Firebarn David Ross

[Oleg]

A catcher who can't hit squatting behind the dish when your ace pitching isn't exactly a new thing, guys. Why get worked up over it now?

Because why have TWO of those guys? They traded for Montero and accepted his massive contract because he is a top notch defensive catcher. There's no reason Jon Lester needs a personal catcher wasting a spot they very obviously need for another bench player when they already have Montero on the roster.

Like I said, this isn't Maddux not wanting to throw to Michael Barrett, a moron and shitty defensive catcher. This is choosing a catcher who isn't even as good behind the plate as your regular starter, and who takes up a spot that could go to someone who could actually pinch it.

Isn't this, basically, what Castillo is right now?  With all the positional flexibility on the rest of the roster, Castillo is a guy who can pinch hit.  Woo hoo!  I don't understand what roster spot Ross is wasting.  They need a backup catcher no matter what, right?  If that backup catcher is Castillo, they'd need another "someone who could actually pinch hit".  I don't understand...

Well golly why have two guys capable of pinch hitting when you have one!

How often will your backup catcher pinch hit in a close game?  I'm thinking most of the time he's held back in case something happens to the starter, right?  For fuck's sake, he's a goddamn backup catcher!

I'm all for firebarning those who deserve it (fuck you, Blake Dewitt).  But, jebus...let's everyone just calm down!!!!!

Adding kindling.

[Saul Goodman]

Anyways this is the hate David Ross thread. I have no issue with Montero. I think he'll end up hitting enough to be a useful catcher given his good defense. The point is that if Montero is this great defensive catcher that's a league leader in framing why have a second no-hit, good defense catcher backing him up?

STAY ON TARGET PEOPLE, David Ross must burn.

It's been a week no one gets firebarned. Come on.

I wanted to get out in front of this. I will bet my finest belt that by the end of this season there's no desipiot alive who won't want to add kindling to this purging blaze.

Challenge accepted.  *orders Ross shirsey*

[SKO]

A catcher who can't hit squatting behind the dish when your ace pitching isn't exactly a new thing, guys. Why get worked up over it now?

Because why have TWO of those guys? They traded for Montero and accepted his massive contract because he is a top notch defensive catcher. There's no reason Jon Lester needs a personal catcher wasting a spot they very obviously need for another bench player when they already have Montero on the roster.

Like I said, this isn't Maddux not wanting to throw to Michael Barrett, a moron and shitty defensive catcher. This is choosing a catcher who isn't even as good behind the plate as your regular starter, and who takes up a spot that could go to someone who could actually pinch it.

Isn't this, basically, what Castillo is right now?  With all the positional flexibility on the rest of the roster, Castillo is a guy who can pinch hit.  Woo hoo!  I don't understand what roster spot Ross is wasting.  They need a backup catcher no matter what, right?  If that backup catcher is Castillo, they'd need another "someone who could actually pinch hit".  I don't understand...

Well golly why have two guys capable of pinch hitting when you have one!

How often will your backup catcher pinch hit in a close game?  I'm thinking most of the time he's held back in case something happens to the starter, right?  For fuck's sake, he's a goddamn backup catcher!

I'm all for firebarning those who deserve it (fuck you, Blake Dewitt).  But, jebus...let's everyone just calm down!!!!!

Adding kindling.

Well why did they sign 2015 David Ross if 2011 David Ross was available?

[SKO]

.....there's a lot of active baseball talk on Desipio right now and it rules. I missed this.

[Yeti]

A catcher who can't hit squatting behind the dish when your ace pitching isn't exactly a new thing, guys. Why get worked up over it now?

Because why have TWO of those guys? They traded for Montero and accepted his massive contract because he is a top notch defensive catcher. There's no reason Jon Lester needs a personal catcher wasting a spot they very obviously need for another bench player when they already have Montero on the roster.

Like I said, this isn't Maddux not wanting to throw to Michael Barrett, a moron and shitty defensive catcher. This is choosing a catcher who isn't even as good behind the plate as your regular starter, and who takes up a spot that could go to someone who could actually pinch it.

Isn't this, basically, what Castillo is right now?  With all the positional flexibility on the rest of the roster, Castillo is a guy who can pinch hit.  Woo hoo!  I don't understand what roster spot Ross is wasting.  They need a backup catcher no matter what, right?  If that backup catcher is Castillo, they'd need another "someone who could actually pinch hit".  I don't understand...

Geez why don't you just marry David Ross, Oleg?

They share that grey-ish beard thing

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

.....there's a lot of active baseball talk on Desipio right now and it rules. I missed this.

THIS

Glad to see a return of the multiple blue buttons upon checking this page...

[Eli]

A catcher who can't hit squatting behind the dish when your ace pitching isn't exactly a new thing, guys. Why get worked up over it now?

Because why have TWO of those guys? They traded for Montero and accepted his massive contract because he is a top notch defensive catcher. There's no reason Jon Lester needs a personal catcher wasting a spot they very obviously need for another bench player when they already have Montero on the roster.

