2016, the Cubs will be a really good team. And they'll need a 4th outfielder. Boner. Time.

I've always said Apex was the only smart one. I said it at least once. I may have thought it. He's not the dumbest one, at least.
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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #168 on: May 21, 2018, 02:01:48 PM »
Almora has definitely been the biggest surprise of all of the Cubs young players because it's pretty hard to find a dude who was as bad as he was his first go-round in AA and ended up being a solid major league hitter. It really is amazing to go from an organization that couldn't teach Corey Patterson or Shawon Dunston how to make a single goddamn adjustment to seeing how they've turned Kris Bryant from Troy Glaus into Joey Votto, cut Javy down from a 40% K to a 20% K guy, apparently fixed the whole in Schwarber's swing, etc. There's not a lot of historical comps for the kinds of changes they've been able to get guys to make.
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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #169 on: May 21, 2018, 02:07:58 PM »
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
Almora has definitely been the biggest surprise of all of the Cubs young players because it's pretty hard to find a dude who was as bad as he was his first go-round in AA and ended up being a solid major league hitter. It really is amazing to go from an organization that couldn't teach Corey Patterson or Shawon Dunston how to make a single goddamn adjustment to seeing how they've turned Kris Bryant from Troy Glaus into Joey Votto, cut Javy down from a 40% K to a 20% K guy, apparently fixed the whole in Schwarber's swing, etc. There's not a lot of historical comps for the kinds of changes they've been able to get guys to make.

Also converting WillyCon into a beast catcher.  if Jim Hendry were still in charge, I feel like Contreras would be out of baseball by now.
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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #170 on: May 21, 2018, 02:14:56 PM »
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on May 21, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
Almora has definitely been the biggest surprise of all of the Cubs young players because it's pretty hard to find a dude who was as bad as he was his first go-round in AA and ended up being a solid major league hitter. It really is amazing to go from an organization that couldn't teach Corey Patterson or Shawon Dunston how to make a single goddamn adjustment to seeing how they've turned Kris Bryant from Troy Glaus into Joey Votto, cut Javy down from a 40% K to a 20% K guy, apparently fixed the whole in Schwarber's swing, etc. There's not a lot of historical comps for the kinds of changes they've been able to get guys to make.

Also converting WillyCon into a beast catcher.  if Jim Hendry were still in charge, I feel like Contreras would be out of baseball by now.

Quite possible. Not to mention Rizzo going from a guy we once hoped would be the next Adam LaRoche to Anthony Goddamn Rizzo.
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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #171 on: May 21, 2018, 04:27:57 PM »
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:14:56 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on May 21, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
Almora has definitely been the biggest surprise of all of the Cubs young players because it's pretty hard to find a dude who was as bad as he was his first go-round in AA and ended up being a solid major league hitter. It really is amazing to go from an organization that couldn't teach Corey Patterson or Shawon Dunston how to make a single goddamn adjustment to seeing how they've turned Kris Bryant from Troy Glaus into Joey Votto, cut Javy down from a 40% K to a 20% K guy, apparently fixed the whole in Schwarber's swing, etc. There's not a lot of historical comps for the kinds of changes they've been able to get guys to make.

Also converting WillyCon into a beast catcher.  if Jim Hendry were still in charge, I feel like Contreras would be out of baseball by now.

Quite possible. Not to mention Rizzo going from a guy we once hoped would be the next Adam LaRoche to Anthony Goddamn Rizzo.

Player ARSS 2018 wRC+ = 99
Player AR1B 2018 wRC+ = 79
Player AACF 2018 wRC+ = 121

Guess who's who.

