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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #210 on: November 06, 2015, 09:50:55 AM »
Welp.

QuoteDavid Price: Two agents for free-agent starting pitchers predict that Price will sign with the Cubs. An executive who knows Price says that the Cubs are his first choice. It's all talk until the contract is signed, particularly when the Dodgers, Giants, Cardinals and Red Sox all could be in the mix.

Also.

QuoteOn his podcast, ESPN.com's Buster Olney said that he has heard that the Cubs are "heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy favorites" to sign Price in free agency.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #211 on: November 06, 2015, 09:56:18 AM »
Quote from: Eli on November 06, 2015, 09:50:55 AM
Welp.

QuoteDavid Price: Two agents for free-agent starting pitchers predict that Price will sign with the Cubs. An executive who knows Price says that the Cubs are his first choice. It's all talk until the contract is signed, particularly when the Dodgers, Giants, Cardinals and Red Sox all could be in the mix.

Also.

QuoteOn his podcast, ESPN.com's Buster Olney said that he has heard that the Cubs are "heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy favorites" to sign Price in free agency.

This makes sense, to me, if it means they're not worried about locking up Arrieta after next year which, as strange as that sounds, is just the type of coldblooded, objective move that would get me even more excited about this front office were that to come to pass.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #212 on: November 06, 2015, 10:05:38 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on November 06, 2015, 09:56:18 AM
Quote from: Eli on November 06, 2015, 09:50:55 AM
Welp.

QuoteDavid Price: Two agents for free-agent starting pitchers predict that Price will sign with the Cubs. An executive who knows Price says that the Cubs are his first choice. It's all talk until the contract is signed, particularly when the Dodgers, Giants, Cardinals and Red Sox all could be in the mix.

Also.

QuoteOn his podcast, ESPN.com's Buster Olney said that he has heard that the Cubs are "heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy favorites" to sign Price in free agency.

This makes sense, to me, if it means they're not worried about locking up Arrieta after next year which, as strange as that sounds, is just the type of coldblooded, objective move that would get me even more excited about this front office were that to come to pass.

This is pretty much exactly how last offseason started with Lester, so God I hope it plays out the same way.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #213 on: November 06, 2015, 10:16:21 AM »
I'm still not sure that $200MM+ for Price is the best use of resources but if Jepstink decides it is, I'll shut up and enjoy the dumb ensuing debate about who starts Opening Day.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #214 on: November 06, 2015, 10:51:12 AM »
Quote from: Eli on November 06, 2015, 10:16:21 AM
I'm still not sure that $200MM+ for Price is the best use of resources but if Jepstink decides it is, I'll shut up and enjoy the dumb ensuing debate about who starts Opening Day.

My guess is they wouldn't put all of their eggs into the Price basket. I doubt they'd sign him if they weren't assured that there would still be some flexibility in future offseasons. Obviously not a 200 million dollar contract added every year, but I feel like they wouldn't commit everything to Price if they knew they were fucked if it fails.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #215 on: November 06, 2015, 11:01:58 AM »
If they did sign Price, I'd still want them to get another starting pitcher in a trade. They wouldn't have to go get a Tyson Ross or Corrasco that would cost them a guy like Soler, but trading whoever in the minor for a quality, cost-controlled #3 type would be good. Whatever they do I'd like them to be in a situation where Hammel and Hendricks are competing for one spot in the rotation, rather than counting on both of them.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #216 on: November 06, 2015, 11:12:39 AM »
Quote from: SKO on November 06, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
If they did sign Price, I'd still want them to get another starting pitcher in a trade. They wouldn't have to go get a Tyson Ross or Corrasco that would cost them a guy like Soler, but trading whoever in the minor for a quality, cost-controlled #3 type would be good. Whatever they do I'd like them to be in a situation where Hammel and Hendricks are competing for one spot in the rotation, rather than counting on both of them.

Unless one of them goes the other way in the trade for said pitcher.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #217 on: November 06, 2015, 11:12:54 AM »
If the front three are Lester, Arrieta & Price, why deal for a fourth starter? Why not a low-money deal for another free agent?
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #218 on: November 06, 2015, 11:16:15 AM »
Quote from: Armchair_QB on November 06, 2015, 11:12:54 AM
If the front three are Lester, Arrieta & Price, why deal for a fourth starter? Why not a low-money deal for another free agent?

Because a rotation isn't like taking an average. They would ideally still have 5 capable starters, regardless of how good the top 3 are.

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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #219 on: November 06, 2015, 11:18:19 AM »
Quote from: Eli on November 06, 2015, 11:16:15 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on November 06, 2015, 11:12:54 AM
If the front three are Lester, Arrieta & Price, why deal for a fourth starter? Why not a low-money deal for another free agent?

Because a rotation isn't like taking an average. They would ideally still have 5 capable starters, regardless of how good the top 3 are.

And it would be nice to balance out the three expensive vets (Jake gonna get paid in arbitration whether they work out an extension or not) with some cost-controlled, talented young guys at the bottom.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #220 on: November 06, 2015, 11:18:40 AM »
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on November 06, 2015, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 06, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
If they did sign Price, I'd still want them to get another starting pitcher in a trade. They wouldn't have to go get a Tyson Ross or Corrasco that would cost them a guy like Soler, but trading whoever in the minor for a quality, cost-controlled #3 type would be good. Whatever they do I'd like them to be in a situation where Hammel and Hendricks are competing for one spot in the rotation, rather than counting on both of them.

Unless one of them goes the other way in the trade for said pitcher.

If Hammel can be used to get anything that's notjasonhammel that'd be good enough for me.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #221 on: November 06, 2015, 11:35:56 AM »
Arrieta
Lester
Price
Wei-Yin Chen
Hendricks/Pierce Johnson/Hammel
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #222 on: November 06, 2015, 11:47:58 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on November 06, 2015, 11:18:40 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on November 06, 2015, 11:12:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on November 06, 2015, 11:01:58 AM
If they did sign Price, I'd still want them to get another starting pitcher in a trade. They wouldn't have to go get a Tyson Ross or Corrasco that would cost them a guy like Soler, but trading whoever in the minor for a quality, cost-controlled #3 type would be good. Whatever they do I'd like them to be in a situation where Hammel and Hendricks are competing for one spot in the rotation, rather than counting on both of them.

Unless one of them goes the other way in the trade for said pitcher.

If Hammel can be used to get anything that's notjasonhammel that'd be good enough for me.

I reckon they should ride Hammel's inevitable first-half hot streak and then flip him at the deadline even though they're twenty games over .500 and obviously buyers.  Baltimore will give up something decent for him.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #223 on: November 06, 2015, 11:59:31 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on November 06, 2015, 11:35:56 AM
Arrieta
Lester
Price
Wei-Yin Chen
Hendricks/Pierce Johnson/Hammel

I've wanted Chen for a long time but I doubt they would or should try to outbid the Yankees who are in hot pursuit.
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Re: 2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross
« Reply #224 on: November 06, 2015, 12:25:40 PM »
Quote from: Eli on November 06, 2015, 10:16:21 AM
I'm still not sure that $200MM+ for Price is the best use of resources but if Jepstink decides it is, I'll shut up and enjoy the dumb ensuing debate about who starts Opening Day.
That's easy.  The one who doesn't need Tommy John surgery.
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