2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross

[Quality Start Machine]

There were 40,000 scouts all groaning as he was flailing at grounders.

If he can handle a ground ball at 3B, he can probably handle a ground ball at 1B. And he got two chances in that game and handled them both, so I'm skeptical that 40,000 people were groaning about it.

+1

Fork saw him play, dammit, and he was the worst defensive first baseman he'd seen since Jimbo Dumbledick managed to throw a ball into left field on a play where they had the runner dead to rights on a pickoff at second back in '68. Fork remembers because he was wearing an onion on his belt that day, which was the style at the time.

He missed a couple fairly easy grounders that didn't go in as chances. But sure, if he gets some reps in during Spring Training he can at least be better than McStiff ever was, so I guess that's OK for spot duty. Zobrist has 17 games in his career there as well. Did not attend any of those.

[SKO]

There were 40,000 scouts all groaning as he was flailing at grounders.

If he can handle a ground ball at 3B, he can probably handle a ground ball at 1B. And he got two chances in that game and handled them both, so I'm skeptical that 40,000 people were groaning about it.

+1

Fork saw him play, dammit, and he was the worst defensive first baseman he'd seen since Jimbo Dumbledick managed to throw a ball into left field on a play where they had the runner dead to rights on a pickoff at second back in '68. Fork remembers because he was wearing an onion on his belt that day, which was the style at the time.

He missed a couple fairly easy grounders that didn't go in as chances. But sure, if he gets some reps in during Spring Training he can at least be better than McStiff ever was, so I guess that's OK for spot duty. Zobrist has 17 games in his career there as well. Did not attend any of those.

He played 6 innings at first base in that game, and in those 6 innings Kyle Hendricks gave up 2 hits, one of which was a GB through the SS/2B hole, one of which was a double past second base. Will you just admit you're full of shit?

[CT III]

There were 40,000 scouts all groaning as he was flailing at grounders.

If he can handle a ground ball at 3B, he can probably handle a ground ball at 1B. And he got two chances in that game and handled them both, so I'm skeptical that 40,000 people were groaning about it.

+1

Fork saw him play, dammit, and he was the worst defensive first baseman he'd seen since Jimbo Dumbledick managed to throw a ball into left field on a play where they had the runner dead to rights on a pickoff at second back in '68. Fork remembers because he was wearing an onion on his belt that day, which was the style at the time.

He missed a couple fairly easy grounders that didn't go in as chances. But sure, if he gets some reps in during Spring Training he can at least be better than McStiff ever was, so I guess that's OK for spot duty. Zobrist has 17 games in his career there as well. Did not attend any of those.

He played 6 innings at first base in that game, and in those 6 innings Kyle Hendricks gave up 2 hits, one of which was a GB through the SS/2B hole, one of which was a double past second base. Will you just admit you're full of shit?

So you're admitting that Kyle Hendricks is good?  Just want to make sure we're all on the same page.

[Quality Start Machine]

There were 40,000 scouts all groaning as he was flailing at grounders.

If he can handle a ground ball at 3B, he can probably handle a ground ball at 1B. And he got two chances in that game and handled them both, so I'm skeptical that 40,000 people were groaning about it.

+1

Fork saw him play, dammit, and he was the worst defensive first baseman he'd seen since Jimbo Dumbledick managed to throw a ball into left field on a play where they had the runner dead to rights on a pickoff at second back in '68. Fork remembers because he was wearing an onion on his belt that day, which was the style at the time.

He missed a couple fairly easy grounders that didn't go in as chances. But sure, if he gets some reps in during Spring Training he can at least be better than McStiff ever was, so I guess that's OK for spot duty. Zobrist has 17 games in his career there as well. Did not attend any of those.

He played 6 innings at first base in that game, and in those 6 innings Kyle Hendricks gave up 2 hits, one of which was a GB through the SS/2B hole, one of which was a double past second base. Will you just admit you're full of shit?

I saw him dive and miss a ball, and he just didn't have a handle on getting over to the bag. I'm full of shit about a bunch of stuff, just not this.

[SKO]

There were 40,000 scouts all groaning as he was flailing at grounders.

If he can handle a ground ball at 3B, he can probably handle a ground ball at 1B. And he got two chances in that game and handled them both, so I'm skeptical that 40,000 people were groaning about it.