/stickpoke

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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #172 on: May 21, 2018, 04:44:32 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2018, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:14:56 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on May 21, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
Almora has definitely been the biggest surprise of all of the Cubs young players because it's pretty hard to find a dude who was as bad as he was his first go-round in AA and ended up being a solid major league hitter. It really is amazing to go from an organization that couldn't teach Corey Patterson or Shawon Dunston how to make a single goddamn adjustment to seeing how they've turned Kris Bryant from Troy Glaus into Joey Votto, cut Javy down from a 40% K to a 20% K guy, apparently fixed the whole in Schwarber's swing, etc. There's not a lot of historical comps for the kinds of changes they've been able to get guys to make.

Also converting WillyCon into a beast catcher.  if Jim Hendry were still in charge, I feel like Contreras would be out of baseball by now.

Quite possible. Not to mention Rizzo going from a guy we once hoped would be the next Adam LaRoche to Anthony Goddamn Rizzo.

Player ARSS 2018 wRC+ = 99
Player AR1B 2018 wRC+ = 79
Player AACF 2018 wRC+ = 121

Guess who's who.

/stickpoke

I'm not unreasonable. Tony is allowed a month of slumping after years of being an offensive force. Russell only being a touch below league average in year four of being below average deserves no such benefit of the doubt
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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #173 on: May 21, 2018, 04:52:48 PM »
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 04:44:32 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2018, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:14:56 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on May 21, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
Almora has definitely been the biggest surprise of all of the Cubs young players because it's pretty hard to find a dude who was as bad as he was his first go-round in AA and ended up being a solid major league hitter. It really is amazing to go from an organization that couldn't teach Corey Patterson or Shawon Dunston how to make a single goddamn adjustment to seeing how they've turned Kris Bryant from Troy Glaus into Joey Votto, cut Javy down from a 40% K to a 20% K guy, apparently fixed the whole in Schwarber's swing, etc. There's not a lot of historical comps for the kinds of changes they've been able to get guys to make.

Also converting WillyCon into a beast catcher.  if Jim Hendry were still in charge, I feel like Contreras would be out of baseball by now.

Quite possible. Not to mention Rizzo going from a guy we once hoped would be the next Adam LaRoche to Anthony Goddamn Rizzo.

Player ARSS 2018 wRC+ = 99
Player AR1B 2018 wRC+ = 79
Player AACF 2018 wRC+ = 121

Guess who's who.

/stickpoke

I'm not unreasonable. Tony is allowed a month of slumping after years of being an offensive force. Russell only being a touch below league average in year four of being below average deserves no such benefit of the doubt

I'm just messing around.  Aside from last year's cliff, Russell has been only slightly below average offensively while still putting up about a 3 fWAR.  We should probably expect more but he certainly doesn't suck.

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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #174 on: May 21, 2018, 05:27:23 PM »
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
Almora has definitely been the biggest surprise of all of the Cubs young players because it's pretty hard to find a dude who was as bad as he was his first go-round in AA and ended up being a solid major league hitter. It really is amazing to go from an organization that couldn't teach Corey Patterson or Shawon Dunston how to make a single goddamn adjustment to seeing how they've turned Kris Bryant from Troy Glaus into Joey Votto, cut Javy down from a 40% K to a 20% K guy, apparently fixed the whole in Schwarber's swing, etc. There's not a lot of historical comps for the kinds of changes they've been able to get guys to make.

The whole whole?
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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #175 on: May 21, 2018, 06:42:36 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 04:44:32 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2018, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:14:56 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on May 21, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
Almora has definitely been the biggest surprise of all of the Cubs young players because it's pretty hard to find a dude who was as bad as he was his first go-round in AA and ended up being a solid major league hitter. It really is amazing to go from an organization that couldn't teach Corey Patterson or Shawon Dunston how to make a single goddamn adjustment to seeing how they've turned Kris Bryant from Troy Glaus into Joey Votto, cut Javy down from a 40% K to a 20% K guy, apparently fixed the whole in Schwarber's swing, etc. There's not a lot of historical comps for the kinds of changes they've been able to get guys to make.

Also converting WillyCon into a beast catcher.  if Jim Hendry were still in charge, I feel like Contreras would be out of baseball by now.

