Joe Maddon: The Man Behind the Glasses

[Oleg]

It was nice to let MLB let the Big XII crew take over umpiring this game for bit, then confused the LA Dodgers for Texa$$$

What

Jokes made from a POV not shared by the majority are hard to pull off.

Maybe a generalized PAC12 referee crew - widely recongnized as having terrible moments - reference would have landed better?

maybe they were really Bo Ryan on Rt 41?

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

It was nice to let MLB let the Big XII crew take over umpiring this game for bit, then confused the LA Dodgers for Texa$$$

What

Jokes made from a POV not shared by the majority are hard to pull off.

Maybe a generalized PAC12 referee crew - widely recongnized as having terrible moments - reference would have landed better?

maybe they were really Bo Ryan on Rt 41?

Now that's a POV we can all get behind.

[CBStew]

The third base umpire, Cooper, overrules a strike call made by the homeplate umpire, and calls what should have been a third strike a foul ball.  Something that I have never seen before.  Then he refuses to look at the replay which clearly showed that the ball was not touched by the bat.  Although he was not obliged to look at the replay, since he already bent the rules by making the call, what's the harm in setting the record straight and taking a peek?  Fortunately, Wade Davis made the whole thing moot by striking Granderson out with the next pitch.  Nonetheless, I think that Cooper should have some kind of ass-kicking.

[SKO]

HOW in the fuck do you let Jason Heyward face Andrew Miller with Almora and Zobrist on the bench

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

HOW in the fuck do you let Jason Heyward face Andrew Miller with Almora and Zobrist on the bench

His loyalty to Heyward led him to compound this mistake by not flip-flopping Edwards into his spot afterward.  Almora was going to lead off the 8th against Miller anyway, and when Cleveland's leadoff hitter hit a flare that Happ let drop, it struck me as stupid that Almora wasn't already out there (Edwards pitched around that and another single but the point remains).   Managers friggin' love to flip-flop, even when they don't have to—and Joe really didn't have to there because he likely wasn't  planning on Edwards going 2 innings anyway, but Joe is chief among the needless flip-flop practitioners as it is; it's  almost as if he went out of his way *not* to flip-flop there. 

The same guy who demoted Starlin Castro and then managed him to great things won't do the same with Heyward, who it would seem would be easier to manage through this as he seems more mature than Castro.  If it's any consolation I think that day is approaching soon, but dang it's frustrating to have to watch it play out. 

[SKO]

HOW in the fuck do you let Jason Heyward face Andrew Miller with Almora and Zobrist on the bench

His loyalty to Heyward led him to compound this mistake by not flip-flopping Edwards into his spot afterward.  Almora was going to lead off the 8th against Miller anyway, and when Cleveland's leadoff hitter hit a flare that Happ let drop, it struck me as stupid that Almora wasn't already out there (Edwards pitched around that and another single but the point remains).   Managers friggin' love to flip-flop, even when they don't have to—and Joe really didn't have to there because he likely wasn't  planning on Edwards going 2 innings anyway, but Joe is chief among the needless flip-flop practitioners as it is; it's  almost as if he went out of his way *not* to flip-flop there. 

The same guy who demoted Starlin Castro and then managed him to great things won't do the same with Heyward, who it would seem would be easier to manage through this as he seems more mature than Castro.  If it's any consolation I think that day is approaching soon, but dang it's frustrating to have to watch it play out.

Last year he left Heyward in to face Tony Watson late in a game when Almora was available and they lost, then later that season he let Heyward face Felipe Vazquez (Felipe Romero at the time) in a 1 run game in the 9th. The faith he shows in Heyward is utterly baffling, and considering the division race is probably going to be closer this year than it was in either of the previous two years giving Heyward the chance to embarrass himself in hope that it pays off down the road vs trying to win the fucking game is more grating than ever.

[Oleg]

HOW in the fuck do you let Jason Heyward face Andrew Miller with Almora and Zobrist on the bench

His loyalty to Heyward led him to compound this mistake by not flip-flopping Edwards into his spot afterward.  Almora was going to lead off the 8th against Miller anyway, and when Cleveland's leadoff hitter hit a flare that Happ let drop, it struck me as stupid that Almora wasn't already out there (Edwards pitched around that and another single but the point remains).   Managers friggin' love to flip-flop, even when they don't have to—and Joe really didn't have to there because he likely wasn't  planning on Edwards going 2 innings anyway, but Joe is chief among the needless flip-flop practitioners as it is; it's  almost as if he went out of his way *not* to flip-flop there. 

The same guy who demoted Starlin Castro and then managed him to great things won't do the same with Heyward, who it would seem would be easier to manage through this as he seems more mature than Castro.  If it's any consolation I think that day is approaching soon, but dang it's frustrating to have to watch it play out.

