2015 Cubs Offseason: Building a Winner Around David Ross

[Eli]

Cool, I'd like to read it. I mean it's a fun thought exercise and the statistical arguments for it are sound, I just don't know what it would take to get the players to go for it, when Zack Greinke is getting 195 million and Darren O'Day is getting 31 million you're not going to be able to convince too many guys who view themselves as starters to accept that role.

Well, you wouldn't do it with guys like Greinke. You do it with a handful of 'tweener guys who would be bouncing between mid-long relief and spot start duty anyway (and probably paid accordingly).

But you're right in that there would need to be a  ...

paradigm shift
... in how compensation is structured to get many guys to buy in. You might be able to get by with lower quality pitchers in doing so. Since you're planning on pulling them in the 3rd from their "starts" they don't need to keep anything in the tank for the 4th-6th innings. Because: market inefficiency!

I lol'd hard at the paradigm shift. Fantastic.

I laughed, too, even though I don't know what a paradigm shift is and would need someone to explain it to me.

[SKO]

Cool, I'd like to read it. I mean it's a fun thought exercise and the statistical arguments for it are sound, I just don't know what it would take to get the players to go for it, when Zack Greinke is getting 195 million and Darren O'Day is getting 31 million you're not going to be able to convince too many guys who view themselves as starters to accept that role.

Well, you wouldn't do it with guys like Greinke. You do it with a handful of 'tweener guys who would be bouncing between mid-long relief and spot start duty anyway (and probably paid accordingly).

But you're right in that there would need to be a  ...

paradigm shift
... in how compensation is structured to get many guys to buy in. You might be able to get by with lower quality pitchers in doing so. Since you're planning on pulling them in the 3rd from their "starts" they don't need to keep anything in the tank for the 4th-6th innings. Because: market inefficiency!

I lol'd hard at the paradigm shift. Fantastic.

I laughed, too, even though I don't know what a paradigm shift is and would need someone to explain it to me.

It's something to do with Transformational Leadership, I hear tell.

[PenFoe]

Cool, I'd like to read it. I mean it's a fun thought exercise and the statistical arguments for it are sound, I just don't know what it would take to get the players to go for it, when Zack Greinke is getting 195 million and Darren O'Day is getting 31 million you're not going to be able to convince too many guys who view themselves as starters to accept that role.

Well, you wouldn't do it with guys like Greinke. You do it with a handful of 'tweener guys who would be bouncing between mid-long relief and spot start duty anyway (and probably paid accordingly).

But you're right in that there would need to be a  ...

paradigm shift
... in how compensation is structured to get many guys to buy in. You might be able to get by with lower quality pitchers in doing so. Since you're planning on pulling them in the 3rd from their "starts" they don't need to keep anything in the tank for the 4th-6th innings. Because: market inefficiency!

I lol'd hard at the paradigm shift. Fantastic.

I laughed, too, even though I don't know what a paradigm shift is and would need someone to explain it to me.

It's something to do with Transformational Leadership, I hear tell.

This is what Wikipedia is for.

[CT III]

Cool, I'd like to read it. I mean it's a fun thought exercise and the statistical arguments for it are sound, I just don't know what it would take to get the players to go for it, when Zack Greinke is getting 195 million and Darren O'Day is getting 31 million you're not going to be able to convince too many guys who view themselves as starters to accept that role.

Well, you wouldn't do it with guys like Greinke. You do it with a handful of 'tweener guys who would be bouncing between mid-long relief and spot start duty anyway (and probably paid accordingly).

But you're right in that there would need to be a  ...

paradigm shift
... in how compensation is structured to get many guys to buy in. You might be able to get by with lower quality pitchers in doing so. Since you're planning on pulling them in the 3rd from their "starts" they don't need to keep anything in the tank for the 4th-6th innings. Because: market inefficiency!

I lol'd hard at the paradigm shift. Fantastic.

I laughed, too, even though I don't know what a paradigm shift is and would need someone to explain it to me.

It's a scientific term that American business gurus (particularly in marketing, I'm sure Pen's shifted a few paradigms in his day) got hold of in the early 90's and has now pretty much been rendered meaningless.

[SKO]

Cool, I'd like to read it. I mean it's a fun thought exercise and the statistical arguments for it are sound, I just don't know what it would take to get the players to go for it, when Zack Greinke is getting 195 million and Darren O'Day is getting 31 million you're not going to be able to convince too many guys who view themselves as starters to accept that role.

Well, you wouldn't do it with guys like Greinke. You do it with a handful of 'tweener guys who would be bouncing between mid-long relief and spot start duty anyway (and probably paid accordingly).

But you're right in that there would need to be a  ...

paradigm shift
... in how compensation is structured to get many guys to buy in. You might be able to get by with lower quality pitchers in doing so. Since you're planning on pulling them in the 3rd from their "starts" they don't need to keep anything in the tank for the 4th-6th innings. Because: market inefficiency!

I lol'd hard at the paradigm shift. Fantastic.

I laughed, too, even though I don't know what a paradigm shift is and would need someone to explain it to me.

It's a scientific term that American business gurus (particularly in marketing, I'm sure Pen's shifted a few paradigms in his day) got hold of in the early 90's and has now pretty much been rendered meaningless.

Eli was referring to the BP Wrigleyville article where the guy said we didn't like their shitty new articles because they were leading a paradigm shift in sabermetrics, and after saying he didn't want to insult anyone's intelligence he spent three paragraphs condescendingly explaining paradigm shifts

[PenFoe]

Cool, I'd like to read it. I mean it's a fun thought exercise and the statistical arguments for it are sound, I just don't know what it would take to get the players to go for it, when Zack Greinke is getting 195 million and Darren O'Day is getting 31 million you're not going to be able to convince too many guys who view themselves as starters to accept that role.

Well, you wouldn't do it with guys like Greinke. You do it with a handful of 'tweener guys who would be bouncing between mid-long relief and spot start duty anyway (and probably paid accordingly).

But you're right in that there would need to be a  ...

paradigm shift
... in how compensation is structured to get many guys to buy in. You might be able to get by with lower quality pitchers in doing so. Since you're planning on pulling them in the 3rd from their "starts" they don't need to keep anything in the tank for the 4th-6th innings. Because: market inefficiency!

I lol'd hard at the paradigm shift. Fantastic.

I laughed, too, even though I don't know what a paradigm shift is and would need someone to explain it to me.

It's a scientific term that American business gurus (particularly in marketing, I'm sure Pen's shifted a few paradigms in his day) got hold of in the early 90's and has now pretty much been rendered meaningless.

Eli was referring to the BP Wrigleyville article where the guy said we didn't like their shitty new articles because they were leading a paradigm shift in sabermetrics, and after saying he didn't want to insult anyone's intelligence he spent three paragraphs condescendingly explaining paradigm shifts

CT is right though. I have made paradigms weep from how I've transformed them.

[Eli]

Cool, I'd like to read it. I mean it's a fun thought exercise and the statistical arguments for it are sound, I just don't know what it would take to get the players to go for it, when Zack Greinke is getting 195 million and Darren O'Day is getting 31 million you're not going to be able to convince too many guys who view themselves as starters to accept that role.

Well, you wouldn't do it with guys like Greinke. You do it with a handful of 'tweener guys who would be bouncing between mid-long relief and spot start duty anyway (and probably paid accordingly).

But you're right in that there would need to be a  ...

paradigm shift
... in how compensation is structured to get many guys to buy in. You might be able to get by with lower quality pitchers in doing so. Since you're planning on pulling them in the 3rd from their "starts" they don't need to keep anything in the tank for the 4th-6th innings. Because: market inefficiency!

I lol'd hard at the paradigm shift. Fantastic.

I laughed, too, even though I don't know what a paradigm shift is and would need someone to explain it to me.

It's a scientific term that American business gurus (particularly in marketing, I'm sure Pen's shifted a few paradigms in his day) got hold of in the early 90's and has now pretty much been rendered meaningless.

Eli was referring to the BP Wrigleyville article where the guy said we didn't like their shitty new articles because they were leading a paradigm shift in sabermetrics, and after saying he didn't want to insult anyone's intelligence he spent three paragraphs condescendingly explaining paradigm shifts

Time for a paradigm shift in synergistic nuance, I guess.

