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SKO

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #105 on: October 26, 2015, 08:49:57 AM »
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

Eli

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #106 on: October 26, 2015, 08:58:23 AM »

SKO

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #107 on: October 26, 2015, 09:00:42 AM »
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 08:58:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 08:49:57 AM


happy monday to you

Hard to blame Ross. Just don't understand why in God's name a 38 year old catcher got a fucking two year deal. Countless articles have been written this year about all of the Cubs hot young prospects and the roster squeeze they'll be in trying to protect them all from the Rule V draft and oh hey here's a guaranteed spot for David Ross
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

Brownie

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #108 on: October 26, 2015, 09:51:47 AM »
Ross will have an OPS above .650 next season. It will be his death rattle, but there you go.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #109 on: October 26, 2015, 10:15:11 AM »
I missed this last week, but I think it's a pretty fair and measured analysis of Schwarber's offensive skills and his defensive, uh, skills(?).

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-playoffs-kyle-schwarber-chicago-cubs-future/

Something that I don't think gets talked about with trading Schwarber is his body type (insert standard Desipio BMI joke). Guys like him age differently than thinner players and it's not particularly pretty. Then again, it's entirely possible that the value of his bat will be so substantial in the next 2-3 years it would surpass whatever value you could get from him in a trade this winter. I worry more about him once he hits his later 20s, but I guess that's still a ways off.

All that said, this is mostly for the sake of combating offseason boredom. I still don't think he's going anywhere.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #110 on: October 26, 2015, 10:32:05 AM »
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 08:58:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 08:49:57 AM


happy monday to you

Hard to blame Ross. Just don't understand why in God's name a 38 year old catcher got a fucking two year deal. Countless articles have been written this year about all of the Cubs hot young prospects and the roster squeeze they'll be in trying to protect them all from the Rule V draft and oh hey here's a guaranteed spot for David Ross

A whole winter of this.

SKO

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #111 on: October 26, 2015, 10:32:54 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2015, 10:32:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 08:58:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 08:49:57 AM


happy monday to you

Hard to blame Ross. Just don't understand why in God's name a 38 year old catcher got a fucking two year deal. Countless articles have been written this year about all of the Cubs hot young prospects and the roster squeeze they'll be in trying to protect them all from the Rule V draft and oh hey here's a guaranteed spot for David Ross

A whole winter of this.

I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about Ross between now and his first start next year.
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

Eli

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #112 on: October 26, 2015, 10:33:51 AM »
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 10:32:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2015, 10:32:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 08:58:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 08:49:57 AM


happy monday to you

Hard to blame Ross. Just don't understand why in God's name a 38 year old catcher got a fucking two year deal. Countless articles have been written this year about all of the Cubs hot young prospects and the roster squeeze they'll be in trying to protect them all from the Rule V draft and oh hey here's a guaranteed spot for David Ross

A whole winter of this.

I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about Ross between now and his first start next year.

I think someone needs a signature change.

SKO

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #113 on: October 26, 2015, 10:42:20 AM »
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 10:33:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 10:32:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2015, 10:32:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 08:58:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 08:49:57 AM


happy monday to you

Hard to blame Ross. Just don't understand why in God's name a 38 year old catcher got a fucking two year deal. Countless articles have been written this year about all of the Cubs hot young prospects and the roster squeeze they'll be in trying to protect them all from the Rule V draft and oh hey here's a guaranteed spot for David Ross

A whole winter of this.

I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about Ross between now and his first start next year.

I think someone needs a signature change.

Done
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

Slaky

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #114 on: October 26, 2015, 10:42:48 AM »
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 10:33:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 10:32:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2015, 10:32:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 08:58:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 08:49:57 AM


happy monday to you

Hard to blame Ross. Just don't understand why in God's name a 38 year old catcher got a fucking two year deal. Countless articles have been written this year about all of the Cubs hot young prospects and the roster squeeze they'll be in trying to protect them all from the Rule V draft and oh hey here's a guaranteed spot for David Ross

A whole winter of this.

I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about Ross between now and his first start next year.

I think someone needs a signature change.

Done

I guess it can also apply to Ross from Friends.

