The Fuck Edwin Jackson Anti-Positivity Thread

[Tonker]

I hesitate to post anything non-inflammatory in what is clearly a lynching thread, but I can't get too bent out of shape about Jackson.  He sucks, but what's he supposed to do?  By all accounts he's working hard to not suck, but it's just not in him.  He's sadly become really, really fucking sucky, but at least he's not looking over to the dugout for a bail-out every time he sucks himself into trouble.  He's out there taking his fucking lumps, and taking them without complaining.  Every time he goes out there he eats an enormous shit sandwich, licks his plate clean and says "thank you".  He doesn't moan about his team-mates, and he doesn't moan about the fans getting on his back.  The Cubs have had much, much bigger cunts than Edwin Jackson.

EDIT: The whole bigger cunts that Edwin Jackson?

[Brownie]

I hesitate to post anything non-inflammatory in what is clearly a lynching thread, but I can't get too bent out of shape about Jackson.  He sucks, but what's he supposed to do?  By all accounts he's working hard to not suck, but it's just not in him.  He's sadly become really, really fucking sucky, but at least he's not looking over to the dugout for a bail-out every time he sucks himself into trouble.  He's out there taking his fucking lumps, and taking them without complaining.  Every time he goes out there he eats an enormous shit sandwich, licks his plate clean and says "thank you".  He doesn't moan about his team-mates, and he doesn't moan about the fans getting on his back.  The Cubs have had much, much bigger cunts than Edwin Jackson.

EDIT: The whole bigger cunts that Edwin Jackson?

He could use Google Maps more effectively.

[SKO]

To date all Edwin Jackson has ever done is lose games that don't matter and that the Cubs were better off losing anyways. That he's made mid-tier starter money for that on a team is no skin off of my balls. I don't think the Cubs have any intention of letting him flail away in games they actually hope to win, so I have a hard time getting my hate up for him. He belongs in the Ruben Quevedo waste bin of guys on bad Cubs teams I'll look back on and go "oh yeah, that guy! Yeah he was awful" and not in the Sean Estes group of guys who angered my anger beyond all anger everytime they took the ball and hurt the team's chances. That group also includes any start made by Jason Marquis after June in 2007 or 2008.

[InternetApex]

To date all Edwin Jackson has ever done is lose games that don't matter and that the Cubs were better off losing anyways. That he's made mid-tier starter money for that on a team is no skin off of my balls. I don't think the Cubs have any intention of letting him flail away in games they actually hope to win, so I have a hard time getting my hate up for him. He belongs in the Ruben Quevedo waste bin of guys on bad Cubs teams I'll look back on and go "oh yeah, that guy! Yeah he was awful" and not in the Sean Estes group of guys who angered my anger beyond all anger everytime they took the ball and hurt the team's chances. That group also includes any start made by Jason Marquis after June in 2007 or 2008.

All of THI. He actually makes me sad when I look at him. I don't pity him but I can at least empathize with him about how it feels to be bad at SPORTZ. Estes and Marquis deserve to die for what they did.

[Eli]

Estes and Marquis deserve to die for what they did.

For whatever reason, the thing I remember most about Estes is that inexplicable complete-game shutout in his last start of 2003 that helped seal a playoff spot. So, I guess it wasn't all bad. Just almost entirely bad.

[InternetApex]

Estes and Marquis deserve to die for what they did.

For whatever reason, the thing I remember most about Estes is that inexplicable complete-game shutout in his last start of 2003 that helped seal a playoff spot. So, I guess it wasn't all bad. Just almost entirely bad.

I remember that start too. I guess I'll let him live.

[SKO]

Estes and Marquis deserve to die for what they did.

For whatever reason, the thing I remember most about Estes is that inexplicable complete-game shutout in his last start of 2003 that helped seal a playoff spot. So, I guess it wasn't all bad. Just almost entirely bad.

I mostly remember him being the first guy that got way too many opportunities to fuck up because Dusty vouched for him. But I do remember that start against a Reds lineup where the best hitter was Ryan Freel. Good for you, Shawn. Good for you.

[Chuck to Chuck]

Estes and Marquis deserve to die for what they did.

For whatever reason, the thing I remember most about Estes is that inexplicable complete-game shutout in his last start of 2003 that helped seal a playoff spot. So, I guess it wasn't all bad. Just almost entirely bad.

I mostly remember him being the first guy that got way too many opportunities to fuck up because Dusty vouched for him. But I do remember that start against a Reds lineup where the best hitter was Ryan Freel. Good for you, Shawn. Good for you.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2003/B09240CIN2003.htm

[ChuckD]

Marquis deserve to die for what they did.

Some credit is due. He helped knock the Cards out of the playoffs in 2004 and 2005.

[PenFoe]

Jesus, you people tolerate so much bullshit.

Great - Edwin isn't a total asshat and seems like a standup dude.

Now, get off the field.

[SKO]

Jesus, you people tolerate so much bullshit.

Great - Edwin isn't a total asshat and seems like a standup dude.

Now, get off the field.

Woah, woah, all we've said so far is his sucking has been irrelevant. In the unlikely scenario he actually gets meaningful innings for the Cubs this year and pitches like he has the last two years, we will hate him with the fury of a thousand white hot burning suns.

Nobody has said you're wrong to hate him, it's just hard for me to hate a guy who has been awful when it doesn't matter. I don't hate Chris Volstad, either, but if he had somehow put up those numbers on a Cubs team that ever had a chance of competing I'd say he was worse than Hitler.

It's like hating Fred McGriff more than I hate Willie Greene. There was no question which player sucked harder, but context is everything.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Jesus, you people tolerate so much bullshit.

Wait until RV arises from the dead to point out how superawesome Edlose's peripherals are.

[CBStew]

One word...

Calvin Schiraldi

[Chuck to Chuck]

it's just hard for me to hate a guy who has been awful when it doesn't matter.

Alfonso Soriano - Career Cubs Playoff totals:

AB    R   H   2B   3B   HR   RBI   SB   CS   BB   SO    BA     OBP    SLG    OPS
28    0   3    0   0     0    0     0    0    1    8   0.107  0.138  0.107  0.245

[PenFoe]

Jesus, you people tolerate so much bullshit.

Great - Edwin isn't a total asshat and seems like a standup dude.

Now, get off the field.

Woah, woah, all we've said so far is his sucking has been irrelevant. In the unlikely scenario he actually gets meaningful innings for the Cubs this year and pitches like he has the last two years, we will hate him with the fury of a thousand white hot burning suns.

Nobody has said you're wrong to hate him, it's just hard for me to hate a guy who has been awful when it doesn't matter. I don't hate Chris Volstad, either, but if he had somehow put up those numbers on a Cubs team that ever had a chance of competing I'd say he was worse than Hitler.

It's like hating Fred McGriff more than I hate Willie Greene. There was no question which player sucked harder, but context is everything.

HE'S BEEN BLOCKING CHRIS RUSIN FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS.