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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #480 on: June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM »
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

SKO

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #481 on: June 14, 2016, 01:28:42 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Agreed, I just don't know how much stock to put into Buster Olney's report that the Yankees basically aren't motivated to move him yet unless the return is that stupid. If we're talking Gleyber Torres or something, sign me up I guess.
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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #482 on: June 14, 2016, 01:34:07 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Contreras?
Torres?
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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #483 on: June 14, 2016, 01:37:54 PM »
Quote from: PANK! on June 14, 2016, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Contreras?
Torres?

I don't know if Jepstink believe in such a thing as "untouchable" players, but I'd have to believe if they do that Contreras is on the list.
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SKO

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #484 on: June 14, 2016, 01:38:09 PM »
Quote from: PANK! on June 14, 2016, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Contreras?
Torres?

I think we can stop discussing Contreras as a trade piece, he sure seems to be the catcher of the future, I don't think he's going anywhere.
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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #485 on: June 14, 2016, 01:46:18 PM »
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 01:28:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Agreed, I just don't know how much stock to put into Buster Olney's report that the Yankees basically aren't motivated to move him yet unless the return is that stupid. If we're talking Gleyber Torres or something, sign me up I guess.

They love Dan Vogelbach... Or at least I'd like to think they do

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #486 on: June 14, 2016, 01:50:30 PM »
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 01:38:09 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 14, 2016, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Contreras?
Torres?

I think we can stop discussing Contreras as a trade piece, he sure seems to be the catcher of the future, I don't think he's going anywhere.

I also firmly believe that as long as Theo is here they'll never trade Schwarber. Not for anyone or anything. Just one man's opinion.

SKO

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #487 on: June 14, 2016, 01:53:29 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on June 14, 2016, 01:50:30 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 01:38:09 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 14, 2016, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Contreras?
Torres?

I think we can stop discussing Contreras as a trade piece, he sure seems to be the catcher of the future, I don't think he's going anywhere.

I also firmly believe that as long as Theo is here they'll never trade Schwarber. Not for anyone or anything. Just one man's opinion.

Sahadev and Kaplan both have said there's no fucking way Schwarber gets moved. I'd trust those two over literally anyone on a subject like that.
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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #488 on: June 14, 2016, 01:55:52 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2016, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 01:28:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Agreed, I just don't know how much stock to put into Buster Olney's report that the Yankees basically aren't motivated to move him yet unless the return is that stupid. If we're talking Gleyber Torres or something, sign me up I guess.

They love Dan Vogelbach... Or at least I'd like to think they do

They have to love him more than they love Rob Refsnyder.
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SKO

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #489 on: June 14, 2016, 02:01:01 PM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 14, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2016, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 01:28:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA.  

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Agreed, I just don't know how much stock to put into Buster Olney's report that the Yankees basically aren't motivated to move him yet unless the return is that stupid. If we're talking Gleyber Torres or something, sign me up I guess.

They love Dan Vogelbach... Or at least I'd like to think they do

They have to love him more than they love Rob Refsnyder.

Actually they'd have to love him more than Greg Bird, their top first base prospect who put up an .871 OPS last year. I'm surprised you were unaware of this given your deep knowledge of the Yankee farm system and exactly what they are looking for in terms of their trade packages.
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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #490 on: June 14, 2016, 02:04:47 PM »
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 14, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2016, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 01:28:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA.  

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Agreed, I just don't know how much stock to put into Buster Olney's report that the Yankees basically aren't motivated to move him yet unless the return is that stupid. If we're talking Gleyber Torres or something, sign me up I guess.

They love Dan Vogelbach... Or at least I'd like to think they do

They have to love him more than they love Rob Refsnyder.

Actually they'd have to love him more than Greg Bird, their top first base prospect who put up an .871 OPS last year. I'm surprised you were unaware of this given your deep knowledge of the Yankee farm system and exactly what they are looking for in terms of their trade packages.


Eli

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #491 on: June 14, 2016, 02:26:53 PM »
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 01:38:09 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 14, 2016, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Contreras?
Torres?

I think we can stop discussing Contreras as a trade piece, he sure seems to be the catcher of the future, I don't think he's going anywhere.

Yeah, I basically just look at him as a major-league piece at this point since he'll probably be up this year.

SKO

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #492 on: June 14, 2016, 02:28:01 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 01:38:09 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 14, 2016, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Contreras?
Torres?

I think we can stop discussing Contreras as a trade piece, he sure seems to be the catcher of the future, I don't think he's going anywhere.

Yeah, I basically just look at him as a major-league piece at this point since he'll probably be up this year.

I always figured he was a September 1st call up but the scuttlebutt now seems to be All Star Break.
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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #493 on: June 14, 2016, 02:37:19 PM »
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 02:28:01 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 02:26:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 01:38:09 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 14, 2016, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA. 

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Contreras?
Torres?

I think we can stop discussing Contreras as a trade piece, he sure seems to be the catcher of the future, I don't think he's going anywhere.

Yeah, I basically just look at him as a major-league piece at this point since he'll probably be up this year.

I always figured he was a September 1st call up but the scuttlebutt now seems to be All Star Break.

Seems they may well call him up for any remaining interleague games in AL parks (Sox and...?) for the extra bat like they did for Schwarber last year.
Just a sloppy, undisciplined team.  Garbage.

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #494 on: June 14, 2016, 03:09:22 PM »
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 02:01:01 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on June 14, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2016, 01:46:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 01:28:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 14, 2016, 01:20:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:46:08 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2016, 11:41:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 14, 2016, 11:25:09 AM
This was predictable (and smart): [http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/cubs-brian-matusz-signs-minor-league-deal-with-cubs/]Cubs sign Matusz to minor league deal. [/url]
Career 27-42 record, and a 4.85 ERA.  

His career as a reliever: 3.47 ERA, 179-63 K:BB ratio. Lefties have hit just .211/.269/.358/.627 against him in his career. If he's healthy he could be a big upgrade as the LOOGY without them having to give up anything stupid for a guy like Miller.

I'd rather they just give up something stupid* and have Andrew Miller.

* This, obviously, shouldn't mean Baez or Schwarber, since that's well beyond stupid.

Agreed, I just don't know how much stock to put into Buster Olney's report that the Yankees basically aren't motivated to move him yet unless the return is that stupid. If we're talking Gleyber Torres or something, sign me up I guess.

They love Dan Vogelbach... Or at least I'd like to think they do

They have to love him more than they love Rob Refsnyder.

Actually they'd have to love him more than Greg Bird, their top first base prospect who put up an .871 OPS last year. I'm surprised you were unaware of this given your deep knowledge of the Yankee farm system and exactly what they are looking for in terms of their trade packages.

The same Greg Bird who is currently in pieces?
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