2014 General NFL Thread

[InternetApex]

Between the Packers' epic meltdown and the Colts' decisive ball crushing at the hands of their hated rivals, yesterday was nearly enough to redeem this entire abortion of a football season for me. Then there's the fact that I correctly picked both games and stand ready to collect enough money in my playoff point spread pool to buy a new wireless car vac.  I just need to pick the Super Bowl right vs. the spread and I'm golden.

Schadenfreude is a helluva drug.

Big pool.

It's not a big pool. I will make enough to cover what I lost in the regular season and still come away with a car vac that is slightly better than the one pictured above.

But I'm 8-2 vs. the spread so far and my only misses were GB/DAL and NE/BAL, in which I picked winners who failed to cover. I should have bet half a paycheck on this shit.

/cool story bro

[BH]

Hell of a pass by Morph.

[Saul Goodman]

Baltimore Ravens hire OC Marc Trestman.  Hilarious.

[PenFoe]

Baltimore Ravens hire OC Marc Trestman.  Hilarious.

It's a good hire.
I don't get why it's that funny. 

I hope they do fucking awful, but as someone who roots passionately against the Ravens, I'm not thrilled about this development.

[SKO]

Baltimore Ravens hire OC Marc Trestman.  Hilarious.

It's a good hire.
I don't get why it's that funny.  

I hope they do fucking awful, but as someone who roots passionately against the Ravens, I'm not thrilled about this development.

Depends on which Trestman they get. The 2013 risk-taker who frequently stretched the field vertically or the 2014 version and his plethora of WR screens.

And before anyone points out the whole "he just didn't trust Cutler DERP" defense you can explain why he'll trust Joe Flacco more.

[PenFoe]

Baltimore Ravens hire OC Marc Trestman.  Hilarious.

It's a good hire.
I don't get why it's that funny. 

I hope they do fucking awful, but as someone who roots passionately against the Ravens, I'm not thrilled about this development.

Depends on which Trestman they get. The 2013 risk-taker who frequently stretched the field vertically or the 2014 version and his plethora of WR screens.

There's certainly a duality to his results. 

In the 10 times he's run an offense, he's been in the top 5 in scoring four times and over 20 four times. 

But Flacco also doesn't make mistakes on the level of Cutler.  I'm not saying he's much better than Cutler, but he's less mistake-prone, which should help Trestman. 

Obviously the key takeaway though is fuck the Ravens.

[Saul Goodman]

Baltimore Ravens hire OC Marc Trestman.  Hilarious.

It's a good hire.
I don't get why it's that funny. 

I hope they do fucking awful, but as someone who roots passionately against the Ravens, I'm not thrilled about this development.

Because his ass just got fired for being a total disaster, and as an assistant, he has a long history of starting out well but flaming out fairly quickly thereafter.  I wouldn't want him anywhere near my team.

[SKO]

Baltimore Ravens hire OC Marc Trestman.  Hilarious.

It's a good hire.
I don't get why it's that funny.  

I hope they do fucking awful, but as someone who roots passionately against the Ravens, I'm not thrilled about this development.

Depends on which Trestman they get. The 2013 risk-taker who frequently stretched the field vertically or the 2014 version and his plethora of WR screens.

There's certainly a duality to his results.  

In the 10 times he's run an offense, he's been in the top 5 in scoring four times and over 20 four times.  

But Flacco also doesn't make mistakes on the level of Cutler.  I'm not saying he's much better than Cutler, but he's less mistake-prone, which should help Trestman.  

Obviously the key takeaway though is fuck the Ravens.

I am not so sure about this. In all but one year of his career Flacco's been in offenses that were run heavy. From 2008-2012 they ran their offense through Ray Rice and Flacco averaged just 31 passing attempts per game and only 3500 yards a year. He also never topped 60.5% completions. The one year their run game fell apart and Flacco shouldered the load he tossed 22 picks. This year Kubiak ran a bootleg heavy, zone run dominant offense that played to Flacco's strengths (deep ball accuracy, mobile outside the pocket, sort of like Jay), and Trestman's offense doesn't feature those things.

Trestman's offenses almost always rank in the top ten in passing attempts, Flacco's had two seasons where he was in the top ten in the league in passing attempts, in those two years he posted passer ratings of 80.9 and 73.1 and ratios of 20-12 and 19-22, YPAs of 6.7 and 6.4, and completion %s of 57.6 and 59.

It just seems an odd choice to take a guy who just had his greatest year ever in a run-based, play-action heavy, bootleg offense that carefully manages his attempts and takes shots downfield and put him under the tutelage of a pass-first, precision based offensive scheme running OC.

[PenFoe]

Baltimore Ravens hire OC Marc Trestman.  Hilarious.

It's a good hire.
I don't get why it's that funny.  

I hope they do fucking awful, but as someone who roots passionately against the Ravens, I'm not thrilled about this development.

Depends on which Trestman they get. The 2013 risk-taker who frequently stretched the field vertically or the 2014 version and his plethora of WR screens.

There's certainly a duality to his results.  

In the 10 times he's run an offense, he's been in the top 5 in scoring four times and over 20 four times.  

But Flacco also doesn't make mistakes on the level of Cutler.  I'm not saying he's much better than Cutler, but he's less mistake-prone, which should help Trestman.  

Obviously the key takeaway though is fuck the Ravens.

