Ask A Nationals Fan

[Saul Goodman]

Honestly, the fact that a fight happened isn't what bothers me. I know that happens all of the time. It's that we can't even look at that fight and agree unanimously that the guy who choked out the other guy for no fucking reason was the one that was in the wrong.

Why can't they both be wrong?

If you and a neighbor are fighting about dog poop on your yard, and he ends up choking you about it, are you going to say it's your bad for arguing in the first place? Everyone has arguments, if you choke a guy who didn't attack you in any way, you're the dumbass who took it too far.

I mean to clarify I'm not saying it's wrong to not like Bryce Harper's attitude. If his arrogance turns you off or whatever, fine. I'm also not saying he didn't scream back at Papelbon and say "let's go" or whatever. It still doesn't make it right to choke someone. That's a line you shouldn't cross, and the bizarre barrier we have between what's acceptable in real life and in professional sports doesn't change that.

I absolutely agree with you. Papelbon seems like a real cancer. He had no right to choke Harper, even if Harper is an asshole.

It's partly because I want Cubs to win all the awards, unrealistic as that is, but I also partly think that the MVP should go to a playoff bound player who, hopefully, leads his team in more than just offensive categories. (By my own definition, Sammy Sosa should never have been MVP since he was so incredibly selfish.) I'm sure Harper remains the leading candidate, but his team's slide from contention can't help his chances.

The Cubs making the playoffs in 1998 was what won Sosa the MVP over McGwire.

I accidentally clicked your name and got your profile page and apparently it's your birthday, so happy birthday and go Cubs and stuff.

[CT III]

I mean it's all dumb as shit, but if I am remembering correctly Barrett flailed away at Carlos,

No.  Z came in the dugout and questioned Barrett.  Barrett pointed to the field and Z went postal.

and he also cold-cocked Pierzynski the year before.

Yes.

I suppose I should go ahead and admit that I loved BOTH of those moments immensely, if only because I was an angry negative human during those years.

Yeah, I don't think you are a bad person for finding that amusing. I should clarify I find the Harper-Papelbon thing amusing. Nobody was seriously hurt and other teams melting down is hysterical. I just think the aftermath shouldn't consist of people blaming Harper for it. I mean, Barrett was an asshat, and I can admit that Z went too far in attacking him while also admitting that it was fun to watch him go. I think even the most stalwart Carlos defenders here will admit the dude had issues.

I just want to add that my new favorite part of the Nationals slap fight is that Matt Williams apparently had no idea what had happened.

[SKO]

I mean it's all dumb as shit, but if I am remembering correctly Barrett flailed away at Carlos,

No.  Z came in the dugout and questioned Barrett.  Barrett pointed to the field and Z went postal.

and he also cold-cocked Pierzynski the year before.

Yes.

I suppose I should go ahead and admit that I loved BOTH of those moments immensely, if only because I was an angry negative human during those years.

Yeah, I don't think you are a bad person for finding that amusing. I should clarify I find the Harper-Papelbon thing amusing. Nobody was seriously hurt and other teams melting down is hysterical. I just think the aftermath shouldn't consist of people blaming Harper for it. I mean, Barrett was an asshat, and I can admit that Z went too far in attacking him while also admitting that it was fun to watch him go. I think even the most stalwart Carlos defenders here will admit the dude had issues.

I just want to add that my new favorite part of the Nationals slap fight season is that Matt Williams apparently had no idea what had happened.

Agreed.

[Oleg]

I mean it's all dumb as shit, but if I am remembering correctly Barrett flailed away at Carlos,

No.  Z came in the dugout and questioned Barrett.  Barrett pointed to the field and Z went postal.

and he also cold-cocked Pierzynski the year before.

Yes.

I suppose I should go ahead and admit that I loved BOTH of those moments immensely, if only because I was an angry negative human during those years.

Yeah, I don't think you are a bad person for finding that amusing. I should clarify I find the Harper-Papelbon thing amusing. Nobody was seriously hurt and other teams melting down is hysterical. I just think the aftermath shouldn't consist of people blaming Harper for it. I mean, Barrett was an asshat, and I can admit that Z went too far in attacking him while also admitting that it was fun to watch him go. I think even the most stalwart Carlos defenders here will admit the dude had issues.

I just want to add that my new favorite part of the Nationals slap fight season is that Matt Williams apparently had no idea what had happened.

Agreed.