[CBStew]

Cool, I'd like to read it. I mean it's a fun thought exercise and the statistical arguments for it are sound, I just don't know what it would take to get the players to go for it, when Zack Greinke is getting 195 million and Darren O'Day is getting 31 million you're not going to be able to convince too many guys who view themselves as starters to accept that role.

Well, you wouldn't do it with guys like Greinke. You do it with a handful of 'tweener guys who would be bouncing between mid-long relief and spot start duty anyway (and probably paid accordingly).

But you're right in that there would need to be a  ...

paradigm shift
... in how compensation is structured to get many guys to buy in. You might be able to get by with lower quality pitchers in doing so. Since you're planning on pulling them in the 3rd from their "starts" they don't need to keep anything in the tank for the 4th-6th innings. Because: market inefficiency!

I lol'd hard at the paradigm shift. Fantastic.

I laughed, too, even though I don't know what a paradigm shift is and would need someone to explain it to me.

It's a scientific term that American business gurus (particularly in marketing, I'm sure Pen's shifted a few paradigms in his day) got hold of in the early 90's and has now pretty much been rendered meaningless.

Eli was referring to the BP Wrigleyville article where the guy said we didn't like their shitty new articles because they were leading a paradigm shift in sabermetrics, and after saying he didn't want to insult anyone's intelligence he spent three paragraphs condescendingly explaining paradigm shifts

Time for a paradigm shift in synergistic nuance, I guess.

The paradigm shift originated in college football in the early 1920s.  It was designed to fool the opposition with a "hidden ball" stunt.  While the attention of the defensive backfield was focused on the backfield of the offense, typically in what was called a "T-formation",  watching the player who was farthest back,  known as the "fullback"  (why he was called that is unknown since all of the players on the offense were usually of sound body, if not sound mind), who if not carefully observed would often switch jerseys with the player immediately to his right, thus causing great consternation in the rooting section who were want to chant "give the ball to number 14" while the cheerleaders turned cartwheels and occasionally dispensed poor boy sandwiches to fans in the front rows.  In any event, while this was going on, the center slyly paradigm shifted the ball to the lineman to his left.  Since this was before the rules changed, the latter was then free to "lateral" (so called because it is a pass that must be thrown while lying on one's side) to one of the cheerleaders, now referred to as a "designated 12th man".  Football in the 1920s was infinitely more interesting than it is today. 

[flannj]

Cool, I'd like to read it. I mean it's a fun thought exercise and the statistical arguments for it are sound, I just don't know what it would take to get the players to go for it, when Zack Greinke is getting 195 million and Darren O'Day is getting 31 million you're not going to be able to convince too many guys who view themselves as starters to accept that role.

Well, you wouldn't do it with guys like Greinke. You do it with a handful of 'tweener guys who would be bouncing between mid-long relief and spot start duty anyway (and probably paid accordingly).

But you're right in that there would need to be a  ...

paradigm shift
... in how compensation is structured to get many guys to buy in. You might be able to get by with lower quality pitchers in doing so. Since you're planning on pulling them in the 3rd from their "starts" they don't need to keep anything in the tank for the 4th-6th innings. Because: market inefficiency!

I lol'd hard at the paradigm shift. Fantastic.

I laughed, too, even though I don't know what a paradigm shift is and would need someone to explain it to me.

It's a scientific term that American business gurus (particularly in marketing, I'm sure Pen's shifted a few paradigms in his day) got hold of in the early 90's and has now pretty much been rendered meaningless.

Eli was referring to the BP Wrigleyville article where the guy said we didn't like their shitty new articles because they were leading a paradigm shift in sabermetrics, and after saying he didn't want to insult anyone's intelligence he spent three paragraphs condescendingly explaining paradigm shifts

Time for a paradigm shift in synergistic nuance, I guess.

The paradigm shift originated in college football in the early 1920s.  It was designed to fool the opposition with a "hidden ball" stunt.  While the attention of the defensive backfield was focused on the backfield of the offense, typically in what was called a "T-formation",  watching the player who was farthest back,  known as the "fullback"  (why he was called that is unknown since all of the players on the offense were usually of sound body, if not sound mind), who if not carefully observed would often switch jerseys with the player immediately to his right, thus causing great consternation in the rooting section who were want to chant "give the ball to number 14" while the cheerleaders turned cartwheels and occasionally dispensed poor boy sandwiches to fans in the front rows.  In any event, while this was going on, the center slyly paradigm shifted the ball to the lineman to his left.  Since this was before the rules changed, the latter was then free to "lateral" (so called because it is a pass that must be thrown while lying on one's side) to one of the cheerleaders, now referred to as a "designated 12th man".  Football in the 1920s was infinitely more interesting than it is today. 