+1

Fork saw him play, dammit, and he was the worst defensive first baseman he'd seen since Jimbo Dumbledick managed to throw a ball into left field on a play where they had the runner dead to rights on a pickoff at second back in '68. Fork remembers because he was wearing an onion on his belt that day, which was the style at the time.

He missed a couple fairly easy grounders that didn't go in as chances. But sure, if he gets some reps in during Spring Training he can at least be better than McStiff ever was, so I guess that's OK for spot duty. Zobrist has 17 games in his career there as well. Did not attend any of those.

He played 6 innings at first base in that game, and in those 6 innings Kyle Hendricks gave up 2 hits, one of which was a GB through the SS/2B hole, one of which was a double past second base. Will you just admit you're full of shit?

I saw him dive and miss a ball, and he just didn't have a handle on getting over to the bag. I'm full of shit about a bunch of stuff, just not this.

No, you didn't, this has been conclusively proven. There were 2 hits and no errors while Kris Bryant was at first. That means there were TWO balls put in play that were not fielded cleanly. We know FROM THE BOX SCORE that neither of those two balls were near first base. Maybe he dove at the double that the box score listed as being a "double to 2B" but the very fact that they listed it as a "double to 2B" would indicate that he was far enough away from it that no box scorer would have reasonably expected ANY first baseman to make a play, let alone a dude making his first ever start there.

You are absolutely full of shit about this.

Also, let's concede that you are right and Bryant fucked up one ball (but actually I am not conceding this at all because you are 100% decidedly, absolutely, conclusively wrong), you're still rendering a judgment about an above-average defensive third baseman's ability to play a competent first base based on one play (that did not fucking happen, we must not lose sight of this) in his FIRST EVER career start at first base. This is as dumb as lying about seeing Kris Bryant fuck up a play at first base and not backing down when proven conclusively wrong.

[Quality Start Machine]

There were 40,000 scouts all groaning as he was flailing at grounders.

If he can handle a ground ball at 3B, he can probably handle a ground ball at 1B. And he got two chances in that game and handled them both, so I'm skeptical that 40,000 people were groaning about it.

+1

Fork saw him play, dammit, and he was the worst defensive first baseman he'd seen since Jimbo Dumbledick managed to throw a ball into left field on a play where they had the runner dead to rights on a pickoff at second back in '68. Fork remembers because he was wearing an onion on his belt that day, which was the style at the time.

He missed a couple fairly easy grounders that didn't go in as chances. But sure, if he gets some reps in during Spring Training he can at least be better than McStiff ever was, so I guess that's OK for spot duty. Zobrist has 17 games in his career there as well. Did not attend any of those.

He played 6 innings at first base in that game, and in those 6 innings Kyle Hendricks gave up 2 hits, one of which was a GB through the SS/2B hole, one of which was a double past second base. Will you just admit you're full of shit?

I saw him dive and miss a ball, and he just didn't have a handle on getting over to the bag. I'm full of shit about a bunch of stuff, just not this.

No, you didn't, this has been conclusively proven. There were 2 hits and no errors while Kris Bryant was at first. That means there were TWO balls put in play that were not fielded cleanly. We know FROM THE BOX SCORE that neither of those two balls were near first base. Maybe he dove at the double that the box score listed as being a "double to 2B" but the very fact that they listed it as a "double to 2B" would indicate that he was far enough away from it that no box scorer would have reasonably expected ANY first baseman to make a play, let alone a dude making his first ever start there.

You are absolutely full of shit about this.

Also, let's concede that you are right and Bryant fucked up one ball (but actually I am not conceding this at all because you are 100% decidedly, absolutely, conclusively wrong), you're still rendering a judgment about an above-average defensive third baseman's ability to play a competent first base based on one play (that did not fucking happen, we must not lose sight of this) in his FIRST EVER career start at first base. This is as dumb as lying about seeing Kris Bryant fuck up a play at first base and not backing down when proven conclusively wrong.

You make it all so easy.

[SKO]

There were 40,000 scouts all groaning as he was flailing at grounders.

If he can handle a ground ball at 3B, he can probably handle a ground ball at 1B. And he got two chances in that game and handled them both, so I'm skeptical that 40,000 people were groaning about it.