The Nationals have suspended Harper for 4 games.  He also dropped his 3-game suspension for throwing at Machado.  He's done for the year.

[Canadouche]

I mean it's all dumb as shit, but if I am remembering correctly Barrett flailed away at Carlos,

No.  Z came in the dugout and questioned Barrett.  Barrett pointed to the field and Z went postal.

and he also cold-cocked Pierzynski the year before.

Yes.

I suppose I should go ahead and admit that I loved BOTH of those moments immensely, if only because I was an angry negative human during those years.

Yeah, I don't think you are a bad person for finding that amusing. I should clarify I find the Harper-Papelbon thing amusing. Nobody was seriously hurt and other teams melting down is hysterical. I just think the aftermath shouldn't consist of people blaming Harper for it. I mean, Barrett was an asshat, and I can admit that Z went too far in attacking him while also admitting that it was fun to watch him go. I think even the most stalwart Carlos defenders here will admit the dude had issues.

I just want to add that my new favorite part of the Nationals slap fight season is that Matt Williams apparently had no idea what had happened.

Agreed.

The Nationals have suspended HarperPapelbon for 4 games.  He also dropped his 3-game suspension for throwing at Machado.  He's done for the year.

FTFY

[ChuckD]

I mean it's all dumb as shit, but if I am remembering correctly Barrett flailed away at Carlos,

No.  Z came in the dugout and questioned Barrett.  Barrett pointed to the field and Z went postal.

and he also cold-cocked Pierzynski the year before.

Yes.

I suppose I should go ahead and admit that I loved BOTH of those moments immensely, if only because I was an angry negative human during those years.

Yeah, I don't think you are a bad person for finding that amusing. I should clarify I find the Harper-Papelbon thing amusing. Nobody was seriously hurt and other teams melting down is hysterical. I just think the aftermath shouldn't consist of people blaming Harper for it. I mean, Barrett was an asshat, and I can admit that Z went too far in attacking him while also admitting that it was fun to watch him go. I think even the most stalwart Carlos defenders here will admit the dude had issues.

I just want to add that my new favorite part of the Nationals slap fight season is that Matt Williams apparently had no idea what had happened.

Agreed.

The Nationals have suspended HarperPapelbon for 4 games.  He also dropped the appeal of his 3-game suspension for throwing at Machado.  He's done for the year.

FTFY

[Oleg]

I mean it's all dumb as shit, but if I am remembering correctly Barrett flailed away at Carlos,

No.  Z came in the dugout and questioned Barrett.  Barrett pointed to the field and Z went postal.

and he also cold-cocked Pierzynski the year before.

Yes.

I suppose I should go ahead and admit that I loved BOTH of those moments immensely, if only because I was an angry negative human during those years.

Yeah, I don't think you are a bad person for finding that amusing. I should clarify I find the Harper-Papelbon thing amusing. Nobody was seriously hurt and other teams melting down is hysterical. I just think the aftermath shouldn't consist of people blaming Harper for it. I mean, Barrett was an asshat, and I can admit that Z went too far in attacking him while also admitting that it was fun to watch him go. I think even the most stalwart Carlos defenders here will admit the dude had issues.

I just want to add that my new favorite part of the Nationals slap fight season is that Matt Williams apparently had no idea what had happened.

Agreed.

The Nationals have suspended HarperPapelbon for 4 games.  He also dropped the appeal of his 3-game suspension for throwing at Machado.  He's done for the year.

FTFY

Holy shit, I'm a fucking dope.  Thanks for the corrections.

[Tonker]

I mean it's all dumb as shit, but if I am remembering correctly Barrett flailed away at Carlos,

No.  Z came in the dugout and questioned Barrett.  Barrett pointed to the field and Z went postal.

and he also cold-cocked Pierzynski the year before.

Yes.

I suppose I should go ahead and admit that I loved BOTH of those moments immensely, if only because I was an angry negative human during those years.

Yeah, I don't think you are a bad person for finding that amusing. I should clarify I find the Harper-Papelbon thing amusing. Nobody was seriously hurt and other teams melting down is hysterical. I just think the aftermath shouldn't consist of people blaming Harper for it. I mean, Barrett was an asshat, and I can admit that Z went too far in attacking him while also admitting that it was fun to watch him go. I think even the most stalwart Carlos defenders here will admit the dude had issues.

I just want to add that my new favorite part of the Nationals slap fight season is that Matt Williams apparently had no idea what had happened.

