Bears 2015 Draft Discussion

[PenFoe]

Fangio is a great hire.

They're still shitty.

If there turns out to be any substance whatsoever to the Charlie Weis rumor I'm sticking with this.

Yeah, we're fucked

Jesus, just hire Chudzinski before you fuck this up.

Pen, SKO and SKO were having a conversation. It's rude to interrupt.

You're just lucky I'm not listening to other SKO when he tells me to smash a rock upside your head, Bort.

Well, the Colts won't let Chud out of his contract, even for promotions. Dicks.

So, the Bears are probably fucked.

Technically the NFL only distinguished between assistants and Head Coach, so the only "promotion" Chud could get is a head job.

sounds like the pick is Gase. Who is basically a blank slate. I can't say he's bad or good, he's just a guy that happened to coach Peyton Manning, who calls his own plays. Mike McCoy has been okay offensively on his own so maybe Gase will.

Maybe they should just hire your boy Trestman for a year, fire him for a year, then re-hire him for another year, and repeat until chammionsheep comes to the Chi. 

Just read that Chud's contract actually expires in a week, so they could wait. Not sure exactly what Indy's end-game is here if they're not letting him interview but only have him under contract for another week.  Sounds like a Drunk Irsay strategy.

Gase deserves a heck of a lot of credit for turning the Broncos into a power run team (with their 3rd string RB) down the stretch when Manning lost his strength, but that's about all we know about him, beyond him obviously being a terrible interview, considering he's been passed over for every job he's been connected to this off season. 

I just want someone who will run the ball to set up play action, really.

The 2013 Broncos (with Gase as OC) only trail the 2010 Patriots in highest DVOA with play action since 2008.

ITS GONNA HAI

If only they had moved quicker...

The 2012 Redskins (with new Atlanta OC Kyle Shanahan) used play action on 42 percent of their dropbacks, the highest rate tracked since 2005.

[SKO]

Fangio is a great hire.

They're still shitty.

If there turns out to be any substance whatsoever to the Charlie Weis rumor I'm sticking with this.

Yeah, we're fucked

Jesus, just hire Chudzinski before you fuck this up.

Pen, SKO and SKO were having a conversation. It's rude to interrupt.

You're just lucky I'm not listening to other SKO when he tells me to smash a rock upside your head, Bort.

Well, the Colts won't let Chud out of his contract, even for promotions. Dicks.

So, the Bears are probably fucked.

Technically the NFL only distinguished between assistants and Head Coach, so the only "promotion" Chud could get is a head job.

sounds like the pick is Gase. Who is basically a blank slate. I can't say he's bad or good, he's just a guy that happened to coach Peyton Manning, who calls his own plays. Mike McCoy has been okay offensively on his own so maybe Gase will.

Maybe they should just hire your boy Trestman for a year, fire him for a year, then re-hire him for another year, and repeat until chammionsheep comes to the Chi. 

Just read that Chud's contract actually expires in a week, so they could wait. Not sure exactly what Indy's end-game is here if they're not letting him interview but only have him under contract for another week.  Sounds like a Drunk Irsay strategy.

Gase deserves a heck of a lot of credit for turning the Broncos into a power run team (with their 3rd string RB) down the stretch when Manning lost his strength, but that's about all we know about him, beyond him obviously being a terrible interview, considering he's been passed over for every job he's been connected to this off season. 

I just want someone who will run the ball to set up play action, really.

The 2013 Broncos (with Gase as OC) only trail the 2010 Patriots in highest DVOA with play action since 2008.

ITS GONNA HAI

If only they had moved quicker...

The 2012 Redskins (with new Atlanta OC Kyle Shanahan) used play action on 42 percent of their dropbacks, the highest rate tracked since 2005.

I wanted Shanahan over all of the other candidates but he supposedly had decided he was going to go wherever Dan Quinn went.

[CubFaninHydePark]

FWIW, heard from a guy here in Pittsburgh that a NFL agent who shops at his store, that the Jets are very interested in Cutler.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

FWIW, heard from a guy here in Pittsburgh that a NFL agent who shops at his store, that the Jets are very interested in Cutler.

Thanks.

[Quality Start Machine]

FWIW, heard from a guy here in Pittsburgh that a NFL agent who shops at his store, that the Jets are very interested in Cutler.

I heard from a guy at the Cubs store (who heard it from a guy who is "wired into the Cubs" that the Cubs were going to keep Bryant in Iowa until he relented and started playing LF, because the Cubs were all-in on Valbuena (despite my asking why the Cubs would want to get into a dick-measuring contest with their top prospect, who is also a Boras client). That was last weekend. So dudes in stores are great sources.

[SKO]

FWIW, heard from a guy here in Pittsburgh that a NFL agent who shops at his store, that the Jets are very interested in Cutler.

I heard from a guy at the Cubs store (who heard it from a guy who is "wired into the Cubs" that the Cubs were going to keep Bryant in Iowa until he relented and started playing LF, because the Cubs were all-in on Valbuena (despite my asking why the Cubs would want to get into a dick-measuring contest with their top prospect, who is also a Boras client). That was last weekend. So dudes in stores are great sources.

Cutler is going to be a Bear next year because the Bears didn't hire a 60+ year old coach in order to kickoff a rebuild and if they want to try to win in 2015 Jay Cutler's the best they're going to find at QB. And that's not me saying anything good about Jay, that's just me looking at a climate where the top free agent option is Mark Sanchez and people are calling this the worst draft for QBs (and just about everything else, wonderful year to have a top ten pick) in years.