Tony

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #115 on: October 26, 2015, 10:44:53 AM »
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 10:15:11 AM
I missed this last week, but I think it's a pretty fair and measured analysis of Schwarber's offensive skills and his defensive, uh, skills(?).

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-playoffs-kyle-schwarber-chicago-cubs-future/

Something that I don't think gets talked about with trading Schwarber is his body type (insert standard Desipio BMI joke). Guys like him age differently than thinner players and it's not particularly pretty. Then again, it's entirely possible that the value of his bat will be so substantial in the next 2-3 years it would surpass whatever value you could get from him in a trade this winter. I worry more about him once he hits his later 20s, but I guess that's still a ways off.

All that said, this is mostly for the sake of combating offseason boredom. I still don't think he's going anywhere.

The AL scouts quoted in that article all think he can't play left or catch because the want him traded to their team. They're clearly biased.

SKO

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #116 on: October 26, 2015, 10:46:57 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2015, 10:42:48 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 10:42:20 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 10:33:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 10:32:54 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 26, 2015, 10:32:05 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 09:00:42 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 08:58:23 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 26, 2015, 08:49:57 AM


happy monday to you

Hard to blame Ross. Just don't understand why in God's name a 38 year old catcher got a fucking two year deal. Countless articles have been written this year about all of the Cubs hot young prospects and the roster squeeze they'll be in trying to protect them all from the Rule V draft and oh hey here's a guaranteed spot for David Ross

A whole winter of this.

I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about Ross between now and his first start next year.

I think someone needs a signature change.

Done

I guess it can also apply to Ross from Friends.

I fixed it so that I can celebrate the trade for Tyson Ross.
I will vow, for the sake of peace, not to complain about David Ross between now and his first start next year- 10/26/2015

Armchair_QB

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #117 on: October 26, 2015, 12:54:58 PM »
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 10:15:11 AM
I missed this last week, but I think it's a pretty fair and measured analysis of Schwarber's offensive skills and his defensive, uh, skills(?).

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-playoffs-kyle-schwarber-chicago-cubs-future/

Something that I don't think gets talked about with trading Schwarber is his body type (insert standard Desipio BMI joke). Guys like him age differently than thinner players and it's not particularly pretty. Then again, it's entirely possible that the value of his bat will be so substantial in the next 2-3 years it would surpass whatever value you could get from him in a trade this winter. I worry more about him once he hits his later 20s, but I guess that's still a ways off.

All that said, this is mostly for the sake of combating offseason boredom. I still don't think he's going anywhere.

I'm hanging my hat on the DH coming to the National League before his career is over. Until then, I don't care if he needs a road map to play left field as long as he keeps raking.

How many runs does a LF realistically cost a team over season? I'm guessing fewer than he's going to drive in.
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Quality Start Machine

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #118 on: October 26, 2015, 01:04:24 PM »
Quote from: Eli on October 26, 2015, 10:15:11 AM
I missed this last week, but I think it's a pretty fair and measured analysis of Schwarber's offensive skills and his defensive, uh, skills(?).

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-playoffs-kyle-schwarber-chicago-cubs-future/

Something that I don't think gets talked about with trading Schwarber is his body type (insert standard Desipio BMI joke). Guys like him age differently than thinner players and it's not particularly pretty. Then again, it's entirely possible that the value of his bat will be so substantial in the next 2-3 years it would surpass whatever value you could get from him in a trade this winter. I worry more about him once he hits his later 20s, but I guess that's still a ways off.

All that said, this is mostly for the sake of combating offseason boredom. I still don't think he's going anywhere.

So who are these people I keep hearing about who think the Cubs should trade Schwarber?
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Eli

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #119 on: October 26, 2015, 01:04:41 PM »
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 26, 2015, 12:54:58 PM
How many runs does a LF realistically cost a team over season? I'm guessing fewer than he's going to drive in.

Well, if you want a depressing example, 2008 Adam Dunn hit 40 homers with a .900 OPS and was still a below-replacement-level player because his defense was so bad. Of course, Dunn was historically terrible in the outfield and Schwarber should be able to top that (I sure hope).