Last year he left Heyward in to face Tony Watson late in a game when Almora was available and they lost, then later that season he let Heyward face Felipe Vazquez (Felipe Romero at the time) in a 1 run game in the 9th. The faith he shows in Heyward is utterly baffling, and considering the division race is probably going to be closer this year than it was in either of the previous two years giving Heyward the chance to embarrass himself in hope that it pays off down the road vs trying to win the fucking game is more grating than ever.

I'm glad you guys are able to find common ground...no one mention Addison Russell.

[SKO]

HOW in the fuck do you let Jason Heyward face Andrew Miller with Almora and Zobrist on the bench

His loyalty to Heyward led him to compound this mistake by not flip-flopping Edwards into his spot afterward.  Almora was going to lead off the 8th against Miller anyway, and when Cleveland's leadoff hitter hit a flare that Happ let drop, it struck me as stupid that Almora wasn't already out there (Edwards pitched around that and another single but the point remains).   Managers friggin' love to flip-flop, even when they don't have to—and Joe really didn't have to there because he likely wasn't  planning on Edwards going 2 innings anyway, but Joe is chief among the needless flip-flop practitioners as it is; it's  almost as if he went out of his way *not* to flip-flop there. 

The same guy who demoted Starlin Castro and then managed him to great things won't do the same with Heyward, who it would seem would be easier to manage through this as he seems more mature than Castro.  If it's any consolation I think that day is approaching soon, but dang it's frustrating to have to watch it play out.

Last year he left Heyward in to face Tony Watson late in a game when Almora was available and they lost, then later that season he let Heyward face Felipe Vazquez (Felipe Romero at the time) in a 1 run game in the 9th. The faith he shows in Heyward is utterly baffling, and considering the division race is probably going to be closer this year than it was in either of the previous two years giving Heyward the chance to embarrass himself in hope that it pays off down the road vs trying to win the fucking game is more grating than ever.

I'm glad you guys are able to find common ground...no one mention Addison Russell.

The guy whose OPS is now lower than it was as a rookie?

[R-V]

HOW in the fuck do you let Jason Heyward face Andrew Miller with Almora and Zobrist on the bench

His loyalty to Heyward led him to compound this mistake by not flip-flopping Edwards into his spot afterward.  Almora was going to lead off the 8th against Miller anyway, and when Cleveland's leadoff hitter hit a flare that Happ let drop, it struck me as stupid that Almora wasn't already out there (Edwards pitched around that and another single but the point remains).   Managers friggin' love to flip-flop, even when they don't have to—and Joe really didn't have to there because he likely wasn't  planning on Edwards going 2 innings anyway, but Joe is chief among the needless flip-flop practitioners as it is; it's  almost as if he went out of his way *not* to flip-flop there. 

The same guy who demoted Starlin Castro and then managed him to great things won't do the same with Heyward, who it would seem would be easier to manage through this as he seems more mature than Castro.  If it's any consolation I think that day is approaching soon, but dang it's frustrating to have to watch it play out.

Last year he left Heyward in to face Tony Watson late in a game when Almora was available and they lost, then later that season he let Heyward face Felipe Vazquez (Felipe Romero at the time) in a 1 run game in the 9th. The faith he shows in Heyward is utterly baffling, and considering the division race is probably going to be closer this year than it was in either of the previous two years giving Heyward the chance to embarrass himself in hope that it pays off down the road vs trying to win the fucking game is more grating than ever.

I'm glad you guys are able to find common ground...no one mention Addison Russell.

The guy whose OPS is now lower than it was as a rookie?

In the fantasy world where the Cubs can get Machado without giving up Russell or Happ, and Maddon finally gives up on Heyward, Machado would basically replace Heyward in the everyday lineup. Machado at 3B and Bryant in RF.

[Quality Start Machine]

HOW in the fuck do you let Jason Heyward face Andrew Miller with Almora and Zobrist on the bench

His loyalty to Heyward led him to compound this mistake by not flip-flopping Edwards into his spot afterward.  Almora was going to lead off the 8th against Miller anyway, and when Cleveland's leadoff hitter hit a flare that Happ let drop, it struck me as stupid that Almora wasn't already out there (Edwards pitched around that and another single but the point remains).   Managers friggin' love to flip-flop, even when they don't have to—and Joe really didn't have to there because he likely wasn't  planning on Edwards going 2 innings anyway, but Joe is chief among the needless flip-flop practitioners as it is; it's  almost as if he went out of his way *not* to flip-flop there. 

The same guy who demoted Starlin Castro and then managed him to great things won't do the same with Heyward, who it would seem would be easier to manage through this as he seems more mature than Castro.  If it's any consolation I think that day is approaching soon, but dang it's frustrating to have to watch it play out.

