2015: The Back To The Future Season

[Tonker]

Hopefully that at least keeps Hammel from bitching the next time Joe has to pull him early before he goes full turd.

I don't have any problem with Hammel bitching about being pulled, and I'm betting you don't, really, either.  Beats Matt F. Clement looking plaintively into the dugout, that's for sure.

[SKO]

Hopefully that at least keeps Hammel from bitching the next time Joe has to pull him early before he goes full turd.

I don't have any problem with Hammel bitching about being pulled, and I'm betting you don't, really, either.  Beats Matt F. Clement looking plaintively into the dugout, that's for sure.

I'm saying he can pitch gooder before he gets all uppity about being pulled. EARN THE RIGHT TO COMPLAIN. I pay his celery after all.

[Saul Goodman]

Hopefully that at least keeps Hammel from bitching the next time Joe has to pull him early before he goes full turd.

I don't have any problem with Hammel bitching about being pulled, and I'm betting you don't, really, either.  Beats Matt F. Clement looking plaintively into the dugout, that's for sure.

Me either.  This is one of those times when neither side is wrong.  Joe's right to pull him if he sees something he doesn't like and he's trying to win the game.  Jason's right to want a chance to give his team as many quality innings as he can.  The guy did come back and sign a pretty damn team-friendly deal after being traded.  He's bought in, and he's justified to feel like he's earned a little capital.  To celebrate a rain delay shutting someone up (if it's a joke, I missed it) who's done nothing but pitch his butt off since he put on a Cubs uniform and be loyal to them when he didn't have to is ... odd. 

[SKO]

Hopefully that at least keeps Hammel from bitching the next time Joe has to pull him early before he goes full turd.

I don't have any problem with Hammel bitching about being pulled, and I'm betting you don't, really, either.  Beats Matt F. Clement looking plaintively into the dugout, that's for sure.

Me either.  This is one of those times when neither side is wrong.  Joe's right to pull him if he sees something he doesn't like and he's trying to win the game.  Jason's right to want a chance to give his team as many quality innings as he can.  The guy did come back and sign a pretty damn team-friendly deal after being traded.  He's bought in, and he's justified to feel like he's earned a little capital.  To celebrate a rain delay shutting someone up (if it's a joke, I missed it) who's done nothing but pitch his butt off since he put on a Cubs uniform and be loyal to them when he didn't have to is ... odd.  

I am mad he hasn't managed to go more than 5 innings without falling apart in over a month and I stand by it because this is sports. If you require more analysis than that, I'm sorry. When he pitches well again, I will like him again. I owe him nothing more than this, regardless of his loyalty, because such is the relationship between fan and athlete.

Also, I wasn't celebrating it,  because the Cubs losing sucks. I just found the stories regarding his butthurt over being pulled when it was clearly the right move somewhat grating, and I think even he would agree at least after last night that he's not good right now and Joe has to do what he feels is best.

[Saul Goodman]

Hopefully that at least keeps Hammel from bitching the next time Joe has to pull him early before he goes full turd.

I don't have any problem with Hammel bitching about being pulled, and I'm betting you don't, really, either.  Beats Matt F. Clement looking plaintively into the dugout, that's for sure.

Me either.  This is one of those times when neither side is wrong.  Joe's right to pull him if he sees something he doesn't like and he's trying to win the game.  Jason's right to want a chance to give his team as many quality innings as he can.  The guy did come back and sign a pretty damn team-friendly deal after being traded.  He's bought in, and he's justified to feel like he's earned a little capital.  To celebrate a rain delay shutting someone up (if it's a joke, I missed it) who's done nothing but pitch his butt off since he put on a Cubs uniform and be loyal to them when he didn't have to is ... odd.  

I am mad he hasn't managed to go more than 5 innings without falling apart in over a month and I stand by it because this is sports. If you require more analysis than that, I'm sorry. When he pitches well again, I will like him again. I owe him nothing more than this, regardless of his loyalty, because such is the relationship between fan and athlete.

Also, I wasn't celebrating it,  because the Cubs losing sucks. I just found the stories regarding his butthurt over being pulled when it was clearly the right move somewhat grating, and I think even he would agree at least after last night that he's not good right now and Joe has to do what he feels is best.

Maybe as a veteran professional pitcher he thinks he only needs the chance to work through these problems so he can return to form and is frustrated that winning is more important to allow for game action repair work, even if he does understand why. (See the part about both sides being right up there? For some reason you've decided Hammel is wrong but he's just not.) But sure, how dare he not pitch the exact same with the exact same stats every game of the year? What a selfish asshole. Best way to correct variance is to overreact to it, that's what I always say. Your new hero Dex sucked ass for like half the year, were you wishing for a knee injury then? Or is it just the players who have the gall to be honest about their jobs since I'm sure you've never complained about yours once in your life? Hammel can absolutely express his frustration and still be supporting his team at the same time. Either way this is stupid and you're stupid and now I'm stupid. Sunavabitch. I just got SKO'd.

[SKO]

Hopefully that at least keeps Hammel from bitching the next time Joe has to pull him early before he goes full turd.

I don't have any problem with Hammel bitching about being pulled, and I'm betting you don't, really, either.  Beats Matt F. Clement looking plaintively into the dugout, that's for sure.