Godamnit Stew, I have to meet you someday.

[Chuck to Chuck]

Cool, I'd like to read it. I mean it's a fun thought exercise and the statistical arguments for it are sound, I just don't know what it would take to get the players to go for it, when Zack Greinke is getting 195 million and Darren O'Day is getting 31 million you're not going to be able to convince too many guys who view themselves as starters to accept that role.

Well, you wouldn't do it with guys like Greinke. You do it with a handful of 'tweener guys who would be bouncing between mid-long relief and spot start duty anyway (and probably paid accordingly).

But you're right in that there would need to be a  ...

paradigm shift
... in how compensation is structured to get many guys to buy in. You might be able to get by with lower quality pitchers in doing so. Since you're planning on pulling them in the 3rd from their "starts" they don't need to keep anything in the tank for the 4th-6th innings. Because: market inefficiency!

I lol'd hard at the paradigm shift. Fantastic.

I laughed, too, even though I don't know what a paradigm shift is and would need someone to explain it to me.

It's a scientific term that American business gurus (particularly in marketing, I'm sure Pen's shifted a few paradigms in his day) got hold of in the early 90's and has now pretty much been rendered meaningless.

Eli was referring to the BP Wrigleyville article where the guy said we didn't like their shitty new articles because they were leading a paradigm shift in sabermetrics, and after saying he didn't want to insult anyone's intelligence he spent three paragraphs condescendingly explaining paradigm shifts

Time for a paradigm shift in synergistic nuance, I guess.

The paradigm shift originated in college football in the early 1920s.  It was designed to fool the opposition with a "hidden ball" stunt.  While the attention of the defensive backfield was focused on the backfield of the offense, typically in what was called a "T-formation",  watching the player who was farthest back,  known as the "fullback"  (why he was called that is unknown since all of the players on the offense were usually of sound body, if not sound mind), who if not carefully observed would often switch jerseys with the player immediately to his right, thus causing great consternation in the rooting section who were want to chant "give the ball to number 14" while the cheerleaders turned cartwheels and occasionally dispensed poor boy sandwiches to fans in the front rows.  In any event, while this was going on, the center slyly paradigm shifted the ball to the lineman to his left.  Since this was before the rules changed, the latter was then free to "lateral" (so called because it is a pass that must be thrown while lying on one's side) to one of the cheerleaders, now referred to as a "designated 12th man".  Football in the 1920s was infinitely more interesting than it is today. 

Godamnit Stew, I have to meet you someday.

I thought a paradigm was the change from two cups of coffee old Jewish guys fought over.

[PenFoe]

DPD.

If Murton makes the big club or just languishes at AAA just in case, I don't really have an opinion about it. Time has passed. He's not a prospect or someone the front office or fans are pushing for an everyday spot in lieu of an upgrade. Replacement Level Murton is not a threat to my sanity. That battle is over. I won lost.

[Powdered Toast Man]

I wonder what Moonlight Greenberg is up to.

[PenFoe]

I wonder what Moonlight Greenberg is up to.

He is co-founder and CEO of this stuff, and he recently had a baby boy named Leo Henry.

You can hire him to speak.



"Holds the record" is a hilarious way to describe his career.

[CT III]

I wonder what Moonlight Greenberg is up to.

He is co-founder and CEO of this stuff, and he recently had a baby boy named Leo Henry.

You can hire him to speak.



"Holds the record" is a hilarious way to describe his career.

You buried the lede: DESSERT WILL BE SERVED

[PenFoe]

I wonder what Moonlight Greenberg is up to.

He is co-founder and CEO of this stuff, and he recently had a baby boy named Leo Henry.

You can hire him to speak.



"Holds the record" is a hilarious way to describe his career.

You buried the lede: DESSERT WILL BE SERVED

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