Quite possible. Not to mention Rizzo going from a guy we once hoped would be the next Adam LaRoche to Anthony Goddamn Rizzo.

Player ARSS 2018 wRC+ = 99
Player AR1B 2018 wRC+ = 79
Player AACF 2018 wRC+ = 121

Guess who's who.

/stickpoke

I'm not unreasonable. Tony is allowed a month of slumping after years of being an offensive force. Russell only being a touch below league average in year four of being below average deserves no such benefit of the doubt

I'm just messing around.  Aside from last year's cliff, Russell has been only slightly below average offensively while still putting up about a 3 fWAR.  We should probably expect more but he certainly doesn't suck.

Well shit if throwing out an entire bad season raises him to only slightly below average then he's great
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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #176 on: May 22, 2018, 07:55:26 AM »
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2018, 04:52:48 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 04:44:32 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2018, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:14:56 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on May 21, 2018, 02:07:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
Almora has definitely been the biggest surprise of all of the Cubs young players because it's pretty hard to find a dude who was as bad as he was his first go-round in AA and ended up being a solid major league hitter. It really is amazing to go from an organization that couldn't teach Corey Patterson or Shawon Dunston how to make a single goddamn adjustment to seeing how they've turned Kris Bryant from Troy Glaus into Joey Votto, cut Javy down from a 40% K to a 20% K guy, apparently fixed the whole in Schwarber's swing, etc. There's not a lot of historical comps for the kinds of changes they've been able to get guys to make.

Also converting WillyCon into a beast catcher.  if Jim Hendry were still in charge, I feel like Contreras would be out of baseball by now.

Quite possible. Not to mention Rizzo going from a guy we once hoped would be the next Adam LaRoche to Anthony Goddamn Rizzo.

Player ARSS 2018 wRC+ = 99
Player AR1B 2018 wRC+ = 79
Player AACF 2018 wRC+ = 121

Guess who's who.

/stickpoke

I'm not unreasonable. Tony is allowed a month of slumping after years of being an offensive force. Russell only being a touch below league average in year four of being below average deserves no such benefit of the doubt

I'm just messing around.  Aside from last year's cliff, Russell has been only slightly below average offensively while still putting up about a 3 fWAR.  We should probably expect more but he certainly doesn't suck.

Well shit if throwing out an entire bad season raises him to only slightly below average then he's great

Cool, cool.

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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #177 on: May 22, 2018, 08:27:16 AM »
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2018, 01:54:06 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on May 21, 2018, 01:27:57 PM
DPD.

I do enjoy the bumping of these years-old threads since I automatically go the beginning and see just how fucking stupid we all are.

Dude...

Quote from: InternetApex on July 07, 2014, 04:38:27 PM
In 2016, the Cubs will be a really good team. And they'll need a 4th outfielder. Boner. Time.

I've always said Apex was the only smart one. I said it at least once. I may have thought it. He's not the dumbest one, at least.

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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #178 on: May 22, 2018, 07:11:00 PM »
Quote from: Bort on May 21, 2018, 05:27:23 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 21, 2018, 02:01:48 PM
Almora has definitely been the biggest surprise of all of the Cubs young players because it's pretty hard to find a dude who was as bad as he was his first go-round in AA and ended up being a solid major league hitter. It really is amazing to go from an organization that couldn't teach Corey Patterson or Shawon Dunston how to make a single goddamn adjustment to seeing how they've turned Kris Bryant from Troy Glaus into Joey Votto, cut Javy down from a 40% K to a 20% K guy, apparently fixed the whole in Schwarber's swing, etc. There's not a lot of historical comps for the kinds of changes they've been able to get guys to make.

The whole whole?

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Re: We'll All Want To Have Albert Almora's Babies in 2016 Thread
« Reply #179 on: July 01, 2018, 11:10:49 AM »
It's the first of July, and the National League's leading hitter is our flashy young center fielder. 

What a time to be alive.
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