2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross

[Eli]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

[SKO]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

He's great, he's just over-attached to the prospects. I get it, I like the idea of Jorge Soler a lot, and after spending the last few years envisioning him as a Vlad Guerrero-esque monster in the center of their multiple series winning lineups it's hard to let go of that, but anyone who doesn't think signing Heyward and flipping Soler for Carrasco or whatever would make the Cubs a vastly better team in 2016 is really kidding themselves, and thinking that these things are realistic things the Cubs could actually do to make their team better right now is not exactly being greedy.

[Oleg]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

He's great, he's just over-attached to the prospects. I get it, I like the idea of Jorge Soler a lot, and after spending the last few years envisioning him as a Vlad Guerrero-esque monster in the center of their multiple series winning lineups it's hard to let go of that, but anyone who doesn't think signing Heyward and flipping Soler for Carrasco or whatever would make the Cubs a vastly better team in 2016 is really kidding themselves, and thinking that these things are realistic things the Cubs could actually do to make their team better right now is not exactly being greedy.

Do you two have some sort of secret language like twins?  Who the hell is Stan?

[SKO]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

He's great, he's just over-attached to the prospects. I get it, I like the idea of Jorge Soler a lot, and after spending the last few years envisioning him as a Vlad Guerrero-esque monster in the center of their multiple series winning lineups it's hard to let go of that, but anyone who doesn't think signing Heyward and flipping Soler for Carrasco or whatever would make the Cubs a vastly better team in 2016 is really kidding themselves, and thinking that these things are realistic things the Cubs could actually do to make their team better right now is not exactly being greedy.

Do you two have some sort of secret language like twins?  Who the hell is Stan?

I like to subtweet people on desipio sometimes. Stan is @crewsett on Twitter. He's a good follow but he's pretty consistently in the Fork school of Never Trade Prospects for Anyone camp, and he referred to trading Soler for Carrasco if the Cubs sign Heyward as "getting greedy" and "making moves just to make them." Which is dumb.

[Chuck to Chuck]

Hmm... top of the fourth, Moustakis pulls a sharp line drive over the corner of the bag.  Bryant is fairly tight to the line, and leaves his feet to meet the ball a foot or two into foul territory, but can't glove it and the ball ricochets off into the KC bullpen.  Ruled a hit...

EDIT: For the third out, he fields a bouncing grounder and tosses to Hendricks for the out.  He is otherwise uninvolved in the inning.

That's odd..the box score calls that a double to second base. Either way, doesn't sound like an abysmal play by Bryant by any stretch.

Tonker has left out the audio evidence of 40k fans collectively groaning tho.

It did initially sound like there was a lot of booing, but I actually think it was KC fans shouting "Moooooooos", or something along those lines.

We need a screen shot of the moment Bryant is diving for the ball so we can assess how groanworthy the defensive stab was, like it's the goddamn Zapruder film or something.

Doesn't exactly look like the worst attempt at fielding a sharply hit ball down the line I've seen.

Soriano was worse.

[Quality Start Machine]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

He's great, he's just over-attached to the prospects. I get it, I like the idea of Jorge Soler a lot, and after spending the last few years envisioning him as a Vlad Guerrero-esque monster in the center of their multiple series winning lineups it's hard to let go of that, but anyone who doesn't think signing Heyward and flipping Soler for Carrasco or whatever would make the Cubs a vastly better team in 2016 is really kidding themselves, and thinking that these things are realistic things the Cubs could actually do to make their team better right now is not exactly being greedy.

If the Cubs sign Heyward, they basically just hit the fast-forward button on Soler. Flip Soler for a quality arm and get a serviceable CF. Easy peasy.

[Oleg]

Hmm... top of the fourth, Moustakis pulls a sharp line drive over the corner of the bag.  Bryant is fairly tight to the line, and leaves his feet to meet the ball a foot or two into foul territory, but can't glove it and the ball ricochets off into the KC bullpen.  Ruled a hit...

EDIT: For the third out, he fields a bouncing grounder and tosses to Hendricks for the out.  He is otherwise uninvolved in the inning.

That's odd..the box score calls that a double to second base. Either way, doesn't sound like an abysmal play by Bryant by any stretch.