[Chuck to Chuck]

FWIW, heard from a guy here in Pittsburgh that a NFL agent who shops at his store, that the Jets are very interested in Cutler.

I heard from a guy at the Cubs store (who heard it from a guy who is "wired into the Cubs" that the Cubs were going to keep Bryant in Iowa until he relented and started playing LF, because the Cubs were all-in on Valbuena (despite my asking why the Cubs would want to get into a dick-measuring contest with their top prospect, who is also a Boras client). That was last weekend. So dudes in stores are great sources.

Cutler is going to be a Bear next year because the Bears didn't hire a 60+ year old coach in order to kickoff a rebuild and if they want to try to win in 2015 Jay Cutler's the best they're going to find at QB. And that's not me saying anything good about Jay, that's just me looking at a climate where the top free agent option is Mark Sanchez and people are calling this the worst draft for QBs (and just about everything else, wonderful year to have a top ten pick) in years.

If Cutler is a Bear next year, he is in 2016 as well.  They save $10mm in cash and clear up $18.5mm in 2016 cap space by releasing him before March 2015.  He's on the cap for $16.5mm in 2015 if he stays, $19.5mm if he's cut.

The Bears are delusional if they think they are better off paying Cutler in 2016 to free up $3.0mm in cap space in 2015. They don't need the space this year.  They could use it in 2016.

[Saul Goodman]

FWIW, heard from a guy here in Pittsburgh that a NFL agent who shops at his store, that the Jets are very interested in Cutler.

I heard from a guy at the Cubs store (who heard it from a guy who is "wired into the Cubs" that the Cubs were going to keep Bryant in Iowa until he relented and started playing LF, because the Cubs were all-in on Valbuena (despite my asking why the Cubs would want to get into a dick-measuring contest with their top prospect, who is also a Boras client). That was last weekend. So dudes in stores are great sources.

I heard from Dan Bernstein that the Bears are done with Brandon Marshall, unless they aren't, which they probably are, except that they aren't, maybe.

[ChuckD]

FWIW, heard from a guy here in Pittsburgh that a NFL agent who shops at his store, that the Jets are very interested in Cutler.

I heard from a guy at the Cubs store (who heard it from a guy who is "wired into the Cubs" that the Cubs were going to keep Bryant in Iowa until he relented and started playing LF, because the Cubs were all-in on Valbuena (despite my asking why the Cubs would want to get into a dick-measuring contest with their top prospect, who is also a Boras client). That was last weekend. So dudes in stores are great sources.

I heard from Dan Bernstein that the Bears are done with Brandon Marshall, unless they aren't, which they probably are, except that they aren't, maybe.

What kind of store do you run?

[InternetApex]

FWIW, heard from a guy here in Pittsburgh that a NFL agent who shops at his store, that the Jets are very interested in Cutler.

I heard from a guy at the Cubs store (who heard it from a guy who is "wired into the Cubs" that the Cubs were going to keep Bryant in Iowa until he relented and started playing LF, because the Cubs were all-in on Valbuena (despite my asking why the Cubs would want to get into a dick-measuring contest with their top prospect, who is also a Boras client). That was last weekend. So dudes in stores are great sources.

I heard from Dan Bernstein that the Bears are done with Brandon Marshall, unless they aren't, which they probably are, except that they aren't, maybe.

What kind of store do you run?

Jerk store.

[Brownie]

FWIW, heard from a guy here in Pittsburgh that a NFL agent who shops at his store, that the Jets are very interested in Cutler.

I heard from a guy at the Cubs store (who heard it from a guy who is "wired into the Cubs" that the Cubs were going to keep Bryant in Iowa until he relented and started playing LF, because the Cubs were all-in on Valbuena (despite my asking why the Cubs would want to get into a dick-measuring contest with their top prospect, who is also a Boras client). That was last weekend. So dudes in stores are great sources.

I heard from Dan Bernstein that the Bears are done with Brandon Marshall, unless they aren't, which they probably are, except that they aren't, maybe.

What kind of store do you run?

Jerk store.

It's been rough, though, since they ran out of you.

[Tonker]

It's coming to something when it's left to me to bump this thread: you guys really had enough of the Bears for a while, huh?

Anyway, Kevin White: joyful positive, or gutless asshole?  Sneak attack, or bullshit toleration?

Also... Leonard?  Kevin?  Todd?  Danny?  Bud?  WTF, NFL Draft?

[Chuck to Chuck]

Anyway, Kevin White: joyful positive, or gutless asshole?  Sneak attack, or bullshit toleration?

Who? Is that Rondell's kid?

[Slaky]

It's coming to something when it's left to me to bump this thread: you guys really had enough of the Bears for a while, huh?

Anyway, Kevin White: joyful positive, or gutless asshole?  Sneak attack, or bullshit toleration?

Also... Leonard?  Kevin?  Todd?  Danny?  Bud?  WTF, NFL Draft?

Who fucking cares

[InternetApex]

It's coming to something when it's left to me to bump this thread: you guys really had enough of the Bears for a while, huh?

Anyway, Kevin White: joyful positive, or gutless asshole?  Sneak attack, or bullshit toleration?

Also... Leonard?  Kevin?  Todd?  Danny?  Bud?  WTF, NFL Draft?

Who fucking cares

I don't.

*puts on WVU hat (sister is a law professor there) and Bears jacket (still a season ticket holder)*

Fuck the Bears and the NFL.