+1

Fork saw him play, dammit, and he was the worst defensive first baseman he'd seen since Jimbo Dumbledick managed to throw a ball into left field on a play where they had the runner dead to rights on a pickoff at second back in '68. Fork remembers because he was wearing an onion on his belt that day, which was the style at the time.

He missed a couple fairly easy grounders that didn't go in as chances. But sure, if he gets some reps in during Spring Training he can at least be better than McStiff ever was, so I guess that's OK for spot duty. Zobrist has 17 games in his career there as well. Did not attend any of those.

He played 6 innings at first base in that game, and in those 6 innings Kyle Hendricks gave up 2 hits, one of which was a GB through the SS/2B hole, one of which was a double past second base. Will you just admit you're full of shit?

I saw him dive and miss a ball, and he just didn't have a handle on getting over to the bag. I'm full of shit about a bunch of stuff, just not this.

No, you didn't, this has been conclusively proven. There were 2 hits and no errors while Kris Bryant was at first. That means there were TWO balls put in play that were not fielded cleanly. We know FROM THE BOX SCORE that neither of those two balls were near first base. Maybe he dove at the double that the box score listed as being a "double to 2B" but the very fact that they listed it as a "double to 2B" would indicate that he was far enough away from it that no box scorer would have reasonably expected ANY first baseman to make a play, let alone a dude making his first ever start there.

You are absolutely full of shit about this.

Also, let's concede that you are right and Bryant fucked up one ball (but actually I am not conceding this at all because you are 100% decidedly, absolutely, conclusively wrong), you're still rendering a judgment about an above-average defensive third baseman's ability to play a competent first base based on one play (that did not fucking happen, we must not lose sight of this) in his FIRST EVER career start at first base. This is as dumb as lying about seeing Kris Bryant fuck up a play at first base and not backing down when proven conclusively wrong.

You make it all so easy.

No, you don't get to do this. You were not trolling. You made up some scout Fork bullshit, you got called on it, you dug in, and once decisively proven to be wrong you do not get to go I WAS JUZ JOKEIN JEEZ .

[Oleg]

There were 40,000 scouts all groaning as he was flailing at grounders.

If he can handle a ground ball at 3B, he can probably handle a ground ball at 1B. And he got two chances in that game and handled them both, so I'm skeptical that 40,000 people were groaning about it.

+1

Fork saw him play, dammit, and he was the worst defensive first baseman he'd seen since Jimbo Dumbledick managed to throw a ball into left field on a play where they had the runner dead to rights on a pickoff at second back in '68. Fork remembers because he was wearing an onion on his belt that day, which was the style at the time.

He missed a couple fairly easy grounders that didn't go in as chances. But sure, if he gets some reps in during Spring Training he can at least be better than McStiff ever was, so I guess that's OK for spot duty. Zobrist has 17 games in his career there as well. Did not attend any of those.

He played 6 innings at first base in that game, and in those 6 innings Kyle Hendricks gave up 2 hits, one of which was a GB through the SS/2B hole, one of which was a double past second base. Will you just admit you're full of shit?

I saw him dive and miss a ball, and he just didn't have a handle on getting over to the bag. I'm full of shit about a bunch of stuff, just not this.

No, you didn't, this has been conclusively proven. There were 2 hits and no errors while Kris Bryant was at first. That means there were TWO balls put in play that were not fielded cleanly. We know FROM THE BOX SCORE that neither of those two balls were near first base. Maybe he dove at the double that the box score listed as being a "double to 2B" but the very fact that they listed it as a "double to 2B" would indicate that he was far enough away from it that no box scorer would have reasonably expected ANY first baseman to make a play, let alone a dude making his first ever start there.

You are absolutely full of shit about this.

Also, let's concede that you are right and Bryant fucked up one ball (but actually I am not conceding this at all because you are 100% decidedly, absolutely, conclusively wrong), you're still rendering a judgment about an above-average defensive third baseman's ability to play a competent first base based on one play (that did not fucking happen, we must not lose sight of this) in his FIRST EVER career start at first base. This is as dumb as lying about seeing Kris Bryant fuck up a play at first base and not backing down when proven conclusively wrong.

You make it all so easy.