Tonker has left out the audio evidence of 40k fans collectively groaning tho.

It did initially sound like there was a lot of booing, but I actually think it was KC fans shouting "Moooooooos", or something along those lines.

We need a screen shot of the moment Bryant is diving for the ball so we can assess how groanworthy the defensive stab was, like it's the goddamn Zapruder film or something.

Doesn't exactly look like the worst attempt at fielding a sharply hit ball down the line I've seen.

Soriano was worse.

Considering your no-value Castro just netted a 28-year old, very useful, 2-win pitcher, you should really refrain from being overly critical about anyone at this point.

[SKO]

Hmm... top of the fourth, Moustakis pulls a sharp line drive over the corner of the bag.  Bryant is fairly tight to the line, and leaves his feet to meet the ball a foot or two into foul territory, but can't glove it and the ball ricochets off into the KC bullpen.  Ruled a hit...

EDIT: For the third out, he fields a bouncing grounder and tosses to Hendricks for the out.  He is otherwise uninvolved in the inning.

That's odd..the box score calls that a double to second base. Either way, doesn't sound like an abysmal play by Bryant by any stretch.

Tonker has left out the audio evidence of 40k fans collectively groaning tho.

It did initially sound like there was a lot of booing, but I actually think it was KC fans shouting "Moooooooos", or something along those lines.

We need a screen shot of the moment Bryant is diving for the ball so we can assess how groanworthy the defensive stab was, like it's the goddamn Zapruder film or something.

Doesn't exactly look like the worst attempt at fielding a sharply hit ball down the line I've seen.

Soriano was worse.

Considering your no-value Castro just netted a 28-year old, very useful, 2-win pitcher, you should really refrain from being overly critical about anyone at this point.

Remember when Chuck said the Cubs should trade Castro for James Shields and eat Shield's contract as well.

[Yeti]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

I'm biased, but he's a bitch

[SKO]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

I'm biased, but he's a bitch

They can't all be White Sox Diaries

[PenFoe]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

He's great, he's just over-attached to the prospects. I get it, I like the idea of Jorge Soler a lot, and after spending the last few years envisioning him as a Vlad Guerrero-esque monster in the center of their multiple series winning lineups it's hard to let go of that, but anyone who doesn't think signing Heyward and flipping Soler for Carrasco or whatever would make the Cubs a vastly better team in 2016 is really kidding themselves, and thinking that these things are realistic things the Cubs could actually do to make their team better right now is not exactly being greedy.

Do you two have some sort of secret language like twins?  Who the hell is Stan?

I like to subtweet people on desipio sometimes. Stan is @crewsett on Twitter. He's a good follow but he's pretty consistently in the Fork school of Never Trade Prospects for Anyone camp, and he referred to trading Soler for Carrasco if the Cubs sign Heyward as "getting greedy" and "making moves just to make them." Which is dumb.

That dude blocked Yeti for constantly trolling him. 

He's alright about the Cubs, but he's a pedantic asshat.

[Yeti]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

He's great, he's just over-attached to the prospects. I get it, I like the idea of Jorge Soler a lot, and after spending the last few years envisioning him as a Vlad Guerrero-esque monster in the center of their multiple series winning lineups it's hard to let go of that, but anyone who doesn't think signing Heyward and flipping Soler for Carrasco or whatever would make the Cubs a vastly better team in 2016 is really kidding themselves, and thinking that these things are realistic things the Cubs could actually do to make their team better right now is not exactly being greedy.

Do you two have some sort of secret language like twins?  Who the hell is Stan?

I like to subtweet people on desipio sometimes. Stan is @crewsett on Twitter. He's a good follow but he's pretty consistently in the Fork school of Never Trade Prospects for Anyone camp, and he referred to trading Soler for Carrasco if the Cubs sign Heyward as "getting greedy" and "making moves just to make them." Which is dumb.

That dude blocked Yeti for constantly trolling him. 

He's alright about the Cubs, but he's a pedantic asshat.

He blocked me because he was being cunthair about "You can't used Soler Power for Jorge cause Soler is pronounced Sol-air, not the same way Solar is pronounced"

And then there was the time he said "I'm offended when people mispronounce my last name. Have the respect to ask me how to pronounce it." Get the fuck over yourself, dude.