Agreed.

The Nationals have suspended HarperPapelbon for 4 games.  He also dropped the appeal of his 3-game suspension for throwing at Machado.  He's done for the year.

FTFY

Holy shit, I've smoked about a quarter-ounce of 'm a fucking dope.  Thanks for the corrections.

[Quality Start Machine]

Honestly, the fact that a fight happened isn't what bothers me. I know that happens all of the time. It's that we can't even look at that fight and agree unanimously that the guy who choked out the other guy for no fucking reason was the one that was in the wrong.

Why can't they both be wrong?

If you and a neighbor are fighting about dog poop on your yard, and he ends up choking you about it, are you going to say it's your bad for arguing in the first place? Everyone has arguments, if you choke a guy who didn't attack you in any way, you're the dumbass who took it too far.

I mean to clarify I'm not saying it's wrong to not like Bryce Harper's attitude. If his arrogance turns you off or whatever, fine. I'm also not saying he didn't scream back at Papelbon and say "let's go" or whatever. It still doesn't make it right to choke someone. That's a line you shouldn't cross, and the bizarre barrier we have between what's acceptable in real life and in professional sports doesn't change that.

I absolutely agree with you. Papelbon seems like a real cancer. He had no right to choke Harper, even if Harper is an asshole.

It's partly because I want Cubs to win all the awards, unrealistic as that is, but I also partly think that the MVP should go to a playoff bound player who, hopefully, leads his team in more than just offensive categories. (By my own definition, Sammy Sosa should never have been MVP since he was so incredibly selfish.) I'm sure Harper remains the leading candidate, but his team's slide from contention can't help his chances.

The Cubs making the playoffs in 1998 was what won Sosa the MVP over McGwire.

I accidentally clicked your name and got your profile page and apparently it's your birthday, so happy birthday and go Cubs and stuff.

Thanks. Nice to know my annual tradition of going to the ballgame for my birthday/last game of the season is just for my birthday this year.

[Saul Goodman]

Honestly, the fact that a fight happened isn't what bothers me. I know that happens all of the time. It's that we can't even look at that fight and agree unanimously that the guy who choked out the other guy for no fucking reason was the one that was in the wrong.

Why can't they both be wrong?

If you and a neighbor are fighting about dog poop on your yard, and he ends up choking you about it, are you going to say it's your bad for arguing in the first place? Everyone has arguments, if you choke a guy who didn't attack you in any way, you're the dumbass who took it too far.

I mean to clarify I'm not saying it's wrong to not like Bryce Harper's attitude. If his arrogance turns you off or whatever, fine. I'm also not saying he didn't scream back at Papelbon and say "let's go" or whatever. It still doesn't make it right to choke someone. That's a line you shouldn't cross, and the bizarre barrier we have between what's acceptable in real life and in professional sports doesn't change that.

I absolutely agree with you. Papelbon seems like a real cancer. He had no right to choke Harper, even if Harper is an asshole.

It's partly because I want Cubs to win all the awards, unrealistic as that is, but I also partly think that the MVP should go to a playoff bound player who, hopefully, leads his team in more than just offensive categories. (By my own definition, Sammy Sosa should never have been MVP since he was so incredibly selfish.) I'm sure Harper remains the leading candidate, but his team's slide from contention can't help his chances.

The Cubs making the playoffs in 1998 was what won Sosa the MVP over McGwire.

I accidentally clicked your name and got your profile page and apparently it's your birthday, so happy birthday and go Cubs and stuff.

Thanks. Nice to know my annual tradition of going to the ballgame for my birthday/last game of the season is just for my birthday this year.

The Cubs are usually long since done by the time mine comes around in mid-October. Hopefully not this year.

[Shooter]

I mean it's all dumb as shit, but if I am remembering correctly Barrett flailed away at Carlos,

No.  Z came in the dugout and questioned Barrett.  Barrett pointed to the field and Z went postal.

and he also cold-cocked Pierzynski the year before.

Yes.

I suppose I should go ahead and admit that I loved BOTH of those moments immensely, if only because I was an angry negative human during those years.

Yeah, I don't think you are a bad person for finding that amusing. I should clarify I find the Harper-Papelbon thing amusing. Nobody was seriously hurt and other teams melting down is hysterical. I just think the aftermath shouldn't consist of people blaming Harper for it. I mean, Barrett was an asshat, and I can admit that Z went too far in attacking him while also admitting that it was fun to watch him go. I think even the most stalwart Carlos defenders here will admit the dude had issues.