I am not so sure about this. In all but one year of his career Flacco's been in offenses that were run heavy. From 2008-2012 they ran their offense through Ray Rice and Flacco averaged just 31 passing attempts per game and only 3500 yards a year. He also never topped 60.5% completions. The one year their run game fell apart and Flacco shouldered the load he tossed 22 picks. This year Kubiak ran a bootleg heavy, zone run dominant offense that played to Flacco's strengths (deep ball accuracy, mobile outside the pocket, sort of like Jay), and Trestman's offense doesn't feature those things.

Trestman's offenses almost always rank in the top ten in passing attempts, Flacco's had two seasons where he was in the top ten in the league in passing attempts, in those two years he posted passer ratings of 80.9 and 73.1 and ratios of 20-12 and 19-22, YPAs of 6.7 and 6.4, and completion %s of 57.6 and 59.

It just seems an odd choice to take a guy who just had his greatest year ever in a run-based, play-action heavy, bootleg offense that carefully manages his attempts and takes shots downfield and put him under the tutelage of a pass-first, precision based offensive scheme running OC.

Already, this all seems reasonable and thought out.

The Ravens suck again!

[SKO]

Baltimore Ravens hire OC Marc Trestman.  Hilarious.

It's a good hire.
I don't get why it's that funny.  

I hope they do fucking awful, but as someone who roots passionately against the Ravens, I'm not thrilled about this development.

Depends on which Trestman they get. The 2013 risk-taker who frequently stretched the field vertically or the 2014 version and his plethora of WR screens.

There's certainly a duality to his results.  

In the 10 times he's run an offense, he's been in the top 5 in scoring four times and over 20 four times.  

But Flacco also doesn't make mistakes on the level of Cutler.  I'm not saying he's much better than Cutler, but he's less mistake-prone, which should help Trestman.  

Obviously the key takeaway though is fuck the Ravens.

I am not so sure about this. In all but one year of his career Flacco's been in offenses that were run heavy. From 2008-2012 they ran their offense through Ray Rice and Flacco averaged just 31 passing attempts per game and only 3500 yards a year. He also never topped 60.5% completions. The one year their run game fell apart and Flacco shouldered the load he tossed 22 picks. This year Kubiak ran a bootleg heavy, zone run dominant offense that played to Flacco's strengths (deep ball accuracy, mobile outside the pocket, sort of like Jay), and Trestman's offense doesn't feature those things.

Trestman's offenses almost always rank in the top ten in passing attempts, Flacco's had two seasons where he was in the top ten in the league in passing attempts, in those two years he posted passer ratings of 80.9 and 73.1 and ratios of 20-12 and 19-22, YPAs of 6.7 and 6.4, and completion %s of 57.6 and 59.

It just seems an odd choice to take a guy who just had his greatest year ever in a run-based, play-action heavy, bootleg offense that carefully manages his attempts and takes shots downfield and put him under the tutelage of a pass-first, precision based offensive scheme running OC.

Already, this all seems reasonable and thought out.

The Ravens suck again!

I mean who knows, maybe Trestman learned from this awful year and will play to his player's strengths, but given the way he tried the exact same gameplan on both sides of the ball as the whole world fell apart around him, I doubt it.

Either way, Kubiak's offense fit Flacco to a T, so I doubt they'll be quite as good as they were offensively this year even if Trestman's more 2013 Innovator than 2014 Clown College.

[SKO]

I feel like, if you let a team that is playing in a competitive game have control over something as important as the ball that both teams will use, and you don't even bother to check that said ball is up to standard before the game starts, that's on you for being fucking stupid.

[InternetApex]

I feel like, if you let a team that is playing in a competitive game have control over something as important as the ball that both teams will use, and you don't even bother to check that said ball is up to standard before the game starts, that's on you for being fucking stupid.

Agreed. And I'll bet you this happens all the time.

That said, the NFL is the fucking worst. Why do I keep sticking my head in this toilet?

[Bort]

I feel like, if you let a team that is playing in a competitive game have control over something as important as the ball that both teams will use, and you don't even bother to check that said ball is up to standard before the game starts, that's on you for being fucking stupid.

Agreed. And I'll bet you this happens all the time.

That said, the NFL is the fucking worst. Why do I keep sticking my head in this toilet?

NFL fans are identical to comic book movie fans who bitch and moan about how terrible every superhero movie is, then camp out outside the theaters for opening night.

[Tonker]

I feel like, if you let a team that is playing in a competitive game have control over something as important as the ball that both teams will use, and you don't even bother to check that said ball is up to standard before the game starts, that's on you for being fucking stupid.

Agreed. And I'll bet you this happens all the time.

That said, the NFL is the fucking worst. Why do I keep sticking my head in this toilet?

NFL fans are identical to comic book movie fans who bitch and moan about how terrible every superhero movie is, then camp out outside the theaters for opening night.

SKO certainly belongs to both demographics.

[SKO]

I feel like, if you let a team that is playing in a competitive game have control over something as important as the ball that both teams will use, and you don't even bother to check that said ball is up to standard before the game starts, that's on you for being fucking stupid.

Agreed. And I'll bet you this happens all the time.

That said, the NFL is the fucking worst. Why do I keep sticking my head in this toilet?

NFL fans are identical to comic book movie fans who bitch and moan about how terrible every superhero movie is, then camp out outside the theaters for opening night.

SKO certainly belongs to both demographics.

In my defense I usually bitch about the people bitching about superhero movies, unless they're bitching about Man of Steel.