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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #240 on: August 24, 2016, 03:54:49 PM »
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Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on August 23, 2016, 10:25:52 PMWow, this kid's LOCKED IN! He's almost at league-avg for hitting.

Delete your account.

Eat a dick RV. I was saying that he's locked in, and that he's finally about to hit league avg. Considering he hovered around .230 for the 1st half of the season, that's real improvement. Maybe Heyward should be paying attention.

While I'm eating this delicious plate of spotted dick, I will mention that focusing on a 22 year-old defensive stud of a shortstop's ability to achieve a league-average batting average might be missing the point.

Especially since he's above-average by both wRC+ and OPS+, and national league shortstops as a whole are batting .257/.317/.403/.720, so he's well above average for his position.


He's also currently 7th among major league shortstops with a 3.4 WAR, in his first full big-league season. That seems pretty good.

He is lucky that he only has to compete directly with Seager for awards at his position, because it's some real shit luck that he is one of the ten best young shortstop prospects of the last 10-15 years and the 5 or so that might be better than him just happen to be the exact same age he is

Seager has apparently been slightly better defensively as far as fangraphs is concerned but based on their reputation (people questioned whether Seager would even stick at short, long term while Russell has never had that issue) I'd give Addison a real good shot at a gold glove. In the AL I don't think anyone questions that Lindor's going to get that.

Russell will get more World Series rings than Seager. I'm sure he'll be cool with that.

I don't understand what any of this has to do with RV eating dick, something I think we'd all support.

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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #241 on: August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM »
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.

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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #242 on: August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.

I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.

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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #243 on: September 01, 2016, 01:21:34 AM »
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.

Statcast had his route efficiency at 98.5%.  He basically knew where the ball was going to land as soon as it left the bat, and he went straight there.
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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #244 on: September 01, 2016, 06:18:29 AM »
Quote from: Brownie on August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.

I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.

Well, I'd agree with them. Ozzie does catch that ball. But Ozzie doesn't slug .426 or reach 30+ career home runs as a 22 year old.

Because Ozzie never did either of those things period

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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #245 on: September 01, 2016, 07:30:47 AM »
Quote from: Brownie on August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.

I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.

If Addison has reached the point already where "Oh yeah? Well Ozzie was better!" is their argument we've already won the fight
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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #246 on: September 01, 2016, 08:09:47 AM »
Quote from: SKO on September 01, 2016, 07:30:47 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.

I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.

If Addison has reached the point already where "Oh yeah? Well Ozzie was better!" is their argument we've already won the fight

What is it about methheads and the need to lionize marginal slapdick hitters named Ozzie who have good gloves?
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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #247 on: September 01, 2016, 08:15:19 AM »
Quote from: Bort on September 01, 2016, 08:09:47 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 01, 2016, 07:30:47 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.

I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.

If Addison has reached the point already where "Oh yeah? Well Ozzie was better!" is their argument we've already won the fight

What is it about methheads and the need to lionize marginal slapdick hitters named Ozzie who have good gloves?

To be fair Ozzie Smith was worth 67 fWAR in his career. He managed a 6.7 fWAR campaign in 1989 despite a 102 wRC+ because he was insanely good defensively. If Addison is worth 67 wins in his career I'll take it. My point was if Cardinals fans are already resorting to "well he's not as good defensively as the guy widely acknowledged as the greatest defender in MLB history" then they don't realize how good they're saying Addison actually is.

Meanwhile Ozzie Guillen was a replacement level shitbag.

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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #248 on: September 01, 2016, 08:19:08 AM »
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Quote from: SKO on September 01, 2016, 07:30:47 AM
Quote from: Brownie on August 31, 2016, 11:38:14 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on August 31, 2016, 10:02:09 PM
Barry Larkin doesn't catch that ball.

I'm sure some residents south of Peoria would tell you Ozzie Smith does.

If Addison has reached the point already where "Oh yeah? Well Ozzie was better!" is their argument we've already won the fight

What is it about methheads and the need to lionize marginal slapdick hitters named Ozzie who have good gloves?

To be fair Ozzie Smith was worth 67 fWAR in his career. He managed a 6.7 fWAR campaign in 1989 despite a 102 wRC+ because he was insanely good defensively. If Addison is worth 67 wins in his career I'll take it. My point was if Cardinals fans are already resorting to "well he's not as good defensively as the guy widely acknowledged as the greatest defender in MLB history" then they don't realize how good they're saying Addison actually is.

Meanwhile Ozzie Guillen was a replacement level shitbag.



Quiet you, let me have my analogy.
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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #249 on: September 01, 2016, 01:24:50 PM »
Anybody still pushing back on "Best Cubs shortstop since Banks"?
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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #250 on: September 01, 2016, 09:33:28 PM »
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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #251 on: September 01, 2016, 10:34:26 PM »
12 more years on the Cubs and he might become my all-time favorite.
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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #252 on: September 01, 2016, 10:48:24 PM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 01, 2016, 01:24:50 PM
Anybody still pushing back on "Best Cubs shortstop since Banks"?

Banks was still a Monarch at Addison's age.

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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #253 on: September 02, 2016, 02:08:33 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on September 01, 2016, 10:34:26 PM
12 more years on the Cubs and he might become my all-time favorite.

Meh.  He'll never be The Mick.
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Re: Addison Russell's Barry Larkin-esque 2040 HOF Primer Thread
« Reply #254 on: September 02, 2016, 12:09:20 PM »
Quote from: Brownie on September 01, 2016, 10:48:24 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 01, 2016, 01:24:50 PM
Anybody still pushing back on "Best Cubs shortstop since Banks"?

Banks was still a Monarch at Addison's age.

Russell has better knees.
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