Like I said, this isn't Maddux not wanting to throw to Michael Barrett, a moron and shitty defensive catcher. This is choosing a catcher who isn't even as good behind the plate as your regular starter, and who takes up a spot that could go to someone who could actually pinch it.

Isn't this, basically, what Castillo is right now?  With all the positional flexibility on the rest of the roster, Castillo is a guy who can pinch hit.  Woo hoo!  I don't understand what roster spot Ross is wasting.  They need a backup catcher no matter what, right?  If that backup catcher is Castillo, they'd need another "someone who could actually pinch hit".  I don't understand...

Well golly why have two guys capable of pinch hitting when you have one!

How often will your backup catcher pinch hit in a close game?  I'm thinking most of the time he's held back in case something happens to the starter, right?  For fuck's sake, he's a goddamn backup catcher!

I'm all for firebarning those who deserve it (fuck you, Blake Dewitt).  But, jebus...let's everyone just calm down!!!!!

Adding kindling.

Well why did they sign 2015 David Ross if 2011 David Ross was available?

No shit. Let's go out and sign 2011 Lance Berkman and his .959 OPS to come off the bench and pinch-hit. He's available, after all.

[Oleg]

A catcher who can't hit squatting behind the dish when your ace pitching isn't exactly a new thing, guys. Why get worked up over it now?

Because why have TWO of those guys? They traded for Montero and accepted his massive contract because he is a top notch defensive catcher. There's no reason Jon Lester needs a personal catcher wasting a spot they very obviously need for another bench player when they already have Montero on the roster.

Like I said, this isn't Maddux not wanting to throw to Michael Barrett, a moron and shitty defensive catcher. This is choosing a catcher who isn't even as good behind the plate as your regular starter, and who takes up a spot that could go to someone who could actually pinch it.

Isn't this, basically, what Castillo is right now?  With all the positional flexibility on the rest of the roster, Castillo is a guy who can pinch hit.  Woo hoo!  I don't understand what roster spot Ross is wasting.  They need a backup catcher no matter what, right?  If that backup catcher is Castillo, they'd need another "someone who could actually pinch hit".  I don't understand...

Well golly why have two guys capable of pinch hitting when you have one!

How often will your backup catcher pinch hit in a close game?  I'm thinking most of the time he's held back in case something happens to the starter, right?  For fuck's sake, he's a goddamn backup catcher!

I'm all for firebarning those who deserve it (fuck you, Blake Dewitt).  But, jebus...let's everyone just calm down!!!!!

Adding kindling.

Well why did they sign 2015 David Ross if 2011 David Ross was available?

No shit. Let's go out and sign 2011 Lance Berkman and his .959 OPS to come off the bench and pinch-hit. He's available, after all.

I'm sorry.  When I posted the link, it automatically turned the words to blue font.  Green was not available.  I figured the "kindling" thing would add the proper tone but I guess not.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

A catcher who can't hit squatting behind the dish when your ace pitching isn't exactly a new thing, guys. Why get worked up over it now?

Because why have TWO of those guys? They traded for Montero and accepted his massive contract because he is a top notch defensive catcher. There's no reason Jon Lester needs a personal catcher wasting a spot they very obviously need for another bench player when they already have Montero on the roster.

Like I said, this isn't Maddux not wanting to throw to Michael Barrett, a moron and shitty defensive catcher. This is choosing a catcher who isn't even as good behind the plate as your regular starter, and who takes up a spot that could go to someone who could actually pinch it.

Isn't this, basically, what Castillo is right now?  With all the positional flexibility on the rest of the roster, Castillo is a guy who can pinch hit.  Woo hoo!  I don't understand what roster spot Ross is wasting.  They need a backup catcher no matter what, right?  If that backup catcher is Castillo, they'd need another "someone who could actually pinch hit".  I don't understand...

Well golly why have two guys capable of pinch hitting when you have one!

How often will your backup catcher pinch hit in a close game?  I'm thinking most of the time he's held back in case something happens to the starter, right?  For fuck's sake, he's a goddamn backup catcher!

I'm all for firebarning those who deserve it (fuck you, Blake Dewitt).  But, jebus...let's everyone just calm down!!!!!

Adding kindling.

Well why did they sign 2015 David Ross if 2011 David Ross was available?

No shit. Let's go out and sign 2011 Lance Berkman and his .959 OPS to come off the bench and pinch-hit. He's available, after all.

I'm sorry.  When I posted the link, it automatically turned the words to blue font.  Green was not available.  I figured the "kindling" thing would add the proper tone but I guess not.

Hey, Oleg?

[Oleg]

A catcher who can't hit squatting behind the dish when your ace pitching isn't exactly a new thing, guys. Why get worked up over it now?

Because why have TWO of those guys? They traded for Montero and accepted his massive contract because he is a top notch defensive catcher. There's no reason Jon Lester needs a personal catcher wasting a spot they very obviously need for another bench player when they already have Montero on the roster.

Like I said, this isn't Maddux not wanting to throw to Michael Barrett, a moron and shitty defensive catcher. This is choosing a catcher who isn't even as good behind the plate as your regular starter, and who takes up a spot that could go to someone who could actually pinch it.