Me either.  This is one of those times when neither side is wrong.  Joe's right to pull him if he sees something he doesn't like and he's trying to win the game.  Jason's right to want a chance to give his team as many quality innings as he can.  The guy did come back and sign a pretty damn team-friendly deal after being traded.  He's bought in, and he's justified to feel like he's earned a little capital.  To celebrate a rain delay shutting someone up (if it's a joke, I missed it) who's done nothing but pitch his butt off since he put on a Cubs uniform and be loyal to them when he didn't have to is ... odd.  

I am mad he hasn't managed to go more than 5 innings without falling apart in over a month and I stand by it because this is sports. If you require more analysis than that, I'm sorry. When he pitches well again, I will like him again. I owe him nothing more than this, regardless of his loyalty, because such is the relationship between fan and athlete.

Also, I wasn't celebrating it,  because the Cubs losing sucks. I just found the stories regarding his butthurt over being pulled when it was clearly the right move somewhat grating, and I think even he would agree at least after last night that he's not good right now and Joe has to do what he feels is best.

Maybe as a veteran professional pitcher he thinks he only needs the chance to work through these problems so he can return to form and is frustrated that winning is more important to allow for game action repair work, even if he does understand why. (See the part about both sides being right up there? For some reason you've decided Hammel is wrong but he's just not.) But sure, how dare he not pitch the exact same with the exact same stats every game of the year? What a selfish asshole. Best way to correct variance is to overreact to it, that's what I always say. Your new hero Dex sucked ass for like half the year, were you wishing for a knee injury then? Or is it just the players who have the gall to be honest about their jobs since I'm sure you've never complained about yours once in your life? Hammel can absolutely express his frustration and still be supporting his team at the same time. Either way this is stupid and you're stupid and now I'm stupid. Sunavabitch. I just got SKO'd.

Or, OR, when athletes play badly we complain and when they play well we cheer and that's how sports work, dumbass.

[SKO]

Best way to correct variance is to overreact to it, that's what I always say.

Pssst.... hey Kyle ....

[Saul Goodman]

Hopefully that at least keeps Hammel from bitching the next time Joe has to pull him early before he goes full turd.

I don't have any problem with Hammel bitching about being pulled, and I'm betting you don't, really, either.  Beats Matt F. Clement looking plaintively into the dugout, that's for sure.

Me either.  This is one of those times when neither side is wrong.  Joe's right to pull him if he sees something he doesn't like and he's trying to win the game.  Jason's right to want a chance to give his team as many quality innings as he can.  The guy did come back and sign a pretty damn team-friendly deal after being traded.  He's bought in, and he's justified to feel like he's earned a little capital.  To celebrate a rain delay shutting someone up (if it's a joke, I missed it) who's done nothing but pitch his butt off since he put on a Cubs uniform and be loyal to them when he didn't have to is ... odd.  

I am mad he hasn't managed to go more than 5 innings without falling apart in over a month and I stand by it because this is sports. If you require more analysis than that, I'm sorry. When he pitches well again, I will like him again. I owe him nothing more than this, regardless of his loyalty, because such is the relationship between fan and athlete.

Also, I wasn't celebrating it,  because the Cubs losing sucks. I just found the stories regarding his butthurt over being pulled when it was clearly the right move somewhat grating, and I think even he would agree at least after last night that he's not good right now and Joe has to do what he feels is best.

Maybe as a veteran professional pitcher he thinks he only needs the chance to work through these problems so he can return to form and is frustrated that winning is more important to allow for game action repair work, even if he does understand why. (See the part about both sides being right up there? For some reason you've decided Hammel is wrong but he's just not.) But sure, how dare he not pitch the exact same with the exact same stats every game of the year? What a selfish asshole. Best way to correct variance is to overreact to it, that's what I always say. Your new hero Dex sucked ass for like half the year, were you wishing for a knee injury then? Or is it just the players who have the gall to be honest about their jobs since I'm sure you've never complained about yours once in your life? Hammel can absolutely express his frustration and still be supporting his team at the same time. Either way this is stupid and you're stupid and now I'm stupid. Sunavabitch. I just got SKO'd.

Or, OR, when athletes play badly we complain and when they play well we cheer and that's how sports work, dumbass.

Boom, roasted

[Saul Goodman]

Best way to correct variance is to overreact to it, that's what I always say.

Pssst.... hey Kyle ....

Fair, except I've complained about his high-wire act for a while, so it's weird how these two situations aren't the same. But sure, why not, if it gets me out of this discussion for a while. I am faced. 

Sorry, Pex, I've finally hit my limit with him. They'll give you a refund at the door.

[Quality Start Machine]

Anybody who still feels joyful positive better watch reruns of The Goldbergs or something tonight.

[Slaky]

Anybody who still feels joyful positive better watch reruns of The Goldbergs or something tonight.

It's the 4th inning.

[flannj]

Anybody who still feels joyful positive better watch reruns of The Goldbergs or something tonight.

It's the 4th inning.

The 5th wasn't exactly a pleasure.

[SKO]

20 games over.500, female doges

[Quality Start Machine]

20 games over.500, female doges

This fucking team.

[Shooter]

20 games over.500, female doges

This fucking team.

So gutless.