The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE

[InternetApex]

Sorry to give you more work, but how about the '86 Cokeheads?

Through 30:  
1986 Mets      147     96      51    22-8

And just for fun, if Buckner didn't fuck up...god damn baseball. It's so hard.

He was supposed to fuck up in 1984, but the Cubs traded him away, so Leon Durham fucked up instead. So that grounder followed Buckner for 2 more years.

There are photos showing that he wore a Cubs' batting glove under his mitt in that game. So, yes... he was as cursed a ballplayer as ever there was.

http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/061018

[PenFoe]

Sorry to give you more work, but how about the '86 Cokeheads?

Through 30:  
1986 Mets      147     96      51    22-8

And just for fun, if Buckner didn't fuck up...god damn baseball. It's so hard.

He was supposed to fuck up in 1984, but the Cubs traded him away, so Leon Durham fucked up instead. So that grounder followed Buckner for 2 more years.

There are photos showing that he wore a Cubs' batting glove under his mitt in that game. So, yes... he was as cursed a ballplayer as ever there was.

http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/061018

I think I've mentioned before that my old college roommate works for MLB Network, but I was texting him the table (because he's a Mets fan and fuck him) and they got their guys on it.  

The 2016 Cubs have the highest run differential through 30 games in the World Series Era. Here's the top 4.

[Quality Start Machine]

Sorry to give you more work, but how about the '86 Cokeheads?

Through 30:  
1986 Mets      147     96      51    22-8

And just for fun, if Buckner didn't fuck up...god damn baseball. It's so hard.

He was supposed to fuck up in 1984, but the Cubs traded him away, so Leon Durham fucked up instead. So that grounder followed Buckner for 2 more years.

There are photos showing that he wore a Cubs' batting glove under his mitt in that game. So, yes... he was as cursed a ballplayer as ever there was.

http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=lukas/061018

I think I've mentioned before that my old college roommate works for MLB Network, but I was texting him the table (because he's a Mets fan and fuck him) and they got their guys on it.  

The 2016 Cubs have the highest run differential through 30 games in the World Series Era. Here's the top 4.

do you ask him for coaching advice?

[Brownie]

Tanner Roe-Wark (Copyright, Ron Coomer) is feeling the butthurt about the Cubs walking Harper: "I think it's scared baseball."

Did the pilot captaining the Nationals team plane rely on modern instruments to land it in Washington last night? Come on, Charles Lindbergh didn't need any help. I hope Roark insisted on flying old school. #scaredliving

[Brownie]

DPD, the 1939 Yankees are an interesting case as they started 5-3, so they would up winning 23 of their next 26 games to get to 28-6. At 5-3, they also lost a guy whose .932 OPS in 1938 was the second highest on the team, but his lowest since 1925. That's how the Yankees responded to Lou Gehrig retiring from Lou Gehrig Disease?

[Saul Goodman]

Just got an MLB alert that Strasburg and the Nationals have agreed on a 7-year, $175MM extension. With him off the market does this change anything in the Arrieta negotiations/non-negotiations for the Cubs? I wonder if Strasburg might have been a top target for Theo and Jed. Obviously it doesn't make Jake any younger, but maybe they'd be more willing to come closer to the number of years he wants now.

[Quality Start Machine]

Just got an MLB alert that Strasburg and the Nationals have agreed on a 7-year, $175MM extension. With him off the market does this change anything in the Arrieta negotiations/non-negotiations for the Cubs? I wonder if Strasburg might have been a top target for Theo and Jed. Obviously it doesn't make Jake any younger, but maybe they'd be more willing to come closer to the number of years he wants now.

Not sure Jed & Theo would ever go long and heavy on any starting pitcher that has Dusty's fingerprints on him.

But I can't imagine Boras not wanting to test the open market.

[SKO]

Just got an MLB alert that Strasburg and the Nationals have agreed on a 7-year, $175MM extension. With him off the market does this change anything in the Arrieta negotiations/non-negotiations for the Cubs? I wonder if Strasburg might have been a top target for Theo and Jed. Obviously it doesn't make Jake any younger, but maybe they'd be more willing to come closer to the number of years he wants now.

Not sure Jed & Theo would ever go long and heavy on any starting pitcher that has Dusty's fingerprints on him.

But I can't imagine Boras not wanting to test the open market.

This is funny because Strasburg is a Boras client.

[Slaky]

Just got an MLB alert that Strasburg and the Nationals have agreed on a 7-year, $175MM extension. With him off the market does this change anything in the Arrieta negotiations/non-negotiations for the Cubs? I wonder if Strasburg might have been a top target for Theo and Jed. Obviously it doesn't make Jake any younger, but maybe they'd be more willing to come closer to the number of years he wants now.

Not sure Jed & Theo would ever go long and heavy on any starting pitcher that has Dusty's fingerprints on him.

