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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #120 on: July 22, 2015, 10:37:02 AM »
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I don't get why Joe seems to trust Travis Wood in any situation and doesn't appear to ever want to use James Russell unless he's forced. Maybe neither of those guys should be in a high leverage situation, but given my pick of the two I'll take the guy who has proven himself a quality major league reliever.

Last night it was obvious he wanted to stretch Wood out and not get deep into the pen with a doubleheader today. Oh, well.

I have precious little negative to say about how Joe's handled the pen. He clearly got his way by trotting out Phil Coke every single day earlier in the season because it worked. Coke was shitcanned into oblivion and now your fifth best reliever is Neal Ramirez.

He's also, seemingly, using Strop and Rondon - the guys with the nastiest stuff - in the highest leverage situations instead of just using them in the 9th.

Joe's a smart man. I love him long time.

I have precious little negative to say about Joe in general. He's great. This is a minor nit. I'm not going to die on the hill for James Russell, and last night I get trying to squeeze more out of Wood (although the inverse is true...he'd also seem like a guy you'd want to save for today to go 3 or 4 if Dallas Beeler shits himself), just an observation that Wood seems to get more opportunities than his performance would merit and Russell gets less.

That's indeed a small nit to pick. I don't think it's cost them much of anything. He does seem to love him some Travis Wood though, I'll grant you.

Maybe my eyes have been deceiving me, but I think Wood has largely been effective ever since he shit the tub in St. Louis in May before getting relegated to the pen (last night notwithstanding).  I'm too lazy to look into my Big Book of Statfaggotry to back this up so I'll just leave my unsubstantiated observation right here and wait for SKO to refute me in no fewer then 11,000 words.

He has been decent in the pen, certainly, but Russell's numbers are still better than Reliever-Only Wood. It just seems odd that Wood is ahead in the pecking order, is all, but oh well.

It could be that despite the current samples, they think Travis Wood is a better pitcher than James Russell, and therefor, trusted to deliver outs in key situations whereas Russell is relegated to LOOGY status and low leverage. Just a thought.
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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #121 on: July 22, 2015, 09:01:44 PM »
I love this crazy bastard
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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #122 on: July 22, 2015, 09:50:50 PM »
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I love this crazy bastard

He made Bryan Price his bitch tonight.

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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #123 on: July 22, 2015, 10:20:40 PM »
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I love this crazy bastard

He made Bryan Price his bitch tonight.

He also made Brenneman lose his shit during the force out at 2nd non-challenge.

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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #124 on: July 22, 2015, 10:49:42 PM »
I didn't watch Game 2, what happened that made Bryan Price Joe's bitch?
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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #125 on: July 22, 2015, 11:00:35 PM »
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 22, 2015, 10:49:42 PM
I didn't watch Game 2, what happened that made Bryan Price Joe's bitch?

In the third inning,  Price intentionally walked David Ross to load the bases for Dallas Beeler. Joe promptly pinch hit Bryant, who delivered a game tying two run single. So he intentionally walked David Ross,  which one should never do anyway, to get to Kris Bryant.
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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #126 on: July 23, 2015, 12:04:11 AM »
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 22, 2015, 10:49:42 PM
I didn't watch Game 2, what happened that made Bryan Price Joe's bitch?

In the third inning,  Price intentionally walked David Ross to load the bases for Dallas Beeler. Joe promptly pinch hit Bryant, who delivered a game tying two run single. So he intentionally walked David Ross,  which one should never do anyway, to get to Kris Bryant.

Bryan Price = genius
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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #127 on: July 23, 2015, 08:50:22 AM »
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Quote from: SKO on July 22, 2015, 11:00:35 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 22, 2015, 10:49:42 PM
I didn't watch Game 2, what happened that made Bryan Price Joe's bitch?

In the third inning,  Price intentionally walked David Ross to load the bases for Dallas Beeler. Joe promptly pinch hit Bryant, who delivered a game tying two run single. So he intentionally walked David Ross,  which one should never do anyway, to get to Kris Bryant.