I just want to add that my new favorite part of the Nationals slap fight season is that Matt Williams apparently had no idea what had happened.

Agreed.

The Nationals have suspended HarperPapelbon for 4 games.  He also dropped the appeal of his 3-game suspension for throwing at Machado.  He's done for the year.

FTFY

Holy shit, I'm a fucking dope.  Thanks for the corrections.

All that was missing from a "full Pank" was fucking up the quote box.

[Bort]

Honestly, the fact that a fight happened isn't what bothers me. I know that happens all of the time. It's that we can't even look at that fight and agree unanimously that the guy who choked out the other guy for no fucking reason was the one that was in the wrong.

Why can't they both be wrong?

If you and a neighbor are fighting about dog poop on your yard, and he ends up choking you about it, are you going to say it's your bad for arguing in the first place? Everyone has arguments, if you choke a guy who didn't attack you in any way, you're the dumbass who took it too far.

I mean to clarify I'm not saying it's wrong to not like Bryce Harper's attitude. If his arrogance turns you off or whatever, fine. I'm also not saying he didn't scream back at Papelbon and say "let's go" or whatever. It still doesn't make it right to choke someone. That's a line you shouldn't cross, and the bizarre barrier we have between what's acceptable in real life and in professional sports doesn't change that.

I absolutely agree with you. Papelbon seems like a real cancer. He had no right to choke Harper, even if Harper is an asshole.

It's partly because I want Cubs to win all the awards, unrealistic as that is, but I also partly think that the MVP should go to a playoff bound player who, hopefully, leads his team in more than just offensive categories. (By my own definition, Sammy Sosa should never have been MVP since he was so incredibly selfish.) I'm sure Harper remains the leading candidate, but his team's slide from contention can't help his chances.

The Cubs making the playoffs in 1998 was what won Sosa the MVP over McGwire.

I accidentally clicked your name and got your profile page and apparently it's your birthday, so happy birthday and go Cubs and stuff.

Thanks. Nice to know my annual tradition of going to the ballgame for my birthday/last game of the season is just for my birthday this year.

The Cubs are usually long since done by the time mine comes around in mid-October. Hopefully not this year.

Until fairly recently, they were largely worthless by my early June birthday.

[Tonker]

Honestly, the fact that a fight happened isn't what bothers me. I know that happens all of the time. It's that we can't even look at that fight and agree unanimously that the guy who choked out the other guy for no fucking reason was the one that was in the wrong.

Why can't they both be wrong?

If you and a neighbor are fighting about dog poop on your yard, and he ends up choking you about it, are you going to say it's your bad for arguing in the first place? Everyone has arguments, if you choke a guy who didn't attack you in any way, you're the dumbass who took it too far.

I mean to clarify I'm not saying it's wrong to not like Bryce Harper's attitude. If his arrogance turns you off or whatever, fine. I'm also not saying he didn't scream back at Papelbon and say "let's go" or whatever. It still doesn't make it right to choke someone. That's a line you shouldn't cross, and the bizarre barrier we have between what's acceptable in real life and in professional sports doesn't change that.

I absolutely agree with you. Papelbon seems like a real cancer. He had no right to choke Harper, even if Harper is an asshole.

It's partly because I want Cubs to win all the awards, unrealistic as that is, but I also partly think that the MVP should go to a playoff bound player who, hopefully, leads his team in more than just offensive categories. (By my own definition, Sammy Sosa should never have been MVP since he was so incredibly selfish.) I'm sure Harper remains the leading candidate, but his team's slide from contention can't help his chances.

The Cubs making the playoffs in 1998 was what won Sosa the MVP over McGwire.

I accidentally clicked your name and got your profile page and apparently it's your birthday, so happy birthday and go Cubs and stuff.

Thanks. Nice to know my annual tradition of going to the ballgame for my birthday/last game of the season is just for my birthday this year.

The Cubs are usually long since done by the time mine comes around in mid-October. Hopefully not this year.

Until fairly recently, they were largely worthless by my early June birthday.

The last six years they've been largely worthless by my birthday: St. Patrick's Day.

[Eli]

My birthday is in April.

[SKO]

My birthday is in April.

Mine's September 6th. It usually falls on labor day weekend, so that's pretty nice. I'm glad we all took this time to get to know each other better.