But I can't imagine Boras not wanting to test the open market.

This is funny because Strasburg is a Boras client.

Also Dusty's been Straburg's manager for a couple of months

[Quality Start Machine]

Just got an MLB alert that Strasburg and the Nationals have agreed on a 7-year, $175MM extension. With him off the market does this change anything in the Arrieta negotiations/non-negotiations for the Cubs? I wonder if Strasburg might have been a top target for Theo and Jed. Obviously it doesn't make Jake any younger, but maybe they'd be more willing to come closer to the number of years he wants now.

Not sure Jed & Theo would ever go long and heavy on any starting pitcher that has Dusty's fingerprints on him.

But I can't imagine Boras not wanting to test the open market.

This is funny because Strasburg is a Boras client.

Yeah, but do you think Jake doesn't get at least 7/210 on the open market? That's a pretty big jump from Strasburg's deal.

[SKO]

Just got an MLB alert that Strasburg and the Nationals have agreed on a 7-year, $175MM extension. With him off the market does this change anything in the Arrieta negotiations/non-negotiations for the Cubs? I wonder if Strasburg might have been a top target for Theo and Jed. Obviously it doesn't make Jake any younger, but maybe they'd be more willing to come closer to the number of years he wants now.

Not sure Jed & Theo would ever go long and heavy on any starting pitcher that has Dusty's fingerprints on him.

But I can't imagine Boras not wanting to test the open market.

This is funny because Strasburg is a Boras client.

Yeah, but do you think Jake doesn't get at least 7/210 on the open market? That's a pretty big jump from Strasburg's deal.

Depends. Both have their knocks. Strasburg is younger than Arrieta, he's also had TJS. Arrieta is potentially less of an injury risk but then he's also going to be on the wrong side of 30 and has had only one full season.

[Canadouche]

So, how much money should the Cubs spend on Arrieta?

It's not my money, except for the cash they collect in jersey, ticket, and concession purchases, but I wouldn't have a problem with Arrieta receiving a similar length and similar, if not slightly more, pay.

[Eli]

So, how much money should the Cubs spend on Arrieta?

It's not my money, except for the cash they collect in jersey, ticket, and concession purchases, but I wouldn't have a problem with Arrieta receiving a similar length and similar, if not slightly more, pay.

I'd be fine extending him until he's 35 or so. Not so excited to get into his later 30s with a huge contract.

On the other hand, for as awesome as the whole organization has become, the minor leagues are still pretty barren in terms of pitching talent. I don't know that there are more than 2-3 guys who have a reasonable shot at sticking in a rotation long-term. That might make them more eager to keep Arrieta around.

[Quality Start Machine]

So, how much money should the Cubs spend on Arrieta?

It's not my money, except for the cash they collect in jersey, ticket, and concession purchases, but I wouldn't have a problem with Arrieta receiving a similar length and similar, if not slightly more, pay.

I'd be fine extending him until he's 35 or so. Not so excited to get into his later 30s with a huge contract.

On the other hand, for as awesome as the whole organization has become, the minor leagues are still pretty barren in terms of pitching talent. I don't know that there are more than 2-3 guys who have a reasonable shot at sticking in a rotation long-term. That might make them more eager to keep Arrieta around.

Besides, Jake will probably want an opt-out thrown in there somewhere, so age might not be that big a factor.

[Oleg]

Just got an MLB alert that Strasburg and the Nationals have agreed on a 7-year, $175MM extension. With him off the market does this change anything in the Arrieta negotiations/non-negotiations for the Cubs? I wonder if Strasburg might have been a top target for Theo and Jed. Obviously it doesn't make Jake any younger, but maybe they'd be more willing to come closer to the number of years he wants now.

Not sure Jed & Theo would ever go long and heavy on any starting pitcher that has Dusty's fingerprints on him.

But I can't imagine Boras not wanting to test the open market.

This is funny because Strasburg is a Boras client.

Yeah, but do you think Jake doesn't get at least 7/210 on the open market? That's a pretty big jump from Strasburg's deal.

Depends. Both have their knocks. Strasburg is younger than Arrieta, he's also had TJS. Arrieta is potentially less of an injury risk but then he's also going to be on the wrong side of 30 and has had only one full season.

I have no idea what the motivation is for Strasburg to sign that deal a mere 4 months ahead of free agency.  That seems weird.  But, he has two opt outs including the first one after his age-31 season, or the age Arrieta will be when he hits free agency.  I have no idea how the contract is structured but, assuming he rakes in a cool 75 mil and has the opportunity to hit free agency again at 31?  If Arrieta is good for 7/210, would Strasburg come close?  So, that would make it a 10-year/$285mm in earnings.  I don't think Arrieta is getting anywhere near that.

I guess, in other words, this is probably a bad comp for the Arrieta negotiations.