*note: paraphrased, but still, fuck him

[Yeti]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

He's great, he's just over-attached to the prospects. I get it, I like the idea of Jorge Soler a lot, and after spending the last few years envisioning him as a Vlad Guerrero-esque monster in the center of their multiple series winning lineups it's hard to let go of that, but anyone who doesn't think signing Heyward and flipping Soler for Carrasco or whatever would make the Cubs a vastly better team in 2016 is really kidding themselves, and thinking that these things are realistic things the Cubs could actually do to make their team better right now is not exactly being greedy.

Do you two have some sort of secret language like twins?  Who the hell is Stan?

I like to subtweet people on desipio sometimes. Stan is @crewsett on Twitter. He's a good follow but he's pretty consistently in the Fork school of Never Trade Prospects for Anyone camp, and he referred to trading Soler for Carrasco if the Cubs sign Heyward as "getting greedy" and "making moves just to make them." Which is dumb.

That dude blocked Yeti for constantly trolling him. 

He's alright about the Cubs, but he's a pedantic asshat.

He blocked me because he was being cunthair about "You can't used Soler Power for Jorge cause Soler is pronounced Sol-air, not the same way Solar is pronounced"

And then there was the time he said "I'm offended when people mispronounce my last name. Have the respect to ask me how to pronounce it." Get the fuck over yourself, dude.

*note: paraphrased, but still, fuck him

Me : Crewsett :: Huey : DeRosa

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

I hope the Cubs build a team that is better than this thread.

You're just greedy. This isn't a video game.

I like Stan a lot. I just don't get where he's coming from there though.

He's great, he's just over-attached to the prospects. I get it, I like the idea of Jorge Soler a lot, and after spending the last few years envisioning him as a Vlad Guerrero-esque monster in the center of their multiple series winning lineups it's hard to let go of that, but anyone who doesn't think signing Heyward and flipping Soler for Carrasco or whatever would make the Cubs a vastly better team in 2016 is really kidding themselves, and thinking that these things are realistic things the Cubs could actually do to make their team better right now is not exactly being greedy.

Do you two have some sort of secret language like twins?  Who the hell is Stan?

I like to subtweet people on desipio sometimes. Stan is @crewsett on Twitter. He's a good follow but he's pretty consistently in the Fork school of Never Trade Prospects for Anyone camp, and he referred to trading Soler for Carrasco if the Cubs sign Heyward as "getting greedy" and "making moves just to make them." Which is dumb.

That dude blocked Yeti for constantly trolling him.  

He's alright about the Cubs, but he's a pedantic asshat.

He blocked me because he was being cunthair about "You can't used Soler Power for Jorge cause Soler is pronounced Sol-air, not the same way Solar is pronounced"

And then there was the time he said "I'm offended when people mispronounce my last name. Have the respect to ask me how to pronounce it." Get the fuck over yourself, dude.

*note: paraphrased, but still, fuck him

Me : Crewsett :: Huey : DeRosa

#isupportyeti

He's annoying but then again I'm old and am annoyed by everyone on Twitter eventually.

[Canadouche]

Hmm... top of the fourth, Moustakis pulls a sharp line drive over the corner of the bag.  Bryant is fairly tight to the line, and leaves his feet to meet the ball a foot or two into foul territory, but can't glove it and the ball ricochets off into the KC bullpen.  Ruled a hit...

EDIT: For the third out, he fields a bouncing grounder and tosses to Hendricks for the out.  He is otherwise uninvolved in the inning.

That's odd..the box score calls that a double to second base. Either way, doesn't sound like an abysmal play by Bryant by any stretch.

Tonker has left out the audio evidence of 40k fans collectively groaning tho.

It did initially sound like there was a lot of booing, but I actually think it was KC fans shouting "Moooooooos", or something along those lines.

We need a screen shot of the moment Bryant is diving for the ball so we can assess how groanworthy the defensive stab was, like it's the goddamn Zapruder film or something.

You know, this whole thing has caused me to rethink everything I thought I knew about Fork, and to question the endorsement he made of me a few months ago on these forums. Thank you for the diligence, Tonker. I now recognize that I'm an obnoxious asshole after all.