Isn't this, basically, what Castillo is right now?  With all the positional flexibility on the rest of the roster, Castillo is a guy who can pinch hit.  Woo hoo!  I don't understand what roster spot Ross is wasting.  They need a backup catcher no matter what, right?  If that backup catcher is Castillo, they'd need another "someone who could actually pinch hit".  I don't understand...

Well golly why have two guys capable of pinch hitting when you have one!

How often will your backup catcher pinch hit in a close game?  I'm thinking most of the time he's held back in case something happens to the starter, right?  For fuck's sake, he's a goddamn backup catcher!

I'm all for firebarning those who deserve it (fuck you, Blake Dewitt).  But, jebus...let's everyone just calm down!!!!!

Adding kindling.

Well why did they sign 2015 David Ross if 2011 David Ross was available?

No shit. Let's go out and sign 2011 Lance Berkman and his .959 OPS to come off the bench and pinch-hit. He's available, after all.

I'm sorry.  When I posted the link, it automatically turned the words to blue font.  Green was not available.  I figured the "kindling" thing would add the proper tone but I guess not.

Hey, Oleg?

Why start now?

[SKO]

A catcher who can't hit squatting behind the dish when your ace pitching isn't exactly a new thing, guys. Why get worked up over it now?

Because why have TWO of those guys? They traded for Montero and accepted his massive contract because he is a top notch defensive catcher. There's no reason Jon Lester needs a personal catcher wasting a spot they very obviously need for another bench player when they already have Montero on the roster.

Like I said, this isn't Maddux not wanting to throw to Michael Barrett, a moron and shitty defensive catcher. This is choosing a catcher who isn't even as good behind the plate as your regular starter, and who takes up a spot that could go to someone who could actually pinch it.

Isn't this, basically, what Castillo is right now?  With all the positional flexibility on the rest of the roster, Castillo is a guy who can pinch hit.  Woo hoo!  I don't understand what roster spot Ross is wasting.  They need a backup catcher no matter what, right?  If that backup catcher is Castillo, they'd need another "someone who could actually pinch hit".  I don't understand...

Well golly why have two guys capable of pinch hitting when you have one!

How often will your backup catcher pinch hit in a close game?  I'm thinking most of the time he's held back in case something happens to the starter, right?  For fuck's sake, he's a goddamn backup catcher!

I'm all for firebarning those who deserve it (fuck you, Blake Dewitt).  But, jebus...let's everyone just calm down!!!!!

Adding kindling.

Well why did they sign 2015 David Ross if 2011 David Ross was available?

No shit. Let's go out and sign 2011 Lance Berkman and his .959 OPS to come off the bench and pinch-hit. He's available, after all.

I'm still getting over the logic of "why not turn the positive of a backup catcher who can hit into a negative by adding a second no-hit backup catcher at the expense of a position player who might be able to hit?"

[Bort]

I'm just happy to have someone to hate.

[R-V]

A catcher who can't hit squatting behind the dish when your ace pitching isn't exactly a new thing, guys. Why get worked up over it now?

Because why have TWO of those guys? They traded for Montero and accepted his massive contract because he is a top notch defensive catcher. There's no reason Jon Lester needs a personal catcher wasting a spot they very obviously need for another bench player when they already have Montero on the roster.

Like I said, this isn't Maddux not wanting to throw to Michael Barrett, a moron and shitty defensive catcher. This is choosing a catcher who isn't even as good behind the plate as your regular starter, and who takes up a spot that could go to someone who could actually pinch it.

Isn't this, basically, what Castillo is right now?  With all the positional flexibility on the rest of the roster, Castillo is a guy who can pinch hit.  Woo hoo!  I don't understand what roster spot Ross is wasting.  They need a backup catcher no matter what, right?  If that backup catcher is Castillo, they'd need another "someone who could actually pinch hit".  I don't understand...

Well golly why have two guys capable of pinch hitting when you have one!

How often will your backup catcher pinch hit in a close game?  I'm thinking most of the time he's held back in case something happens to the starter, right?  For fuck's sake, he's a goddamn backup catcher!

I'm all for firebarning those who deserve it (fuck you, Blake Dewitt).  But, jebus...let's everyone just calm down!!!!!

Adding kindling.

Well why did they sign 2015 David Ross if 2011 David Ross was available?

No shit. Let's go out and sign 2011 Lance Berkman and his .959 OPS to come off the bench and pinch-hit. He's available, after all.

I'm still getting over the logic of "why not turn the positive of a backup catcher who can hit into a negative by adding a second no-hit backup catcher at the expense of a position player who might be able to hit?"

Oleg does have a valid point about backup catchers generally not being used as pinch-hitters. If Montero & Castillo are the only catchers on the roster, Beef probably does not pinch-hit in these last 3 games. Then again, Maddon likes to take nice soft poops on conventional baseball wisdom, so who knows.

[Oleg]

By the way, here's what I was looking for when I ran across the 2011 David Ross piece.

I'm pretty sure we've all seen it before.

[Eli]

By the way, here's what I was looking for when I ran across the 2011 David Ross piece.

I'm pretty sure we've all seen it before.

Well, that link is even older than the first one you posted.