2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross

[Oleg]

The Cubs have signed Matt Murton to a minor league deal according to the twitter.

Hi Apex

I'm just glad Chuck's kids will finally have their father figure back.

[Oleg]

Just to get away from politics and terrible writing.  Sure, it's not earth-shattering ideas but it's far more interesting that letting Theo walk.

[SKO]

Just to get away from politics and terrible writing.  Sure, it's not earth-shattering ideas but it's far more interesting that letting Theo walk.

I read that article, was glad to see someone nationally highlight that for all of the talk of DA CUBS ONLY WON CUZ OF TANKING (which admittedly played a huge part in acquiring cornerstones like Bryant and Schwarber), the rebuild was only achieved so quickly because Theo and Co. made out like bandits in a number of trades.

[Quality Start Machine]

Just to get away from politics and terrible writing.  Sure, it's not earth-shattering ideas but it's far more interesting that letting Theo walk.

I read that article, was glad to see someone nationally highlight that for all of the talk of DA CUBS ONLY WON CUZ OF TANKING (which admittedly played a huge part in acquiring cornerstones like Bryant and Schwarber), the rebuild was only achieved so quickly because Theo and Co. made out like bandits in a number of trades.

This. It would have been enough robbery if nabbing Strop and Arrieta for Feldman was their only good trade. But seeing all the other trades had me like

[Oleg]

Just to get away from politics and terrible writing.  Sure, it's not earth-shattering ideas but it's far more interesting that letting Theo walk.

I read that article, was glad to see someone nationally highlight that for all of the talk of DA CUBS ONLY WON CUZ OF TANKING (which admittedly played a huge part in acquiring cornerstones like Bryant and Schwarber), the rebuild was only achieved so quickly because Theo and Co. made out like bandits in a number of trades.

To be fair, tanking was also a major reason for the 1-year Feldman deal and trading away Samardzija.  It also allowed them to carry Rondon as a rule V pick on their roster for a whole season.

I guess that's my way of pointing out the obvious, which is tanking is more than just about draft picks.

[SKO]

Just to get away from politics and terrible writing.  Sure, it's not earth-shattering ideas but it's far more interesting that letting Theo walk.

I read that article, was glad to see someone nationally highlight that for all of the talk of DA CUBS ONLY WON CUZ OF TANKING (which admittedly played a huge part in acquiring cornerstones like Bryant and Schwarber), the rebuild was only achieved so quickly because Theo and Co. made out like bandits in a number of trades.

To be fair, tanking was also a major reason for the 1-year Feldman deal and trading away Samardzija.  It also allowed them to carry Rondon as a rule V pick on their roster for a whole season.

I guess that's my way of pointing out the obvious, which is tanking is more than just about draft picks.

Right, I obviously wasn't arguing with the fact that the Cubs tanked, it was the idea that tanking is somehow easy or that it's as simple as "1. Lose a lot of games 2. Draft in the top 5 3. Winz", which a lot of Theo critics like to say it is. They still had to get those picks right AND pull of an a ridiculous amount of successful trades to build this team.

[Quality Start Machine]

Just to get away from politics and terrible writing.  Sure, it's not earth-shattering ideas but it's far more interesting that letting Theo walk.

I read that article, was glad to see someone nationally highlight that for all of the talk of DA CUBS ONLY WON CUZ OF TANKING (which admittedly played a huge part in acquiring cornerstones like Bryant and Schwarber), the rebuild was only achieved so quickly because Theo and Co. made out like bandits in a number of trades.

To be fair, tanking was also a major reason for the 1-year Feldman deal and trading away Samardzija.  It also allowed them to carry Rondon as a rule V pick on their roster for a whole season.

I guess that's my way of pointing out the obvious, which is tanking is more than just about draft picks.

Right, I obviously wasn't arguing with the fact that the Cubs tanked, it was the idea that tanking is somehow easy or that it's as simple as "1. Lose a lot of games 2. Draft in the top 5 3. Winz", which a lot of Theo critics like to say it is. They still had to get those picks right AND pull of an a ridiculous amount of successful trades to build this team.

And even with the picks they had, they managed to be pretty damn smart...picking Schwarber at #4 when nobody else had him in their top 10 is a good example.

Oh, and let's not forget their diving into the pool of international FAs.

[InternetApex]

The Cubs have signed Matt Murton to a minor league deal according to the twitter.

Hi Apex

I hate this team.

[InternetApex]

DPD.

If Murton makes the big club or just languishes at AAA just in case, I don't really have an opinion about it. Time has passed. He's not a prospect or someone the front office or fans are pushing for an everyday spot in lieu of an upgrade. Replacement Level Murton is not a threat to my sanity. That battle is over. I won lost.

[PenFoe]

DPD.

If Murton makes the big club or just languishes at AAA just in case, I don't really have an opinion about it. Time has passed. He's not a prospect or someone the front office or fans are pushing for an everyday spot in lieu of an upgrade. Replacement Level Murton is not a threat to my sanity. That battle is over. I won lost.

[SKO]

DPD.

If Murton makes the big club or just languishes at AAA just in case, I don't really have an opinion about it. Time has passed. He's not a prospect or someone the front office or fans are pushing for an everyday spot in lieu of an upgrade. Replacement Level Murton is not a threat to my sanity. That battle is over. I won lost.

I really cannot imagine how wrong things would have to go before Murton could actually make the team. He's a right handed corner only outfielder who probably can't hit anymore. My guess is Theo brought him in for shits and giggles and to be a coach to the young'ns about how to make more contact or something.

I mean I would assume they would go to Coghlan, try Baez or Bryant in a corner, move Zobrist to left, and try Mack Seizure before they'd even consider using Murton for anything.

[Saul Goodman]

DPD.

If Murton makes the big club or just languishes at AAA just in case, I don't really have an opinion about it. Time has passed. He's not a prospect or someone the front office or fans are pushing for an everyday spot in lieu of an upgrade. Replacement Level Murton is not a threat to my sanity. That battle is over. I won lost.

I really cannot imagine how wrong things would have to go before Murton could actually make the team. He's a right handed corner only outfielder who probably can't hit anymore. My guess is Theo brought him in for shits and giggles and to be a coach to the young'ns about how to make more contact or something.

I mean I would assume they would go to Coghlan, try Baez or Bryant in a corner, move Zobrist to left, and try Mack Seizure before they'd even consider using Murton for anything.

Theo is just taking BP Wrigleyville's advice. He's going to cut Heyward at the end of spring training because turnover is good and start Murton out there.

[Eli]

DPD.

If Murton makes the big club or just languishes at AAA just in case, I don't really have an opinion about it. Time has passed. He's not a prospect or someone the front office or fans are pushing for an everyday spot in lieu of an upgrade. Replacement Level Murton is not a threat to my sanity. That battle is over. I won lost.

He's going to take Soler's job and you're in denial.

[Quality Start Machine]

Seriously,  it doesn't look like there's any better option for that Iowa LF spot than Murton.

[PenFoe]

Seriously,  it doesn't look like there's any better option for that Iowa LF spot than Murton.

Andreoli was pretty decent there last year.

He's not much of a prospect, but he's *only* 25. 

Makes more sense than Murton.