No, you don't get to do this. You were not trolling. You made up some scout Fork bullshit, you got called on it, you dug in, and once decisively proven to be wrong you do not get to go I WAS JUZ JOKEIN JEEZ .

On the other hand, you do make it easy for him.  I mean, you're not wrong...

[Quality Start Machine]

There were 40,000 scouts all groaning as he was flailing at grounders.

If he can handle a ground ball at 3B, he can probably handle a ground ball at 1B. And he got two chances in that game and handled them both, so I'm skeptical that 40,000 people were groaning about it.

+1

Fork saw him play, dammit, and he was the worst defensive first baseman he'd seen since Jimbo Dumbledick managed to throw a ball into left field on a play where they had the runner dead to rights on a pickoff at second back in '68. Fork remembers because he was wearing an onion on his belt that day, which was the style at the time.

He missed a couple fairly easy grounders that didn't go in as chances. But sure, if he gets some reps in during Spring Training he can at least be better than McStiff ever was, so I guess that's OK for spot duty. Zobrist has 17 games in his career there as well. Did not attend any of those.

He played 6 innings at first base in that game, and in those 6 innings Kyle Hendricks gave up 2 hits, one of which was a GB through the SS/2B hole, one of which was a double past second base. Will you just admit you're full of shit?

I saw him dive and miss a ball, and he just didn't have a handle on getting over to the bag. I'm full of shit about a bunch of stuff, just not this.

No, you didn't, this has been conclusively proven. There were 2 hits and no errors while Kris Bryant was at first. That means there were TWO balls put in play that were not fielded cleanly. We know FROM THE BOX SCORE that neither of those two balls were near first base. Maybe he dove at the double that the box score listed as being a "double to 2B" but the very fact that they listed it as a "double to 2B" would indicate that he was far enough away from it that no box scorer would have reasonably expected ANY first baseman to make a play, let alone a dude making his first ever start there.

You are absolutely full of shit about this.

Also, let's concede that you are right and Bryant fucked up one ball (but actually I am not conceding this at all because you are 100% decidedly, absolutely, conclusively wrong), you're still rendering a judgment about an above-average defensive third baseman's ability to play a competent first base based on one play (that did not fucking happen, we must not lose sight of this) in his FIRST EVER career start at first base. This is as dumb as lying about seeing Kris Bryant fuck up a play at first base and not backing down when proven conclusively wrong.

You make it all so easy.

No, you don't get to do this. You were not trolling. You made up some scout Fork bullshit, you got called on it, you dug in, and once decisively proven to be wrong you do not get to go I WAS JUZ JOKEIN JEEZ .

I've been doing this all fall. The LaStella/Zobrist thing was even a called shot.

[Oleg]

I've been doing this all fall. The LaStella/Zobrist thing was even a called shot.

I don't understand this.  What does LaStaella have to do with it?

[SKO]

If you're going to be intentionally stupid about things to provoke a reaction (and I still think you're mostly just saying that rather than admit you're saying dumb things becuase you believe them), can I recommend reddit or something? Because it's just irritating here.

[CT III]

If you're going to be intentionally stupid about things to provoke a reaction (and I still think you're mostly just saying that rather than admit you're saying dumb things becuase you believe them), can I recommend reddit or something? Because it's just irritating here.

It's my new favorite superhero team:

Time To Post Man and his sidekick Well, Actually Boy

[Quality Start Machine]

If you're going to be intentionally stupid about things to provoke a reaction (and I still think you're mostly just saying that rather than admit you're saying dumb things becuase you believe them), can I recommend reddit or something? Because it's just irritating here.

It's my new favorite superhero team:

Time To Post Man and his sidekick Well, Actually Boy, The Beltless Wonder

[Saul Goodman]

If you're going to be intentionally stupid about things to provoke a reaction (and I still think you're mostly just saying that rather than admit you're saying dumb things becuase you believe them), can I recommend reddit or something? Because it's just irritating here.

It's my new favorite superhero team:

Time To Post Man and his sidekick Well, Actually Boy

While our heroes argue, the evil villain sends David Ross out to play catcher in the top of the first inning.

[Canadouche]

C'MON, YOU GUYS! SPRING TRAINING IS LESS THAN 90 DAYS AWAY!