Bryan Price = genius

He had Travis Wood warming up in the pen at the time too, so it wasn't like it was an odd move. Even if Price thought Wood had been ridden hard the night before, wouldn't you still rather keep feasting on Beeler? Wood's probably coming in at some point anyway. It was puzzling.

Nice to see Bryant get a groundball with eyes there, but man, he's a tough watch right now.
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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #128 on: July 23, 2015, 08:56:20 AM »
Quote from: SKO on July 22, 2015, 11:00:35 PM
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I didn't watch Game 2, what happened that made Bryan Price Joe's bitch?

In the third inning,  Price intentionally walked David Ross to load the bases for Dallas Beeler. Joe promptly pinch hit Bryant, who delivered a game tying two run single. So he intentionally walked David Ross,  which one should never do anyway, to get to Kris Bryant.

That would never happen if Matt Carpenter had been available.

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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #129 on: July 23, 2015, 08:58:40 AM »
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I didn't watch Game 2, what happened that made Bryan Price Joe's bitch?

In the third inning,  Price intentionally walked David Ross to load the bases for Dallas Beeler. Joe promptly pinch hit Bryant, who delivered a game tying two run single. So he intentionally walked David Ross,  which one should never do anyway, to get to Kris Bryant.

Bryan Price = genius

He had Travis Wood warming up in the pen at the time too, so it wasn't like it was an odd move. Even if Price thought Wood had been ridden hard the night before, wouldn't you still rather keep feasting on Beeler? Wood's probably coming in at some point anyway. It was puzzling.

Nice to see Bryant get a groundball with eyes there, but man, he's a tough watch right now.

My thought is this: if you have David Ross at the plate, you pitch to him. It's David Ross. Never walk a guy who makes an out 9 out of 10 times or whatever.

Price also got owned in the 9th when he walked Soler to get to another Cubs backup catcher. Which was probably the right move. And then, naturally, Teagarden roped the game winning hit off Old Piss Chapman.

Price has that right combo of unlucky and stupid that fans dream about.

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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #130 on: July 23, 2015, 10:03:12 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on July 23, 2015, 08:58:40 AM


My thought is this: if you have David Ross at the plate, you pitch to him. It's David Ross. Never walk a guy who makes an out 9 out of 10 times is only 10% of the way to first baseor whatever.


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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #131 on: July 23, 2015, 10:05:38 AM »
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My thought is this: if you have David Ross at the plate, you pitch to him. It's David Ross. Never walk a guy who makes an out 9 out of 10 times is only 10% of the way to first baseor whatever.



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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #132 on: July 23, 2015, 12:56:33 PM »
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2015, 10:05:38 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 23, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 23, 2015, 08:58:40 AM
My thought is this: if you have David Ross at the plate, you pitch to him. It's David Ross. Never walk a guy who makes an out 9 out of 10 times is only 10% of the way to first baseor whatever.


Gil'ed.
This is an amazing quote fail. I'm not even sure how you pulled it off


He put a quote around Slak's already quoted post or something... Irregardless, fixed

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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #133 on: July 23, 2015, 01:12:19 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on July 23, 2015, 12:56:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2015, 10:05:38 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 23, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 23, 2015, 08:58:40 AM
My thought is this: if you have David Ross at the plate, you pitch to him. It's David Ross. Never walk a guy who makes an out 9 out of 10 times is only 10% of the way to first baseor whatever.


Gil'ed.
This is an amazing quote fail. I'm not even sure how you pulled it off


He put a quote around Slak's already quoted post or something... Irregardless, fixed

Should of left it in all its PANKish glory.
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Re: Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses
« Reply #134 on: July 23, 2015, 01:17:48 PM »
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 23, 2015, 01:12:19 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 23, 2015, 12:56:33 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2015, 10:05:38 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on July 23, 2015, 10:03:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 23, 2015, 08:58:40 AM
My thought is this: if you have David Ross at the plate, you pitch to him. It's David Ross. Never walk a guy who makes an out 9 out of 10 times is only 10% of the way to first baseor whatever.


Gil'ed.
This is an amazing quote fail. I'm not even sure how you pulled it off


He put a quote around Slak's already quoted post or something... Irregardless, fixed

Should of left it in all its PANKish glory.

Should of
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