Last year he left Heyward in to face Tony Watson late in a game when Almora was available and they lost, then later that season he let Heyward face Felipe Vazquez (Felipe Romero at the time) in a 1 run game in the 9th. The faith he shows in Heyward is utterly baffling, and considering the division race is probably going to be closer this year than it was in either of the previous two years giving Heyward the chance to embarrass himself in hope that it pays off down the road vs trying to win the fucking game is more grating than ever.

I'm glad you guys are able to find common ground...no one mention Addison Russell.

The guy whose OPS is now lower than it was as a rookie?

In the fantasy world where the Cubs can get Machado without giving up Russell or Happ, and Maddon finally gives up on Heyward, Machado would basically replace Heyward in the everyday lineup. Machado at 3B and Bryant in RF.

Baltimore doesn't make a deal without Russell. Who else would get thrown in would depend on who else is in the bidding...the D-Backs falling back to the pack means the Dodgers might be back in if they can throw enough prospects at the Os to get them to eat some of Machado's salary.

[R-V]

Baltimore doesn't make a deal without Russell.

That settles it, Russell's out of the deal.

[Saul Goodman]

Baltimore doesn't make a deal without Russell.

That settles it, Russell's out of the deal.

Cubs get:
Manny Machado

Orioles get:
Jason Heyward
David Ross
Manny Alexander
Chili Davis
Joe’s RV
Jerry Hairston
Mike Fontenot
Todd Ricketts

Please RT

[Oleg]

HOW in the fuck do you let Jason Heyward face Andrew Miller with Almora and Zobrist on the bench

His loyalty to Heyward led him to compound this mistake by not flip-flopping Edwards into his spot afterward.  Almora was going to lead off the 8th against Miller anyway, and when Cleveland's leadoff hitter hit a flare that Happ let drop, it struck me as stupid that Almora wasn't already out there (Edwards pitched around that and another single but the point remains).   Managers friggin' love to flip-flop, even when they don't have to—and Joe really didn't have to there because he likely wasn't  planning on Edwards going 2 innings anyway, but Joe is chief among the needless flip-flop practitioners as it is; it's  almost as if he went out of his way *not* to flip-flop there. 

The same guy who demoted Starlin Castro and then managed him to great things won't do the same with Heyward, who it would seem would be easier to manage through this as he seems more mature than Castro.  If it's any consolation I think that day is approaching soon, but dang it's frustrating to have to watch it play out.

Last year he left Heyward in to face Tony Watson late in a game when Almora was available and they lost, then later that season he let Heyward face Felipe Vazquez (Felipe Romero at the time) in a 1 run game in the 9th. The faith he shows in Heyward is utterly baffling, and considering the division race is probably going to be closer this year than it was in either of the previous two years giving Heyward the chance to embarrass himself in hope that it pays off down the road vs trying to win the fucking game is more grating than ever.

I'm glad you guys are able to find common ground...no one mention Addison Russell.

The guy whose OPS is now lower than it was as a rookie?

You're fucking special.

[SKO]

HOW in the fuck do you let Jason Heyward face Andrew Miller with Almora and Zobrist on the bench

His loyalty to Heyward led him to compound this mistake by not flip-flopping Edwards into his spot afterward.  Almora was going to lead off the 8th against Miller anyway, and when Cleveland's leadoff hitter hit a flare that Happ let drop, it struck me as stupid that Almora wasn't already out there (Edwards pitched around that and another single but the point remains).   Managers friggin' love to flip-flop, even when they don't have to—and Joe really didn't have to there because he likely wasn't  planning on Edwards going 2 innings anyway, but Joe is chief among the needless flip-flop practitioners as it is; it's  almost as if he went out of his way *not* to flip-flop there. 

The same guy who demoted Starlin Castro and then managed him to great things won't do the same with Heyward, who it would seem would be easier to manage through this as he seems more mature than Castro.  If it's any consolation I think that day is approaching soon, but dang it's frustrating to have to watch it play out.

Last year he left Heyward in to face Tony Watson late in a game when Almora was available and they lost, then later that season he let Heyward face Felipe Vazquez (Felipe Romero at the time) in a 1 run game in the 9th. The faith he shows in Heyward is utterly baffling, and considering the division race is probably going to be closer this year than it was in either of the previous two years giving Heyward the chance to embarrass himself in hope that it pays off down the road vs trying to win the fucking game is more grating than ever.

I'm glad you guys are able to find common ground...no one mention Addison Russell.

The guy whose OPS is now lower than it was as a rookie?

You're fucking special.

well the guy with a 90 OPS+ in 1675 major league plate appearances isn't

[SKO]

dude fuckin loves bunts